Hae Jun was fine that Yoon Jae contributed less financially while dating but after marriage on her honeymoon,…
this haejung's side was also already there before marriage. she has always been very selfish and immature. before marriage she wasn't directly facing the consequences of yj's debts. I guess she didn't thought this totally. this is just striking her right now.
the scarf proposal: good job as usual hyungjae! I really loved the fact that he expressed his feelings one or two nights before, being sure that mirae was on the same pace with her feelings too. he made his proposal after work, a huge trial which exhausted him. that means even tired with work he put all his effort on mirae. he organized a fun date with many occupations and had fun with her before asking anything. even after that I was anxious mirae would say no because of her past experiences. I am so happy they are now engaged!
the false pregnancy: you cannot know if you are not told so, but if you need to be sure, you must buy at least 3 tests, from 3 different companies. if you have 3 same results then it's very unlikely to be wrong. 1 test can be false, 2 tests it's really like you have bad luck, 3 tests it's almost impossible.
"don't tell anyone before the blood test": yeah... and I would say even before the first 2 months. yoonjae makes mistakes only 20 yo men do. there is really a lot of immaturity in the 1st son's couple! the credit card thing: I understand YJae. I think anybody would have some money issue after 1 month of rushed wedding. the issue is there, they had to pay for everything in 1 month. HaeJ was being harsh with YJ. "I won't say more because it's bad for the baby": yeah but it's bad for you too, first of all, madam!
this being said, KAe dreamed about 2 peaches. perhaps it was about the 2 weddings (it's possible), but perhaps there is 2 babies coming. I haven't given up about yuna's probable pregnancy. things getting hotter in the last son's ex-couple: neither yuna nor sjae seems to get over the brake up.
I stopped watching this around episode 20 because life got busy. Is it worth picking back up again? How have the…
if the pace is too low, I pass 30sec from time to time. I could not watch some dramas without this trick. in my opinion this one is ok, but we are all different.
HJae: "of course I'll be good to you mom!" YJae: "what do you mean you will be good to mom? do you think you'll be better than me?" he is already better than you! how can you even raise your voice when you are running away from your promised wife and your parents and asking for a shelter in the house of your YOUNGER brother?!!!
HaeJ: "here he is, dolt again! shouldn't he call me after an argument? yes! there was a cancellation and we can be married at the end of the month!" only stupid people think like that! you are in the middle of an argument with your fiance, he didn't call you back and you even had an argument with the 2 families! if I was you, I would be wondering if this marriage is a good idea. because you are marrying a dolt, and he will be a dolt until the last day. people don't change their personality, on the contrary, they tend to worsen while aging.
don't agree at all, i'm glad she was honest with herself and she seems to have no regrets after time passes and…
I don't agree with you, and here is why: when you experience that kind of scene: ep11, min34, sec10; that means you no longer feel love or anything else, but trauma. this is trauma bonding, and when it happens in a relationship, it means this relationship has become unhealthy, toxic.
when you are young, you tend to mistake trauma bonding with love. but when growing up, from the moment you meditate enough about yourself, you can understand that anytime you reacted like yumi, you lost a lot afterwards. a lot!
proof is, love cell quit at this time. it wasn't love answer, it was sensitivity answer. and you cannot take good decision when listening to your sensitivity. you'll take coward decision, because sensitivity is a coward personality.
if she was being truthful to herself, she would have feel that her love for babi was gone. and yumi is 30 yo at least, she should be mature enough to know her own self that much. trauma bonding is devastating in younger population. you must understand it and get rid of it as fast as possible. to a man who makes me cry, I say goodbye no matter how nice the relationship is (or seems to be).
I am a little disappointed about babi... he put the house for sell and wants to move out just because of the intern family living close? really? I wasn't anxious about that before he did so, now I am disappointed. you cannot run away from temptation. temptation is never outside but inside oneself. if your only shield is to fly away that means you have no control on your own life and no control over your emotions. that means, you are a player. if one day you have no way out of uncomfortable situation, this day you will fall. so, babi isn't perfect after all.
At the risk of offending some, I won’t try to excuse the Dolt’s behavior but I’d like to offer an explanation…
hi drama fan! this lead me to understand an other common trait between you and HaeJ: you two take things way too far! the risk is, when trying too much, you are going to ruin everything.
my favorite dramas are the ones depicting strong women. and HaeJ is not strong at all. she is an immature and frightened little girl. and all her bad behaviors and errors come from that: she is afraid of being rejected, she is afraid of being criticize, and that's why she lies and manipulates so much the people around her. just saying.
for the rest, I like your passion. I am the passionate kind too, and you beat me on this. it's nice reading how hard you back up your favorites characters. <3
It’s very clear that you don’t like her; but to be honest this example you’re using is not quite black and…
I watched the scene again, and you are right, YJae agreed, even suggested something similar. if other readers want to check, it's the beginning of episode 12. but that's still not enough to justify the way she presented the situation to her in law. that's my point of view.
while searching for this scene I came up with another one where she lied again and manipulate the truth in order to look better than she is... again. episode 16, 41min05sec. in the scene HJae tells something very meaningful about HaeJ: YOU ONLY COUGH UP THE TRUTH WHEN CONFRONTED. which means, he knows her very well!
the truth is: 1- she was jealous because she was in love with YJae and was afraid he could find an other (better) partner on the TV show. 2- she was offered a spot on the dating show as well. but she didn't want to go because she wanted YJae.
and see by yourself HOW she manipulate HJae and pressure him not to reveal the truth to others.
@deidra Thanks for pointing out that it was HaeJun who suggested the casual dating,, I've forgotten. I've seen…
thank you! I learned how to spot a narcissistic person and I am very happy I spotted her despite her so called "sympathetic" personality. I don't know where this is going though. because I am quite sure the writer didn't create this on purpose. if the writer's intention is to model the 1st son's couple as a perfect one, it's a big fail. if this is on purpose, that means there will be only 1 marriage at the end of the show: HJae and MRae's one.
It’s very clear that you don’t like her; but to be honest this example you’re using is not quite black and…
I understand your feelings: you like her. BUT liking doesn't mean you have to indulge everything or most things. SHE DID ASK, NOT HIM.
my point is: if she had done that with me, I would have been mad and disappointed. if my lover did that to me, badmouth me before my own parents, I would be very disappointed, and certainly reconsider the marriage. being honest and telling the ugly true is something irreplaceable, FOR ME.
I can understand that my priorities are not yours, but she did lie in order to win the mother in law's affection. you can say that's not a big deal, but when you see KAe's reaction, when she heard about that, YOU KNOW that's a big deal. even HJae, the middle brother, was chocked when his brother told him.
so, your choice, my choice, let's agree to disagree.
I’m so sick of Mi Rae /Hyung Jae couple and their family dramas.
I love MRae and HJae. and I hate what everybody is throwing at them, expecting them to solve every one else's problems...
HJae has become my new male model for romantic relationships. I won't compromise for anything less than that from now on. I am very thankful to the writer of this show for that!
I really loved the fact that he expressed his feelings one or two nights before, being sure that mirae was on the same pace with her feelings too.
he made his proposal after work, a huge trial which exhausted him. that means even tired with work he put all his effort on mirae.
he organized a fun date with many occupations and had fun with her before asking anything.
even after that I was anxious mirae would say no because of her past experiences. I am so happy they are now engaged!
the false pregnancy: you cannot know if you are not told so, but if you need to be sure, you must buy at least 3 tests, from 3 different companies. if you have 3 same results then it's very unlikely to be wrong. 1 test can be false, 2 tests it's really like you have bad luck, 3 tests it's almost impossible.
"don't tell anyone before the blood test": yeah... and I would say even before the first 2 months. yoonjae makes mistakes only 20 yo men do. there is really a lot of immaturity in the 1st son's couple!
the credit card thing: I understand YJae. I think anybody would have some money issue after 1 month of rushed wedding. the issue is there, they had to pay for everything in 1 month. HaeJ was being harsh with YJ.
"I won't say more because it's bad for the baby": yeah but it's bad for you too, first of all, madam!
this being said, KAe dreamed about 2 peaches. perhaps it was about the 2 weddings (it's possible), but perhaps there is 2 babies coming. I haven't given up about yuna's probable pregnancy. things getting hotter in the last son's ex-couple: neither yuna nor sjae seems to get over the brake up.
HJae: "of course I'll be good to you mom!"
YJae: "what do you mean you will be good to mom? do you think you'll be better than me?"
he is already better than you! how can you even raise your voice when you are running away from your promised wife and your parents and asking for a shelter in the house of your YOUNGER brother?!!!
HaeJ: "here he is, dolt again! shouldn't he call me after an argument? yes! there was a cancellation and we can be married at the end of the month!"
only stupid people think like that! you are in the middle of an argument with your fiance, he didn't call you back and you even had an argument with the 2 families! if I was you, I would be wondering if this marriage is a good idea. because you are marrying a dolt, and he will be a dolt until the last day. people don't change their personality, on the contrary, they tend to worsen while aging.
ladies and gentlemen, the 1st son's couple!
when you experience that kind of scene: ep11, min34, sec10; that means you no longer feel love or anything else, but trauma. this is trauma bonding, and when it happens in a relationship, it means this relationship has become unhealthy, toxic.
when you are young, you tend to mistake trauma bonding with love. but when growing up, from the moment you meditate enough about yourself, you can understand that anytime you reacted like yumi, you lost a lot afterwards. a lot!
proof is, love cell quit at this time. it wasn't love answer, it was sensitivity answer. and you cannot take good decision when listening to your sensitivity. you'll take coward decision, because sensitivity is a coward personality.
if she was being truthful to herself, she would have feel that her love for babi was gone. and yumi is 30 yo at least, she should be mature enough to know her own self that much. trauma bonding is devastating in younger population. you must understand it and get rid of it as fast as possible. to a man who makes me cry, I say goodbye no matter how nice the relationship is (or seems to be).
I am a little disappointed about babi... he put the house for sell and wants to move out just because of the intern family living close? really?
I wasn't anxious about that before he did so, now I am disappointed. you cannot run away from temptation. temptation is never outside but inside oneself. if your only shield is to fly away that means you have no control on your own life and no control over your emotions. that means, you are a player. if one day you have no way out of uncomfortable situation, this day you will fall. so, babi isn't perfect after all.
this lead me to understand an other common trait between you and HaeJ: you two take things way too far! the risk is, when trying too much, you are going to ruin everything.
my favorite dramas are the ones depicting strong women. and HaeJ is not strong at all. she is an immature and frightened little girl. and all her bad behaviors and errors come from that: she is afraid of being rejected, she is afraid of being criticize, and that's why she lies and manipulates so much the people around her.
just saying.
for the rest, I like your passion. I am the passionate kind too, and you beat me on this. it's nice reading how hard you back up your favorites characters. <3
while searching for this scene I came up with another one where she lied again and manipulate the truth in order to look better than she is... again. episode 16, 41min05sec.
in the scene HJae tells something very meaningful about HaeJ: YOU ONLY COUGH UP THE TRUTH WHEN CONFRONTED.
which means, he knows her very well!
the truth is:
1- she was jealous because she was in love with YJae and was afraid he could find an other (better) partner on the TV show.
2- she was offered a spot on the dating show as well. but she didn't want to go because she wanted YJae.
and see by yourself HOW she manipulate HJae and pressure him not to reveal the truth to others.
I learned how to spot a narcissistic person and I am very happy I spotted her despite her so called "sympathetic" personality. I don't know where this is going though. because I am quite sure the writer didn't create this on purpose. if the writer's intention is to model the 1st son's couple as a perfect one, it's a big fail. if this is on purpose, that means there will be only 1 marriage at the end of the show: HJae and MRae's one.
SHE DID ASK, NOT HIM.
my point is: if she had done that with me, I would have been mad and disappointed. if my lover did that to me, badmouth me before my own parents, I would be very disappointed, and certainly reconsider the marriage. being honest and telling the ugly true is something irreplaceable, FOR ME.
I can understand that my priorities are not yours, but she did lie in order to win the mother in law's affection. you can say that's not a big deal, but when you see KAe's reaction, when she heard about that, YOU KNOW that's a big deal. even HJae, the middle brother, was chocked when his brother told him.
so, your choice, my choice, let's agree to disagree.
HJae has become my new male model for romantic relationships. I won't compromise for anything less than that from now on. I am very thankful to the writer of this show for that!