When / how did you learn that Ha Neul was adopted? I thought that his dad brought him in fron first marriage but…
The most recent example I can think of is when Youngchae confronts Hyera and tells her "my brother [Haneul] and I don't share a drop of blood" as a way to prove that she's the real Joo Younghae and Nansook has alluded to it a few times especially in the beginning when Haneul first comes back from abroad.
the man Kibeom was accused of killing was Haneul's bio dad - there was a flashback where a child Haneul visits Kibeom in jail and lashes out at him for a minute. It was said that Haneul begged Nansook to let him visit Kibeom in prison so she was in his life at that point
Youngchae's bio dad is dead (since Nansook claimed to have drowned him) At some point Nansook married Haneul's bio dad and Youngchae and Haneul became step siblings and Nansook became his step mom. Both Youngchae and Haneul have the same surname (Joo) but I think they just changed Youngchae's surname so they could look like one family [Korean women usually keep their last names even after marriage hence why Nansook is a Gong]
According to namuwiki, Haneul's bio dads name is Joo Sangcheol. His relation to Haneul is described as 친아버지 [biological father]. On Youngchae's page his relation to her is listed as 양아버지 [step-father]. There isn't anything about her father yet except his surname is Shin...
So... Haneul was adopted not in the "orphan from an orphanage" sense but rather because his bio dad got murdered so Nansook stepped up as his guardian as opposed to abandoning him
Giving this another shot because the screenwriter went on to write Suji & Uri, which I enjoyed. (I literally only dropped it because I got busy with school lol)
First of all SBS did the actors dirty with their cameras. I've never watched a drama before where I can get 8K views of the actors skin pores you can literally see the concealer on some of the actors as well... but now that we've gotten past that...
I know Yuna is supposed to be the villain but I actually relate to her??? 🥴 Jaekyung was wrong for giving money to Yuna's estranged mother and selling their house to give her money (which she gambled away).. Jaekyung probably doesn't realize but you don't enable an addiction!! That is the LAST thing you do if you want to help someone!
I also found found it wild that he was willing to send Yuna's mother money but leave Yuna to fend for herself as she studied in a foreign country. It was NYC but I know from my international student friends that the part time jobs one can get on a student visa are usually harsh and under the table... yeah I'd be pissed too.
He also prioritizes everyone else over her. Haneul, being their son is the only one where this makes sense but come on, the neighbors? Your wife is clearly uncomfortable with them (especially since one of them likes to make "jokes" about how she ruined her husband's career) but instead of supporting your wife when she leaves the scene you try to guilt trip her into going back up?
I'm not going to say he deserves to be cheated on but he's not a saint and I hope he treats Yeonhee better whenever they meet because Junho isn't shit. But like... if you prioritize everyone but your partner in a relationship, no shit, it's going to fail lol
Speaking of Yeonhee, she's your typical "poor FL who marries into a wealthy chaebol family" even down to being disrespected by her in-laws. There's nothing I have to say about her character right now - except Choi Jungyoon looked GREAT in the wedding dress when Yeonhee and Junho renewed their vows. Oh and her secretly going to noraebang to relieve stress is a big mood because same (although I live in the US, so my "noraebang" is my living room when I'm home alone lol)
Seo Woo is really dumb btw. I'm already aware of how her loveline ends (thanks namuwiki) but "dating" a guy for 10+ years and being okay with the fact that he hasn't kissed you once is CRAZY WORK... like you aren't going to question that? But like mother like daughter I guess, because it was established that Yeonhee never had a wedding.... nor in a 25 year relationship did Junho do the bare minimum of buying Yeonhee flowers...
Between chuseok and getting sick the week after I am FINALLY caught up on this...
The story scenario is wild to me because all Youngchae would have to do to prove herself is pull out a DNA test or a national ID. (I know this is a kdrama and logic doesn't apply here lol) But I do like how every character is either evil or morally gray. Crazy enough (because I usually end up liking the 2FLs the most) Haneul is actually my favorite character of the mains. I want to know more about his family....Since he was adopted.
I am also liking Han Ki Woong here too - his character is way better written than his character in woman in a veil (do not recommend btw lmao) Gong Nansook is clearly problematic but she's a fun villain ngl. I'm currently also watching Secret House and Brave Yong Sujeong where Lee Seungyeon also plays the evil mother type of character but her portrayal of Gong Nansook is way better. She reminds me of the theatrical chaebol villains like Chihwan from Meant to Be or the original Giyun from Elegant Empire. Especially Giyun! 💀
Words cannot describe to me how happy I am that Jeongwon isn't the typical "bright personality" type of lead. Shit there are no "bright personalities" in this show period (Semi for the time being, but I see her turning antagonistic towards Jeongwon in the future - the foreshadowing has begun) I am also surprised that Youngchae came back - I originally speculated that the original Youngchae would die and that was how Jeongwon became her but this is more interesting ... and ngl i kinda side with Youngchae in the sense that I get why she's pissed someone stole her life. But this plot just feels like a way to stretch the airtime out... Do you seriously think Gong Nansook, the "wolf of wall street" is going to let Youngchae ruin the scheme of the century 😭? So I say that to say that this plot is entertaining but i am MUCH more curious to see this mother daughter revenge play out. How will it get revealed that Jeongwon is the real Sua? The description makes it seem as though Jeongwon will find out before Hyera does... and I feel like we will be getting that reveal sooner than later. The pacing for this drama is good.
Kunhyang better be a fortune 500 company for all the lies being told to acquire it 🤣 With the model getting killed (which I'm glad about. And I hope Jeongwon's ex gets taken out soon because this storyline is starting to drag) things are only going to get crazier. Game of Witches had a very high body count for a daily drama and I feel like someone who is actually related to the main characters will die next. Jeongwon's dad? It would surely spearhead Jeongwon's revenge on Hyera. Especially since Mihyang has proven that she's pretty much Jeongwon's ride or die with this whole scheme lol
https://m.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202510220902551910&r=14 leads character info(Female protag, both male…
Here's what I got:
Yoon Seonwoo plays Kang Baekho, who is described as a "warm" lawyer. He meets Oh Jang-mi and falls in love with her. Park Geon-il plays Kang Jun-ho, a "prickly" chef, who also gets involved with Oh Jang-mi. They are brothers and are our male leads.
Kim Minseol is playing Jin Hongjoo, the female antagonist who works at the conglomerate and is described as "ambitious". She also has feelings for Kang Baekho so I'm expecting a rivalry with Jang-mi there...
I joked about coming up with a daily script with separated twins and revenge... these shows really all do sound…
Thank you for recommending good for you! As you know I am currently watching wife returns (Yookyung is THAT FL) and the promise is absolutely legendary!
I've never been so excited over a drama trailer in my life. I can't wait until November 6th, I've been anticipating this drama since it was first announced. This is 100% my type of story...
I have unmasked the woman in the veil because I have finished this drama!Just as expected, my opinion did not…
Honestly I have to agree with everything you're saying here!
You dropped the drama at a good point because after Serin dies is when the drama enters it's darkest point. by that I mean lowest quality. The guy playing Yeonseok is no Jeon Nomin or even the guy who played the evil CEO from Vengeance of a Bride so his "evil era" was very hard to watch. He should stick to "friendly" roles. The actor who plays Yunjin did a good job although I'm definitely enjoying him way more in a Graceful Liar and The Second Husband. Probably because those two have better writing. Although compared to WIAV, "the bar is in hell" as they say lol
I could enjoy Aera's antics because I'm a 2FL supremacist but I can easily see how people who don't like villainous characters could get turned off by it.
Choi Yoonyoung was good as Serin but after the switch ... I'm right there with you. Eventually she started irritating me lol there's only so many times you can say you're going to "make someone pay for their crimes" while not doing anything to make that happen.
I can't believe the screenwriter got fired, well actually I can lol. I hope they take a creative writing course in their free time... the drop in quality between this and MIAV (which didn't have half the plot holes that this one does) is so jarring it makes me wonder if MIAV was written by a ghostwriter or something lol
The controversies section on Namuwiki is crazy lol it's actually what inspired me to watch this again 😭 whoever gathered all of those is iconic
I joked about coming up with a daily script with separated twins and revenge... these shows really all do sound…
Tbh it's been a while since we've had a daily where the FL plays a set of twins - the promise with Lee Yuri (2016) comes to mind.
Marie and her 3 dads is a KBS1 daily and those are usually more sitcomish/family oriented than KBS2 & MBC dailies. I usually don't watch KBS1 dailies due to the lack of revenge lol although I kind of want to watch the new one because I am kind of curious about the three dads... lol
If anyone is curious there's some info out about the drama that is replacing this one - it's called the First Man. Ham Eunjung will be playing a set of twins and Oh Hyunkyung will be playing the 2FL! Eunjung did such a great job in Queen's House so I'll definitely be tuning in...
So I'm on episode 98/103. I'm not finished yet, but I'm reviewing it anyway because I don't think my opinion will…
I have unmasked the woman in the veil because I have finished this drama!
Just as expected, my opinion did not change ... But I added a half star because the scene where Aera confronts Namjoong was well acted and intense...
But now that I finished this I can safely say that this drama is full of plot holes. The lack of reaction after Serin gets murdered is the most obvious case. It's even more jarring for the court scenes because the judge glazes over it when reading out Yunjin's charges. Something else that I wonder is what about the real Aera (the girl who went by Hyunjung)? Is she still in the mental hospital? There was a ten year time skip, I sure hope she's still not locked up lol
Btw a 10 year time skip is crazy work (hands down the biggest post-storyline time skip I've seen) but I guess the narrative shot itself in the foot with that because Yunjin was sentenced 10 years and we HAD to get a scene of him watching Gyeoul and regretting it.
The sister reveal coming out at episode 102 out of episode 103. Didn't really impact the narrative and it felt unnecessary (like most of the "twists" in this drama) Especially as it showed how Hyunju became Gyeoul. Like seriously?
This drama would've been way better if it was pitched as for what it is, Aera getting revenge on YJ. Or if you absolutely had to have Gyeoul as the "FL", have Gyeoul marry back into the Nam family and get revenge that way OR, Serin could've married into the family and the two worked together to take them down that way.
Although I like the idea of Aera as the FL - she's a true revenge incarnate who only lives and dies for her revenge. Which is probably the only things besides OG!Serin that kept me watching.
Also what really annoyed me about the final scene with Gyeoul and Aera? The fact that Gyeoul really thinks Aera killed Hyuntae when it's been established that it was Yeonseok. Did the screenwriter forget this detail? After all, that's how Yeonseok ended up in jail in the first place, but whatever! Gyeoul is also very smug and self righteous for a revenge drama FL that doesn't really do anything, but I'm glad it's over and I can check Woman in a Veil off my list.
Here's a positive, this daily, for all it's flaws, probably has some of my favorite wall art in it (like set design). Ie ... I'm obsessed with the Jerry (from Tom & Jerry) pop art that's in Yunjin and Gyeoul's (and later Yunjin and Aera's) bedroom. Like I'm trying to ID it and hopefully hunt it down and buy one for my apartment because I like it that much.
But all in all, I don't recommend this daily. Justice for Serin 😭
the man Kibeom was accused of killing was Haneul's bio dad - there was a flashback where a child Haneul visits Kibeom in jail and lashes out at him for a minute. It was said that Haneul begged Nansook to let him visit Kibeom in prison so she was in his life at that point
Youngchae's bio dad is dead (since Nansook claimed to have drowned him)
At some point Nansook married Haneul's bio dad and Youngchae and Haneul became step siblings and Nansook became his step mom. Both Youngchae and Haneul have the same surname (Joo) but I think they just changed Youngchae's surname so they could look like one family [Korean women usually keep their last names even after marriage hence why Nansook is a Gong]
According to namuwiki, Haneul's bio dads name is Joo Sangcheol. His relation to Haneul is described as 친아버지 [biological father]. On Youngchae's page his relation to her is listed as 양아버지 [step-father]. There isn't anything about her father yet except his surname is Shin...
So... Haneul was adopted not in the "orphan from an orphanage" sense but rather because his bio dad got murdered so Nansook stepped up as his guardian as opposed to abandoning him
First of all SBS did the actors dirty with their cameras. I've never watched a drama before where I can get 8K views of the actors skin pores you can literally see the concealer on some of the actors as well... but now that we've gotten past that...
I know Yuna is supposed to be the villain but I actually relate to her??? 🥴 Jaekyung was wrong for giving money to Yuna's estranged mother and selling their house to give her money (which she gambled away).. Jaekyung probably doesn't realize but you don't enable an addiction!! That is the LAST thing you do if you want to help someone!
I also found found it wild that he was willing to send Yuna's mother money but leave Yuna to fend for herself as she studied in a foreign country. It was NYC but I know from my international student friends that the part time jobs one can get on a student visa are usually harsh and under the table... yeah I'd be pissed too.
He also prioritizes everyone else over her. Haneul, being their son is the only one where this makes sense but come on, the neighbors? Your wife is clearly uncomfortable with them (especially since one of them likes to make "jokes" about how she ruined her husband's career) but instead of supporting your wife when she leaves the scene you try to guilt trip her into going back up?
I'm not going to say he deserves to be cheated on but he's not a saint and I hope he treats Yeonhee better whenever they meet because Junho isn't shit. But like... if you prioritize everyone but your partner in a relationship, no shit, it's going to fail lol
Speaking of Yeonhee, she's your typical "poor FL who marries into a wealthy chaebol family" even down to being disrespected by her in-laws. There's nothing I have to say about her character right now - except Choi Jungyoon looked GREAT in the wedding dress when Yeonhee and Junho renewed their vows. Oh and her secretly going to noraebang to relieve stress is a big mood because same (although I live in the US, so my "noraebang" is my living room when I'm home alone lol)
Seo Woo is really dumb btw. I'm already aware of how her loveline ends (thanks namuwiki) but "dating" a guy for 10+ years and being okay with the fact that he hasn't kissed you once is CRAZY WORK... like you aren't going to question that? But like mother like daughter I guess, because it was established that Yeonhee never had a wedding.... nor in a 25 year relationship did Junho do the bare minimum of buying Yeonhee flowers...
So far, so good....
The story scenario is wild to me because all Youngchae would have to do to prove herself is pull out a DNA test or a national ID. (I know this is a kdrama and logic doesn't apply here lol) But I do like how every character is either evil or morally gray. Crazy enough (because I usually end up liking the 2FLs the most) Haneul is actually my favorite character of the mains. I want to know more about his family....Since he was adopted.
I am also liking Han Ki Woong here too - his character is way better written than his character in woman in a veil (do not recommend btw lmao) Gong Nansook is clearly problematic but she's a fun villain ngl. I'm currently also watching Secret House and Brave Yong Sujeong where Lee Seungyeon also plays the evil mother type of character but her portrayal of Gong Nansook is way better. She reminds me of the theatrical chaebol villains like Chihwan from Meant to Be or the original Giyun from Elegant Empire. Especially Giyun! 💀
Words cannot describe to me how happy I am that Jeongwon isn't the typical "bright personality" type of lead. Shit there are no "bright personalities" in this show period (Semi for the time being, but I see her turning antagonistic towards Jeongwon in the future - the foreshadowing has begun) I am also surprised that Youngchae came back - I originally speculated that the original Youngchae would die and that was how Jeongwon became her but this is more interesting ... and ngl i kinda side with Youngchae in the sense that I get why she's pissed someone stole her life. But this plot just feels like a way to stretch the airtime out... Do you seriously think Gong Nansook, the "wolf of wall street" is going to let Youngchae ruin the scheme of the century 😭? So I say that to say that this plot is entertaining but i am MUCH more curious to see this mother daughter revenge play out. How will it get revealed that Jeongwon is the real Sua? The description makes it seem as though Jeongwon will find out before Hyera does... and I feel like we will be getting that reveal sooner than later. The pacing for this drama is good.
Kunhyang better be a fortune 500 company for all the lies being told to acquire it 🤣 With the model getting killed (which I'm glad about. And I hope Jeongwon's ex gets taken out soon because this storyline is starting to drag) things are only going to get crazier. Game of Witches had a very high body count for a daily drama and I feel like someone who is actually related to the main characters will die next. Jeongwon's dad? It would surely spearhead Jeongwon's revenge on Hyera. Especially since Mihyang has proven that she's pretty much Jeongwon's ride or die with this whole scheme lol
Yoon Seonwoo plays Kang Baekho, who is described as a "warm" lawyer. He meets Oh Jang-mi and falls in love with her. Park Geon-il plays Kang Jun-ho, a "prickly" chef, who also gets involved with Oh Jang-mi. They are brothers and are our male leads.
Kim Minseol is playing Jin Hongjoo, the female antagonist who works at the conglomerate and is described as "ambitious". She also has feelings for Kang Baekho so I'm expecting a rivalry with Jang-mi there...
Love my dual twin roles in dramas 😭
I'm starting the webtoon tonight!
Should read the webtoon first or go in blind?
I'll be starting Marie and her three dads after work today!
Btw, sunny again tomorrow sounds interesting. Thanks for the recommendation!
You dropped the drama at a good point because after Serin dies is when the drama enters it's darkest point. by that I mean lowest quality. The guy playing Yeonseok is no Jeon Nomin or even the guy who played the evil CEO from Vengeance of a Bride so his "evil era" was very hard to watch. He should stick to "friendly" roles. The actor who plays Yunjin did a good job although I'm definitely enjoying him way more in a Graceful Liar and The Second Husband. Probably because those two have better writing. Although compared to WIAV, "the bar is in hell" as they say lol
I could enjoy Aera's antics because I'm a 2FL supremacist but I can easily see how people who don't like villainous characters could get turned off by it.
Choi Yoonyoung was good as Serin but after the switch ... I'm right there with you. Eventually she started irritating me lol there's only so many times you can say you're going to "make someone pay for their crimes" while not doing anything to make that happen.
I can't believe the screenwriter got fired, well actually I can lol. I hope they take a creative writing course in their free time... the drop in quality between this and MIAV (which didn't have half the plot holes that this one does) is so jarring it makes me wonder if MIAV was written by a ghostwriter or something lol
The controversies section on Namuwiki is crazy lol it's actually what inspired me to watch this again 😭 whoever gathered all of those is iconic
You're right that she'll have to work twice as hard but Eunjung can definitely pull it off. I'm so curious to see the contrast between the twins lol
Not to mention, info on the male leads (which doesn't seem to be out yet)
The writer is the same person who wrote third marriage/, the second husband and pink lipstick as well!
Marie and her 3 dads is a KBS1 daily and those are usually more sitcomish/family oriented than KBS2 & MBC dailies. I usually don't watch KBS1 dailies due to the lack of revenge lol although I kind of want to watch the new one because I am kind of curious about the three dads... lol
Source: https://www.soompi.com/article/1790486wpp/hahm-eun-jung-and-oh-hyun-kyung-confirmed-to-lead-new-revenge-daily-drama
Just as expected, my opinion did not change ... But I added a half star because the scene where Aera confronts Namjoong was well acted and intense...
But now that I finished this I can safely say that this drama is full of plot holes. The lack of reaction after Serin gets murdered is the most obvious case. It's even more jarring for the court scenes because the judge glazes over it when reading out Yunjin's charges. Something else that I wonder is what about the real Aera (the girl who went by Hyunjung)? Is she still in the mental hospital? There was a ten year time skip, I sure hope she's still not locked up lol
Btw a 10 year time skip is crazy work (hands down the biggest post-storyline time skip I've seen) but I guess the narrative shot itself in the foot with that because Yunjin was sentenced 10 years and we HAD to get a scene of him watching Gyeoul and regretting it.
The sister reveal coming out at episode 102 out of episode 103. Didn't really impact the narrative and it felt unnecessary (like most of the "twists" in this drama) Especially as it showed how Hyunju became Gyeoul. Like seriously?
This drama would've been way better if it was pitched as for what it is, Aera getting revenge on YJ. Or if you absolutely had to have Gyeoul as the "FL", have Gyeoul marry back into the Nam family and get revenge that way OR, Serin could've married into the family and the two worked together to take them down that way.
Although I like the idea of Aera as the FL - she's a true revenge incarnate who only lives and dies for her revenge. Which is probably the only things besides OG!Serin that kept me watching.
Also what really annoyed me about the final scene with Gyeoul and Aera? The fact that Gyeoul really thinks Aera killed Hyuntae when it's been established that it was Yeonseok. Did the screenwriter forget this detail? After all, that's how Yeonseok ended up in jail in the first place, but whatever! Gyeoul is also very smug and self righteous for a revenge drama FL that doesn't really do anything, but I'm glad it's over and I can check Woman in a Veil off my list.
Here's a positive, this daily, for all it's flaws, probably has some of my favorite wall art in it (like set design). Ie ... I'm obsessed with the Jerry (from Tom & Jerry) pop art that's in Yunjin and Gyeoul's (and later Yunjin and Aera's) bedroom. Like I'm trying to ID it and hopefully hunt it down and buy one for my apartment because I like it that much.
But all in all, I don't recommend this daily. Justice for Serin 😭