Niina no Papa

Like I said a few times, in his mind, that house was hers long before he even brought her there. If you noticed, he never once said she would never live in that house, he said the woman he marries will live in the house and because she will love him and he will love her till the end. Even though she hated him, and ep8 shows that because she never denied that she hated him when the director said as to her hating her ex, he still so loved and so longed and so wants her back, and that's why that house can be nobody else's but her's...

Gaga, you are so right, communication is the major key to any relationship, and that was their huge mistake as you said, I am in so agreement with that. Them both so needed the rooftop scene, now hopefully we'll get to see more of them communicating. I was so glad to see him wait and come get her at the restaurant to take with him to see his father. As much as he was hurting, he knew how much his father loved her and how much she loved his father, I so commended him for doing that, but I think now they're well on their way to patching things up and communicating.

I don't see where he's sorry, it's her that's showing regret and is sorry.

I'm not hating her, I love her, that's why I want to see her get rid of that shallow and despicable attitude ShameOnMe2... As to arrogant, no, that is all wrong, for one, he has no idea as to the miscarriage, two, she's the one that made him starve, kicked him out, then ultimately divorcing him, I'm so on his side, he shouldn't nor does he need to thank her, only thing he needs to do is sincerely apologize for quitting his job. Why should he be thanking her for? She was the one screaming at him to drop all other projects and demanding he make a text free project. I'm sorry, if she did that to me, I'd be too bad too sad for you, I'm not thanking you. Oh, I'm sorry, he does have one thing to thank her for, that is the divorce, as much as it hurt him, because of the divorce he's now where he is today.

I didn't say she loved him only for the money, but if she truly 100% had real true love for him, she would have stood by him no matter how long it took him to succeed. It is the man's responsible to support his wife, I don't deny that, I'm 100% for the man to support his wife, and that's the way it should be, but that was no reason for her to do what she did to him, all she saw was her father and brother, that's all she saw, deadbeats. I've seen women doing much harder jobs than her while pregnant. My first wife liked money and even though we were doing fine, she went out and got 3 different jobs at the same time, she ended up getting pregnant while working those jobs, and even though I pleaded with her to at least quit 2 of them she worked all 3 till a week before our son was born. It showed her working different jobs, but they were never all at the same time from what I saw. If so, then yes, not all women are built the same so if so, I would blame her miscarriages on working so many jobs all at the same time, but I don't believe that was the case, she was working the one job outside selling winter coats at the time of the miscarriage. The stress of him not providing and not making money is what probably brought the miscarriage on. Stress is a cruel, mean and evil thing.

I'm saying Ae Ra needs to wake up as to her attitude toward her Cha Jyung Woo. You are right about the sister except for the fact she told her the truth in a way to make her realize how petty she's being. And it's true, she doesn't start going after Jyung Woo until she finds out how rich he is. Ae Ra needed to hear all of that, harsh as it was.

Kook Yeo-Jin has reverted back to her phony self like in eps 1-4... I'm not liking or feeling sorry for her anymore, she's going to end up being mean to her, already has started. The writers so screwed up by having her kick Ae Ra out of the room and him waking up without her being there. I had tears over that one, shame on the writers for that one.

Yes she now knows, you are so right, and I think she put a stop to that after the funeral when she tells him off, when going to the car. Just my take on them.

Yeah, I was thinking the director and Myungsoo, but you could very well be right. Personally I don't think her sunbae deserves to be with anyone for the way she treats Ae Ra... When I worked in Japan, I had the same experience, because I was the 3rd highest paid employee, next to the Owner and Vice President, I really got picked on something fierce, so yes, I fully understand what she's going through, it's just sheer pettiness. And to think money isn't even involved, just because she had dinner the CEO and was recognized, no, her sunbae doesn't deserve anyone... At least someone nice...

Should he have quit his job? Yes and no, I strongly believe she only wanted him in a steady job, and her actions with her friends at the restaurant with her friends clearly show that by the way she was cutting her friend up who's husband had his own business, so she would have reacted the same way and would have gotten angry just at the idea of him thinking of quitting his job. Yes he could have gone after his dream part-time in his free time, but there again, she wouldn't have allowed that because it would have taken time away from her. Like I said she wanted a life of money and cushion, she wasn't looking at the larger picture. No, he had to quit his job to chase after the dream his father so advised and supported him on, he wouldn't have been able to get as far as he did, yes he had help from our 2nd leads' father, but he wouldn't have been where he is today if he hadn't quit his job. NAR had to look at the much larger picture. In all honesty, I hold her mother 100% responsible for the ludicrous, shallow, despicable, and stupid advice she implanted into NAR's mind, she's so to blame for everything that happened to CJW and NAR. I will say, I really felt sorry for NAR after she found out and realized it was on account of her that his father collapsed. If you disagree with that, who divorced who?

I agree in that a man should take care of his family, and even though he quit his job, he was still trying to do his utmost best to provide. All she saw was her deadbeat father and brother and that is what I think drove her to do all the terrible things, such as starving him, kicking him out, ultimately divorcing him, then all the petty revenges. It all started long before the miscarriage. In the beginning when Adam and Eve partook of the fruit they weren't supposed to even touch, God cursed the man to work, not the woman. I am so in agreement with you in that, yes, the man should do his best to provide, but, he was not even close to how her father and brother were. At least he was doing his best. I don't know how you could even think CJW was thoughtless and careless, he wanted a much better life for both of them. God didn't tell the woman to go out and work because He created Eve like you said, it is devastating to the female body. NAR is not destined to be with GSH, and you saw that by ep8. He's nice and supportive, but I don't think he could ever love her so lovingly the way CJW did, and still does. GSH I believe will end up with her best friend, I'm only guessing at that. I mostly agree with everything you just said except for him being thoughtless and careless. That thought never even entered his mind

He didn't know, she didn't want him around nor to see him, give it up already, and the several jobs she worked, they weren't several jobs at once, I've seen this beginning to be dumb drama on account of people not watching and pay attention to it, 5 times to know what I'm talking about. As to my cousin, many, MANY couples work, not just the man, you're a real feminist and I absolutely abhor, hate, despise and so look down on feminist for they're way of thinking. I love Ae Ra, if I didn't I wouldn't be wanting to see a beautiful Ae Ra come out of this, you just plain bash men for the fun of it... And for that, SHAME ON YOU!!!

If she hadn't kicked him out, after the miscarriage he would have been lovingly by her side doing everything he could for her, 100% doting on her, but she wouldn't let him close to her one bit.

I so agree with you, communication IS the key, and the rooftop was the first time they seriously communicated and let their feelings out. I agree with you again in that he would have quit what he did and went to find a job. His father was in full support of him trying to work his dream. That was a huge wake up call for her finding out his father collapsed because of the divorce. He so loved her so much the father did, she was another daughter to him. I feel that our 2nd male lead is going to end up with Ae Ra's best friend, but I was thinking his secretary would end up with the director, the 2nd female lead. Her sunbae doesn't deserve to be with anyone nice, she's just not a nice person. I think ep 8 was the most powerful and impactful ep thus far, and I think it's the tipping of the scale as to the two of them now starting work things through, at least I'm hoping so, we're beginning to see the true Ae Ra coming out now, she attitude is now being peeled away, especially after his sister telling her off and giving her the truth of the matter.

She kicked him out so how on earth could he see anything when she wouldn't let him near her? Clean out your eyes and watch it over again.

If you are thinking that way, like I told one lady already, I'm so glad I'm not married to you. There are thousand's of women who support and love their unemployed husbands and don't divorce or treat them the way Ae Ra treated her husband BEFORE the miscarriage. Like I said before as well, her jobs weren't so hard to cause a miscarriage, my cousin had a much harder job, worked in a factory, had 4 miscarriages before finally having 3 wonderful kids, and her hubby was without work all 4 times, did she leave him? No. Ae Ra was treating him badly long before the miscarriage, so can't use that excuse on me, I feel most terribly for her for the loss of their baby, but to do what she did and to hate him for it? Shame, shallow, and despicable. Is everyone forgetting she was treating him badly before the miscarriage? HELLO!!!!!!!!! He was working just as hard as she was to find investors, if not harder. Poor woe is me.... :'( I never once said he's not perfect.

Yes, I don't deny she loved him, but only to the point of him bringing income into the house. Was it the 7th episode when he tells her he quit his job, she right away thinks of her father and brother? No, I am so against what she did and her attitude right from the beginning even before they get married. It is her ATTITUDE that is shallow and despicable, once she gets rid of and sheds that attitude, we'll see a new and improved Ae Ra like I said, just like, R1N7B, Smile, You, we'll see Jung In, then money won't matter, he could go broke and it won't matter to her because now she will love him for HIM, not for COMFORT or MONEY. I so disagree as to her loving him sincerely, she loved him only as long as he brought the money in. Please watch it again and watch it closely. They both failed to notice, I agree, but that still doesn't change the fact of her shallow, despicable, all about appearance attitude.

R1N7B, she hasn't been making a move because for her, it's been all about revenge thus far through to ep6. Like our 2nd lead said, it's been hate hate HATE for him because of him quitting his job. I never once said he not to blame, I have already said, the ONLY thing he's at fault for is quitting his job without discussing it first. That is so not a reason for her actions starting from making him starve. Women go so over and hold on to such petty, piddly stuff, it's horrible. I don't look down on women, I hate women and have HUGE trust issues with women, but don't look down on them. I just see it as it is. Her jobs weren't that hard, thousand's of women work so much harder jobs, so to say she lost the miscarriage because of working and while pregnant, you're so wrong there. He was so unaware of what was happening because she wouldn't let him come around.
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Most definitely not because I'm a guy, if the roles were switched, I'd most definitely be 100% for her. My mother, my cousin, and my grandmother all had miscarriages, my grandmother had 13 of them, so from what I've been told by them, your emotions are very high, when Ae Ra had it, she'd already kicked him out, but it's like you've already had your baby and it's died, very similar to a still born as well, it's a huge loss. What she did with the lily's WAS EVIL, she so didn't need to play with his health, that was so underhanded and SO uncalled for, she was just plain nasty for that one alone. Vegso, READ the synopsis and the title, watch the first episode again, she was about appearance and money. He wasn't all about a career or to be super rich, he was all about how to better support her, he had a dream, and that dream was to better their lives.

I agree it was a very good episode, like you, I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED episode too, an episode to wake her up something fierce, and yes I still say she's been the bad person as you put it for everything she did to him, I stand and support him 100% of the way... Only thing I felt sorry for her was her miscarriage. I know you were pointing the finger at me and I'm pointing it right back... :) No worries, I can take it, I've got, as the Koreans say, thick skin... :) Ae Ra is now on that long road to becoming the new and improved Ae Ra!!!

She needs to hear all that to wake her up already... I say good for all of them except for the staff and our 2nd female lead...