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We cannot control what people think or what they post on the internet. So if we're too easily affected by people being negative about the things we like the best thing is to just avoid reading those comments. Our mental health comes first, always.

Your second paragraph is spot on. BUT in the midst of all the cliches and stupid tropes, Akk and Ayan still have quite a few touching moments (and the actors do great with both). But you said in your initial comment that you don't even watch their scenes, so you probably missed them.

He might be. He overheard the convo between Chadok and Akk in which Chadok talked about Ayan and then later he gave that "i'm supporting you" talk to Akk. I do wonder tho if he knows Akk is in love with Ayan.

The team behind the show already confirmed that there's no sad ending in this so people are probably just assuming from how complicated the characters/romance seem to be atm.

The views on youtube are weak and as far as I could tell, it used to trend high on twitter only when there was a big cameo (tay tawan, mix etc). So I guess it kinda flopped considering the amount of sponsors and money invested in it. The Eclipse with its embarrassing budget is doing way better on youtube and it's actually geoblocked in Thailand.

Akk definitely needs to have a breakdown (and I truly truly hope the show doesn't disappoint with this) and I think Ayan being mentally unwell (which was even more evidenced in that scene with his mom) will impact on his development and make him face his fears in the name of love and of his own happiness. I might be tripping, but I think whatever happened with Dika and Chadok in the past is a mirror or what is happening with Ayan and Akk now. We know how that story ended, but this time someone will have to take action and make it end differently. That someone has to be Akk, cuz he's the hero of this story (even if he's not looking like one atm).

I think it's a lot easier for people to just sympathize with Ayan because he is the one with the best intentions towards Akk, but watching the episode I couldn't help putting myself in Akk's shoes too because boy has been under a LOT of pressure from all sides and Ayan has been quite insistent towards him, wanting for him to be true to himself about his feelings. It's not easy at all. It's natural for Akk to be annoyed by Ayan (I know I'd be). It's just that we want the romance to happen and it's Akk who's keeping it from happening so it's natural to dislike Akk. I haven't been excited about the pacing of the story for Akk and Ayan and I feel like I've lost a lot of interest, but Akk is still a great character (even if he's mostly unlikable).

I can empathize with Akk when I watch the scenes of him with Chadok. You can see the drive Chadok has over him and it's understandable that he'd get so scared of doing anything wrong and disappointing Chadok --in the process, disappointing his family and everyone else. Akk has been losing control. The problem is that his character never overcomes that. If what's happening now was happening in, say, episode 5, it would be more acceptable. But we're in episode 8 out of 12 and he's still SO deep in fear, denial and repression towards literally anything (especially Ayan)?? It gets boring fast. And it would be one thing if they had shown Akk and Ayan having an actual romance before Akk took 5 steps back now, but they didn't. Akk has always been combative of Ayan with just little glimpses of improvement thrown in between their interactions. Staring into each other's eyes for 10 seconds in several scenes is not romance.

That's why I think the kiss in episode 6 could've been real. To show us that Akk *can* break and fall to his temptations. Then, after that happened, he would recoil and it would be understandable because he would've given himself to Ayan that one time. The way it was, he just *thought* of the possibility of giving himself to Ayan and that alone already made him recoil and turn back into the Akk he was in the beginning of the series. The story runs in circles. The scenes they had in this episode wouldn't be out of place in episode 3. It's just so frustrating to watch. Even more seeing how Ayan has become this insistent borderline clueless guy who cannot seem to accept that Akk, more than not being able, is just not willing to change.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the classic gmmtv writing style. Drag the main couple's storyline for several episodes in the middle and just let them get together around episode 10. Then break them up with a big (sometimes not that big, just dumb) conflict in episode 11, and reunite in episode 12. That trope, most of the time, neglects proper character development, so it's just not very satisfying all around. It's sadder in this series cuz Akk has been a very interesting character since day 1. But I guess he will probably end up as a truly unlikable lead in the end (I always found his character "unlikable" in his essence, but I was hoping his growth would be more gradual (which would imply that by episode 8, he would ignite better reactions from us... guess not)).

After shows like Bad Buddy and Not Me showed that you can have a gmmtv BL with the pairing getting together in the middle and it working, I truly thought they would move forward and write more stories like this. Unfortunately gmmtv just never truly evolves and this show is another victim of that. Hope First and Khaotung (together or separately) get a better BL script in the future.

I lost interest after last week, when they took the amazing opportunity of development created by the amazing kiss at the end of episode 6 and threw it in the trashbin. (Don't tell me that the kiss being an imagination is better than it being real, I get that point, but I don't necessarily agree).

how do you film a scene THAT beautiful just to brush it off as imagination afterwards? my mind is blown --in a very angry way.

Exactly!!!

Would you believe it if I told you that just today I read someone saying that "FirstKhao just doesn't work on screen"?

it gets better from episode 2 onwards!

Enchante, Cupid's Last Wish, Star in My Mind, Sky in Your Heart, Vice Versa, The Eclipse. Plus several non-BL series like Astrophile, Mama Gogo, PS I Hate You... They've produced a LOT of series so far.

The mock trailer for Midnight Chicken didn't really imply any relationship between their characters --in fact, they showed another side pairing there--, but it can change as they're developing the series and I hope it does. I think that was what happened with DanYok in Not Me. They weren't really meant to be a couple in the first idealization of the series but the director liked the chemistry between the actors and decided to make them one. I could be talking nonsense tho lol, but that's what I read.

Right. But are the comments here that inaccurate with how the show has been presented? TessTun were more captivating when they were on screen because 1. they're Ohm and Nanon, so even if we brush aside the Bad Buddy nostalgia, they're leagues above Jimmy and Sea acting wise (which makes sense, since they're experienced) and with one stare they had the chemistry that JimmySea just don't have and 2. their characters had a previous connection that was mysterious enough to ignite more interest from the audience than whatever was going on for Talay and Puen, characters we didn't know much about. It makes sense that people were drawn to that at first, even if it does indeed feel like a rehash of Bad Buddy's motif. Moving on from that, the show just doesn't do a lot to lead us into the main characters. They're like a blank canvas, even until this point in the story. Too little personality and charm. The show looks good, but it lacks substance. The scifi aspect was brushed aside for basic fanservice and there's no sense for urgency and tension, the things you'd expect the most from a show that involves two characters that switched bodies with people from a whole other universe!! A story like this demands adrenaline and this show has none of that. Why are these guys trying to make a movie??Even if the story picks up from now on, I still think it's a bit too late, considering they didn't even do the basic job that was giving the mains some solid characterization. I hate to compare and I don't even think The Eclipse is anywhere near a perfect show, but if you take a look at it, it becomes soooo clear what a show with solid characters looks like in contrast to this one, that has very bland ones. kisskh is indeed harsh, but I think there's been several valid points people have written about Vice Versa. Let's not mistake constructive criticism for hate.

The reception for The Eclipse seems very positive tho? Even here on MDL where people are usually a bit too harsh with shows.

I think the "fixing" parallel was not that Vee was supposed to fix himself, but fix the situation with Mark instead. He thought the scooter was ruined forever and that buying a new one was better, but his father convinced him that fixing it was still good and the same, in this case, applies to his relationship with Mark. The point is that he shouldn't give up.

Honestly while it was never anything special, I could say I was enjoying the series for what it was. But when they made Prince being a damsel in distress that needs a man taking care of him all the time the main conflict it all went downhill. Ridiculous. How dare Fah have a job and not be able to take care of poor fragile Prince! Come on. And then the Sincere guy comes up like "oh I can take care of Prince, unlike you that has patients to take care of". Wow congrats you have no life other than being obsessed with a man, I guess! The characters are full grown adults, yet the show acts like they're teenagers. If you want to deliver a story with adults, then make the characters act like adults. It was still better than Star in My Mind tho.

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