Trust Haein to gaslight and hurt hyunwoo with her words every single time.
There's literally no need to say, of all the terrible things happening to her, staying at her ex-husbands hometown is the worst of it all. Hyunwoo was crushed hearing that and the look on his face was devastating to watch. People can separate amicably without deliberately hurting each other. I really don't understand this woman. She can see how much he loves her and yet the tone she uses to talk to him is still cold and commanding, as if she is still his boss.
I am sorry, but nothing and no one can convince me this is not the behavior of someone who is too self absorbed and full of ego. This woman can't even comfort her devastated brother.
It really feels hyunwoo and Haein were written by 2 separate writers. Coz atp, haein is just not worth it. The much needed self reflection, realization and character growth is just not happening for her and ep9 is already done.
While hyunwoo seems to be saying and doing all the right things. He even agreed to report every move of his to haein. Atp, he is the lone bright spot in an otherwise toxic storyline and he is the soul of this show.
Love in relationships is overrated. Mutual respect and trust is much more important to sustain a marriage. Hae…
Sharing your misery with your friend is being disrespectful to your spouse? What did he say that made you feel he is being disrespectful?
Also, she doesn't respect him. Go watch ep1 and see how she humiliated him in office. Also, hong so cheol mentioned multiple times that she bullies hyunwoo at work. You are just turning blind eye to it.
Love in relationships is overrated. Mutual respect and trust is much more important to sustain a marriage. Hae…
Post miscarriage, he wanted to grieve with her. He was standing in front of her with his eyes full of tears. She turned her back talking on phone abt businessShe came across incredibly cold and even at that moment only cared about her business. She was holding on to her ego. She didn’t know why he distanced himself? its bcoz she pushed him away with her cold and dismissive attitude. It’s only his job to understand her? So for 2 years also she didn’t find one day to talk abt it?And what crap he talked about her and to whom? Just don't make up random stuff to defend her.
QOT ❤️🩹"Just because I'm not showing you love the way you want doesn't mean I love you any less" - HONG…
Love in relationships is overrated. Mutual respect and trust is much more important to sustain a marriage. Hae In has failed Hyunwoo on both these accords.
They both became cold to each other. I don't think no matter how cold haein was and thought her relationship with…
I appreciate your efforts for constantly pointing it out. Thank you! I really hope people see it for the 'black comedy' it is and not use it as another tool to vilify ml.
there still more to the back story. a lot of conflicts need to be explain. it might not be love can conquer shitsit's…
Nah! there's no more backstory. Whatever revelation had to happen, has happened in ep5. Some people are still looking for more back stroy just so maybe it can absolve hae in of her flaws.
That's all well fine...The point people are making is simple and pointed.'ML is putting in efforts to make up…
It's pointless replying to these people.
Nothing and no one can convince these hae in enthusiasts to see anything beyond what they have already made up their mind on. Just defending him behind is back and passively loving him is not enough.
Accusing other of misogyny while themselves reeking of misandry. The amount or mental abuse and harassment hyunwoo suffered at her and her family's hands, if genders were reversed, not one person here would have a problem with fl even wishing for her husband's death, no matter how damaged the ml is owing to his family background. No one would give a damn for his sufferings.
But just bcoz this is a son in law suffering, people just look past the torture he went through. This guy has had to suffer the humiliation, was dismissed when he warned the hong family against the recent deals and look at the pickle now. He is left with no choice but to go beyond and above his suffering, just so he could keep hae in safe and also help her family regain their business.
All hae in needs to do is communicate to him that she understood his reasons for divorce so that he is free from the guilt of having caused her the pain. And this is where she shows zero growth.
are you sure she is the worst? Oh wait I saw your prof I wonder why you dropped and put on hold shows everythime.
Fair enough. My problem is, very few people are even acknowledging that even she needs redemption. However, the way story is progressing, I have doubts if she will be really shown realizing her flaws. bcoz Hyunwoo doesn't expect anything from her and writer seems more inclined in showing her as a suffering character boxed inside her illness, which is now gonna get worse. However, for the sake of a fulfilling love story, I do hope she shows some growth.
Its not about the acting though, its just that some people do not understand Haeins character...And title her…
That is not enough to rebuild and sustain the relationship. She needs to be more vocal and assertive about her emotions in a way that hyunwoo can see and feel reciprocated. She needs to apologize to him for all the wrongs her family and she has done to him. Otherwise, it will just be a one person doing all the work.
She needs to respect him on his face.
Respecting in front of sml is immaterial if people still continue to humiliate him in front of her/bcoz of her.
We can see she loves him. But Hyunwoo needs to see it too. She needs to learn to express.
Its not about the acting though, its just that some people do not understand Haeins character...And title her…
Again, I never said he isn't at fault. Please you guys using that card that I am absolving hyunwoo is just not true. But since his arc and path to growth is clear, is the reason I am talking more about fl here.
I have only expressed disappointment at her lack of growth. So she does things to him in moment of anger like auditing and all, spews venom at him, and next thing we see is she divorces him bcoz she feels he is miserable? Can you help me understand how this transition is convincing and why she doesn't owe him an apology for the way she did all the nasty things to him just out of anger? Is he the only one who should be mending and apologising in this relationship? Is he her punching bag whom she can treat anyway she wants when she is angry?
When he tells her he has been crying since their marriage and she failed to keep her promise, she says she said all those things just so he could marry her. That's just ridiculous. That was her moment to acknowledge her faults and apologise. But it's clear she has no humility to do so.
You guys can defend all you want. But haein is self absorbed, cold and selfish to the core. This has been validated in the show by every character and said by the actress herself. I don't understand why you guys just can't accept it.
Its not about the acting though, its just that some people do not understand Haeins character...And title her…
You guys are literally failing to see the point of my post. I am not even saying only fl is at blame. I clearly said both are to be blame. But while ml has already accepted his mistakes, has apologised and is set on a path to rectify it all, fl is far from it.
No matter what the circumstances, it's the most natural reaction wanting to hear out another person why they wanted to end a relationship.
Its not about the acting though, its just that some people do not understand Haeins character...And title her…
How does it clarify how she realized he suffered in the marriage? Bcoz the epilogue is clearly after the divorce while she claims that she divorced him to set him free from his misery.
What drama are you even watching? Because it sure doesn't sound like it's this one. Oh yes, the FL suffering from…
Why do I think he deserved to speak? bcoz these two need to communicate and someone had to take the initiative.
And why are you hung up on miscarriage to play the woman card and accuse others of misogyny? I am clearly talking about their present circumstances. You can't just play a woman card to get out of every situation you should be accountable for.
I just need you to answer one question. How did she conclude he was suffering and he needs to be freed? And if it was so easy for her to realize that, why didn't hyunwoo deserve a chance to speak? Why she thought it was okay to humiliate him with the audit checks, hacking his phone, computer, tracking his Financials? And after doing all this, suddenly she realizes oh he suffered so much and I should divorce him. How is that even convincing?
What drama are you even watching? Because it sure doesn't sound like it's this one. Oh yes, the FL suffering from…
One scene I meant where she realizes her flaws as far as their marriage is concerned. Not some random employee.
What led her to conclude hyunwoo was suffering in the marriage? Did they show that? Why did she not allow him to speak when he was begging for a chance?? You just can't make a character act noble and expect us to buy that. Show some efforts, real growth.
She thinks she did great by freeing him, while he continues to feel guilty for planning a divorce. If Hae In has realized he was suffering In the marriage, he deserves to know it so that he is also freed from his guilt.
And you lost me at the misogyn accusation. Don't be throwing nonsense at real people for fictional characters. Don't bother replying. Tada.
The first episodes are from the ml's perspective. Pretty much all the episodes that have aired have been from…
She is supposed to allow him a chance to speak why he planned for divorce. Hyunwoo wanted to communicate about his stance on divorce. She dismissed him. There's only so much Hyunwoon can do alone to make things work.
What drama are you even watching? Because it sure doesn't sound like it's this one. Oh yes, the FL suffering from…
You clearly missed the point of my comment. You say fl is also a flawed character. Tell me one scene where fl is seen genuinely reflecting upon her flaws? That's all my point is.
We have seen hyunwoo being flawed. We have seen his realization We have seen him apologise to her. We have seen how he is determined to protect her, inspite of their current circumstances.
She has done none of this. That's all I am saying.
There's literally no need to say, of all the terrible things happening to her, staying at her ex-husbands hometown is the worst of it all.
Hyunwoo was crushed hearing that and the look on his face was devastating to watch. People can separate amicably without deliberately hurting each other. I really don't understand this woman. She can see how much he loves her and yet the tone she uses to talk to him is still cold and commanding, as if she is still his boss.
I am sorry, but nothing and no one can convince me this is not the behavior of someone who is too self absorbed and full of ego. This woman can't even comfort her devastated brother.
It really feels hyunwoo and Haein were written by 2 separate writers. Coz atp, haein is just not worth it. The much needed self reflection, realization and character growth is just not happening for her and ep9 is already done.
While hyunwoo seems to be saying and doing all the right things. He even agreed to report every move of his to haein. Atp, he is the lone bright spot in an otherwise toxic storyline and he is the soul of this show.
Also, she doesn't respect him. Go watch ep1 and see how she humiliated him in office. Also, hong so cheol mentioned multiple times that she bullies hyunwoo at work. You are just turning blind eye to it.
Also, the tag is 'black comedy'.
There's only so much you can argue with your 'both being flawed' but she also loved him theory.
I really hope people see it for the 'black comedy' it is and not use it as another tool to vilify ml.
Some people are still looking for more back stroy just so maybe it can absolve hae in of her flaws.
Nothing and no one can convince these hae in enthusiasts to see anything beyond what they have already made up their mind on. Just defending him behind is back and passively loving him is not enough.
Accusing other of misogyny while themselves reeking of misandry. The amount or mental abuse and harassment hyunwoo suffered at her and her family's hands, if genders were reversed, not one person here would have a problem with fl even wishing for her husband's death, no matter how damaged the ml is owing to his family background. No one would give a damn for his sufferings.
But just bcoz this is a son in law suffering, people just look past the torture he went through. This guy has had to suffer the humiliation, was dismissed when he warned the hong family against the recent deals and look at the pickle now. He is left with no choice but to go beyond and above his suffering, just so he could keep hae in safe and also help her family regain their business.
All hae in needs to do is communicate to him that she understood his reasons for divorce so that he is free from the guilt of having caused her the pain. And this is where she shows zero growth.
However, the way story is progressing, I have doubts if she will be really shown realizing her flaws. bcoz Hyunwoo doesn't expect anything from her and writer seems more inclined in showing her as a suffering character boxed inside her illness, which is now gonna get worse.
However, for the sake of a fulfilling love story, I do hope she shows some growth.
She needs to respect him on his face.
Respecting in front of sml is immaterial if people still continue to humiliate him in front of her/bcoz of her.
We can see she loves him. But Hyunwoo needs to see it too. She needs to learn to express.
I have only expressed disappointment at her lack of growth. So she does things to him in moment of anger like auditing and all, spews venom at him, and next thing we see is she divorces him bcoz she feels he is miserable? Can you help me understand how this transition is convincing and why she doesn't owe him an apology for the way she did all the nasty things to him just out of anger? Is he the only one who should be mending and apologising in this relationship? Is he her punching bag whom she can treat anyway she wants when she is angry?
When he tells her he has been crying since their marriage and she failed to keep her promise, she says she said all those things just so he could marry her. That's just ridiculous. That was her moment to acknowledge her faults and apologise. But it's clear she has no humility to do so.
You guys can defend all you want. But haein is self absorbed, cold and selfish to the core. This has been validated in the show by every character and said by the actress herself. I don't understand why you guys just can't accept it.
No matter what the circumstances, it's the most natural reaction wanting to hear out another person why they wanted to end a relationship.
And why are you hung up on miscarriage to play the woman card and accuse others of misogyny? I am clearly talking about their present circumstances. You can't just play a woman card to get out of every situation you should be accountable for.
I just need you to answer one question. How did she conclude he was suffering and he needs to be freed? And if it was so easy for her to realize that, why didn't hyunwoo deserve a chance to speak? Why she thought it was okay to humiliate him with the audit checks, hacking his phone, computer, tracking his Financials? And after doing all this, suddenly she realizes oh he suffered so much and I should divorce him. How is that even convincing?
What led her to conclude hyunwoo was suffering in the marriage? Did they show that? Why did she not allow him to speak when he was begging for a chance??
You just can't make a character act noble and expect us to buy that. Show some efforts, real growth.
She thinks she did great by freeing him, while he continues to feel guilty for planning a divorce. If Hae In has realized he was suffering In the marriage, he deserves to know it so that he is also freed from his guilt.
And you lost me at the misogyn accusation. Don't be throwing nonsense at real people for fictional characters. Don't bother replying. Tada.
You say fl is also a flawed character. Tell me one scene where fl is seen genuinely reflecting upon her flaws? That's all my point is.
We have seen hyunwoo being flawed. We have seen his realization We have seen him apologise to her. We have seen how he is determined to protect her, inspite of their current circumstances.
She has done none of this. That's all I am saying.