I am still shocked by the choices she gave Jun Ho- she wanted him to decide for her whether she should continue…
It seems that the prevailing opinion here is that Jangmi's marriage proposal was in bad taste/badly written. I really didn't like the whole "marry me if you think you can make me fall in love with you" thing because that's... Not how relationships work ๐ญ and it immediately soured me on Baekho and Jangmi's relationship.
Like first we had Junho talking about marrying Jangmi like he's going to force her (which annoyed me bc Junho was my favorite up until that point... It felt like character assassination lol) and now we have Jangmi doing ... whatever she's doing with Junho... While dating his brother. I guess the writer finds this kind of stuff romantic but I don't ๐ญ it just feels dated to me.
it would be great if Junho told Baekho about Jangmi's offer and they choose brotherhood and take down Hwayoung together... a girl can dream lol
I swear if Jangmi starts crying to Baekho about how much she loves him during that picnic scene I'm fast forwarding through lol
As for the marriage I think it will change the mood and not in a good way (for me) for starters Baekho will be sad, Junho will probably start overcompensating to win Jangmi. Hongju will become empowered to keep harassing Baekho ,(annoying viewers in the process) .... all while Hwayoung stays winning ๐ญ
Good points. I just hope the writer doesn't wait until episode 117 to address all of these lol. So much of this drama has been Hwayoung doing evil things and Jangmi just twiddling her thumbs and otherwise being indecisive lol
I fully believe Taepyung and Baekho will be the ones to find Seorin .... not Jangmi... they're the ones doing the heavy lifting anyway!
Originally I thought I would be a dahae shooter (still kinda am... not just anyone can go from poor orphan to first lady of SK ๐คฃ) but this drama's title is fitting because Dahae's ambition is something else. I'm enjoying her rise to power and watching her take down those in her way
I like Dokyung and Dohoon. Dohoon reminds me of a puppy and he's a nice break from the intensity and scheming going on lol meanwhile I am geeked because my theory about Dokyung was correct! ๐ญ I like Dokyung
Then Ms. Hong, Taebaek (?) and Samdo! Every revenge drama leads needs their wingmen and they do a great job lol. Haven't enjoyed seeing a wedding get disrupted this much since Ice Adonis.
Haryu has grown on me a lot as well especially after he became Jaewoong. He is giving revenge incarnate and I love it.
I'm on episode 13 so at the part where Haryu starts getting closer to the Baeks and I'm very much enjoying how the drama seems to be moving faster since episode 10.
I'm pouring one out for the real Jaewoong tho he didn't deserve to go out like that ๐ญ
The funniest thing about this drama's love triangle is that Jangmi is quite possibly the driest FL that I've seen in a while. The most unrealistic thing is that both brothers are pining for her... Also for someone who "loves" Baekho so much ... Jangmi keeps a A LOT of secrets from him but that's none of my business โ
I swear this would be so much more enjoyable if the brothers put this crap on the back burner and team up?? Like you have a lawyer at your disposal, Seorin's money, and Junho, being Hwayoung's son, is a loaded gun in the sense that he's Hwayoung's biggest weakness. We could get some real nasty schemes that could bring Hwayoung to her knees but the best thing Jangmi can think up after ~40 episodes is to marry Junho and "take him away from Hwayoung"? (And BTW she didn't think this up on her own! She only agreed to Hwayoung's demand after being strong armed into it because Hwayoung's people shook down the side dish shop!)
Can Seorin please wake up already lol
My eyes were rolling into the back of my head when Jangmi said "if you think you have the confidence to make me love you, then marry me" to Junho. I don't ever want to see her cry about hurting Baekho ever again after that. If you love someone you don't challenge someone else into making you want to chose them. Full stop ๐ญ
Well. I guess I'll be watching this as "the rise and fall of chae hwayoung" she's basically the main character who's actually doing things and making moves. All Jangmi is capable of doing is taking Ls and delivering monologues about how she's gonna get Hwayoung but fails to put her money where her mouth is. Every. Single. Time. Even her method of revenge (marrying Junho) is basically giving Hwayoung what she wants lol
I'm just here for whenever Seorin wakes up and for whatever scheme Baekho and Taepyung pull off next since they seem to be the only characters that got the memo that they're in a revenge drama lol. Taepyung has become a sleeper fave of mine in this drama (as well as Geumsoon!)
I won't mince words: tomorrow's episode looks LAME AF ๐คฎ Jangmi is an awful FL and sorry not sorry but I'm not at all invested in her facing the consequences of her stupid decisions. I don't even like Baekho like that but all this tip toeing around Baekho's feelings is PMO!!! He's 32 not 13 - he can handle more than you think!
Laura has potential to become a great villain lol Seri just wanted to cause trouble for the hell of it ๐ her pretending to be Jaein to solicit older men as a high school student for shits and giggles was crazy work ๐ญ
Yes! I thought she was just a comedic relief character but once she internally revealed that she's playing the long game of getting revenge on her brother?! I love to see it ๐ญ
I still donโt understand why itโs called First Man and the picture/shadow of a manโฆAny ideas?
This is a part of a "series" of daily dramas by Seo Hyunjoo (the writer) who has also written The Second Husband and The Third Marriage. The title is supposed to mimic that lol
As for who the first man is? I figure it's Seorin and Jangmi's bio dad, but right now it's hard to pinpoint who exactly the first man is lol
Today's episode felt like fodder for the shippers but for me (who's firmly on Team No One) the highlight was ... Hwayoung's steam stunt going awry and Junho being the unintended victim. lol judging by the preview I'm going to guess Jangmi is going to do a complete 180 on marrying Junho causing more unnecessary angst with Baekho lol. Then she will get revenge on Hwayoung by "taking Junho from her" lmfaooo please... can Seorin wake up soon because that sounds painful and completely disproportionate to Hwayoung's crimes.
Like oh... You stole my sister, gave my mother brain damage, and killed my step father? Not to mention Ssangkal? Jangmi really said bet ... let me marry your son ๐ญ yeah that'll show her ๐ (especially since Junho has a very transactional relationship with Hwayoung. You can't steal something that doesn't belong to someone else lol)
Nambong continues to frustrate the hell out of me like... him taking the moral high ground with Hwayoung is hilarious because he's still living a lie with Youngja and Baekho has an idea but doesn't know the full depth of the affair. And Junho is completely in the dark that his bio mom and step dad are currently getting down. All of that was for nothing tho because nambong is going to "act on his feelings" tomorrow ๐คฃ I just have to laugh because it seems like Youngja is finally going to find out .... it's been long overdue. (No seriously I thought nambong would've gotten exposed ages ago)
Nambong and Hwayoung deserve each other. I don't think I've ever seen a daily where the evil character throws another one under the bus and the latter is STILL in love with the evil character. Nambong redefines "down bad"... That's simplord supreme....
It's not just you- Jang Mi is not doing much for the revenge- she relies heavily on Baek Ho and Tae Pyung and…
Ok ok so it's not just me. The irony is Taepyung has grown on me a lot BECAUSE of his role in the revenge.
This is a problem with Seo Hyunjoo's (the writer) dramas imo I've said elsewhere that she's great at creating revenge worthy scenarios and excellent at throwing a love triangle in but when it comes to the FL executing the revenge that's where things start falling apart... bc she usually ends up relying way too much on the ML / other characters. The third marriage had the same issues and I had dropped it by this point however I like Eunjung and Junho's storyline with Hwayoung as well as Taepyung evolving into a revenge incarnate. So I'm invested lol
Hongju and Scamwol are pretty much the comedic relief characters atp just like everyone else in Jangmi's family sans Taepyung are used as bomdama ambassadors lol. With 38 episodes left they could become actual villains but I'm not holding my breath lol
I wonder if Baekho's adoption will be relevant to the plot. Junho is Hwayoung's son and I think her secretary is Junho's dad... so I wonder if Baekho's parents are going to show up... or if we already met them lol
Yup Dracula is so jun hoโs dad โฆ poor bastard ๐ โฆ. Watching her get the snot kicked out of her in jail…
I still have to watch episode 81 & 82 but I don't believe for a second she's actually going to cut them a deal and I hope at the end she gets sent back and gets jumped again for lying ๐ญ
Oh hell no @ Songah using the "you were warmest when Dad was alive" card to her mom because jeongok committed…
....and hyuna walked in on sena and gunwoo. I knew she was going to be the first casualty in the drama but I thought she would last a little longer than episode 5 ๐ญ
I hope this forces Songah's character development because Hyuna is actually the only character I like rn alongside Jeongok and Kangmin
Oh hell no @ Songah using the "you were warmest when Dad was alive" card to her mom because jeongok committed the crime of... Not ignoring the red flag of a man completely ghosting a parents meeting? If it were a true emergency (and we know it wasn't) he could've easily called Songah and at least tell her something came up.
Gunwoo makes Songah stupid! I'll probably like her better once she wakes up and realizes Gunwoo is in love with Sena ....
And why is Songah acting like she didn't benefit from Jeongok ranking high in the company lol kick her ungrateful ass out "you didn't have to do this (rise in the ranks of JH)" like okay then have fun living in poverty in hypercapitalistic South Korea because you're chasing a guy who's cheating on you ๐ญ
It's also very obvious that Gunwoo is only choosing Songah because of her family's money and status...
Like first we had Junho talking about marrying Jangmi like he's going to force her (which annoyed me bc Junho was my favorite up until that point... It felt like character assassination lol) and now we have Jangmi doing ... whatever she's doing with Junho... While dating his brother. I guess the writer finds this kind of stuff romantic but I don't ๐ญ it just feels dated to me.
it would be great if Junho told Baekho about Jangmi's offer and they choose brotherhood and take down Hwayoung together... a girl can dream lol
As for the marriage I think it will change the mood and not in a good way (for me) for starters Baekho will be sad, Junho will probably start overcompensating to win Jangmi. Hongju will become empowered to keep harassing Baekho ,(annoying viewers in the process) .... all while Hwayoung stays winning ๐ญ
I fully believe Taepyung and Baekho will be the ones to find Seorin .... not Jangmi... they're the ones doing the heavy lifting anyway!
We have 32 episodes left so I wonder too. Particularly I wonder how long until the wedding (if it actually happens, that is...)
I like Dokyung and Dohoon. Dohoon reminds me of a puppy and he's a nice break from the intensity and scheming going on lol meanwhile I am geeked because my theory about Dokyung was correct! ๐ญ I like Dokyung
Then Ms. Hong, Taebaek (?) and Samdo! Every revenge drama leads needs their wingmen and they do a great job lol. Haven't enjoyed seeing a wedding get disrupted this much since Ice Adonis.
Haryu has grown on me a lot as well especially after he became Jaewoong. He is giving revenge incarnate and I love it.
I'm on episode 13 so at the part where Haryu starts getting closer to the Baeks and I'm very much enjoying how the drama seems to be moving faster since episode 10.
I'm pouring one out for the real Jaewoong tho he didn't deserve to go out like that ๐ญ
I swear this would be so much more enjoyable if the brothers put this crap on the back burner and team up?? Like you have a lawyer at your disposal, Seorin's money, and Junho, being Hwayoung's son, is a loaded gun in the sense that he's Hwayoung's biggest weakness. We could get some real nasty schemes that could bring Hwayoung to her knees but the best thing Jangmi can think up after ~40 episodes is to marry Junho and "take him away from Hwayoung"? (And BTW she didn't think this up on her own! She only agreed to Hwayoung's demand after being strong armed into it because Hwayoung's people shook down the side dish shop!)
Can Seorin please wake up already lol
My eyes were rolling into the back of my head when Jangmi said "if you think you have the confidence to make me love you, then marry me" to Junho. I don't ever want to see her cry about hurting Baekho ever again after that. If you love someone you don't challenge someone else into making you want to chose them. Full stop ๐ญ
Well. I guess I'll be watching this as "the rise and fall of chae hwayoung" she's basically the main character who's actually doing things and making moves. All Jangmi is capable of doing is taking Ls and delivering monologues about how she's gonna get Hwayoung but fails to put her money where her mouth is. Every. Single. Time. Even her method of revenge (marrying Junho) is basically giving Hwayoung what she wants lol
I'm just here for whenever Seorin wakes up and for whatever scheme Baekho and Taepyung pull off next since they seem to be the only characters that got the memo that they're in a revenge drama lol. Taepyung has become a sleeper fave of mine in this drama (as well as Geumsoon!)
I won't mince words: tomorrow's episode looks LAME AF ๐คฎ Jangmi is an awful FL and sorry not sorry but I'm not at all invested in her facing the consequences of her stupid decisions. I don't even like Baekho like that but all this tip toeing around Baekho's feelings is PMO!!! He's 32 not 13 - he can handle more than you think!
As for who the first man is? I figure it's Seorin and Jangmi's bio dad, but right now it's hard to pinpoint who exactly the first man is lol
Like oh... You stole my sister, gave my mother brain damage, and killed my step father? Not to mention Ssangkal? Jangmi really said bet ... let me marry your son ๐ญ yeah that'll show her ๐ (especially since Junho has a very transactional relationship with Hwayoung. You can't steal something that doesn't belong to someone else lol)
Nambong continues to frustrate the hell out of me like... him taking the moral high ground with Hwayoung is hilarious because he's still living a lie with Youngja and Baekho has an idea but doesn't know the full depth of the affair. And Junho is completely in the dark that his bio mom and step dad are currently getting down. All of that was for nothing tho because nambong is going to "act on his feelings" tomorrow ๐คฃ I just have to laugh because it seems like Youngja is finally going to find out .... it's been long overdue. (No seriously I thought nambong would've gotten exposed ages ago)
Nambong and Hwayoung deserve each other. I don't think I've ever seen a daily where the evil character throws another one under the bus and the latter is STILL in love with the evil character. Nambong redefines "down bad"... That's simplord supreme....
This is a problem with Seo Hyunjoo's (the writer) dramas imo I've said elsewhere that she's great at creating revenge worthy scenarios and excellent at throwing a love triangle in but when it comes to the FL executing the revenge that's where things start falling apart... bc she usually ends up relying way too much on the ML / other characters. The third marriage had the same issues and I had dropped it by this point however I like Eunjung and Junho's storyline with Hwayoung as well as Taepyung evolving into a revenge incarnate. So I'm invested lol
Hongju and Scamwol are pretty much the comedic relief characters atp just like everyone else in Jangmi's family sans Taepyung are used as bomdama ambassadors lol. With 38 episodes left they could become actual villains but I'm not holding my breath lol
I wonder if Baekho's adoption will be relevant to the plot. Junho is Hwayoung's son and I think her secretary is Junho's dad... so I wonder if Baekho's parents are going to show up... or if we already met them lol
I hope this forces Songah's character development because Hyuna is actually the only character I like rn alongside Jeongok and Kangmin
Gunwoo makes Songah stupid! I'll probably like her better once she wakes up and realizes Gunwoo is in love with Sena ....
And why is Songah acting like she didn't benefit from Jeongok ranking high in the company lol kick her ungrateful ass out "you didn't have to do this (rise in the ranks of JH)" like okay then have fun living in poverty in hypercapitalistic South Korea because you're chasing a guy who's cheating on you ๐ญ
It's also very obvious that Gunwoo is only choosing Songah because of her family's money and status...
She doesn't know the real reason but Gunwoo skipped out on a parents meeting because Sena staged an ER visit? Oh he's DOWN BAD.