i am sorry, but i don't give two shits that "...Kanda is also a victim..." he - as the adult - didn't…
didn't say it's wrong. just to me it comes off as a justification, a excuse, a get out free card & that's something i don't think Kanada & his ilk deserve. yeah he might have suffered, but being the adult, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just target someone vulnerable, but also someone impressionable & he turned himself into his only life-line. he has brainwashed him to such a degree - Akira is terrified of ending things even when offered an out, cause he thinks Kanada is the only one that will accept him for who/what he is. so trying to psychoanalyze Kanada is great, for understanding the man, but his actions?? yeah, nope i could care less how much he suffered. i would rather analyze the outcome of his grooming & how it is affecting his victim. the fact there BL's dealing with this subject, this isn't bad - but i can't be detached in my approach to this or any subject that r a red line for me. & grooming of any kinda make me see red.
anyway am sorry if u felt i was attacking u personally, there points where i agree with u, but on a whole cause of this subject i was heated. nothing personal β
not these days - have u watched the Pornographer? that's wild (any of the drama's & short movies in that series)…
idk about wild, but i guess there r BL's that can go there (& movies for sure). but on a whole most of the BL r like the ones on ur list - "meaningful" or more PG.
that kiss at the end was kinda underwhelming to say the least, lol (when u compare it to the flashback scenes) but Sakutaro was moved - so i guess it felt more impassioned them it looked π π
p.s. is Sakutaro brother-in-law interested in him? idk why from the 1s ep there is something in how he looks at Sakutaro, that makes me wonder. but maybe i am reading too much into a look π€·ββοΈ
Li ming probably just playing the playboy part with girls
i hope he doesn't, but it can also be Ouyang Han's heart that gets broken twice. cause, just cause they sleep together doesn't mean Li Ming will be ready to be with him, as an official couple π€·ββοΈ
In the post credit scenes we see He Jin stab Chen Ke β¦ idk but this drama might have an open ending with trama…
what? i missed that - i guess i need to rewatch ASAP. thanks for the heads up.
but hope u r wrong, even though from the start cause of the narration, i had a bad feeling that it isn't a couple reminiscing about how they met, but someone recalling their 1st love π₯ hope i aint right ugh π«
had a feeling Ouyang Han was interested in Yu Lei, throwing him hints to see how he would react to the gay issue, let alone to himself (what with the non-stop flirting). but Yu Lei never had eyes for him. this ep made it very clear that he is interested in Yu Lei. felt sad/bad for him, he actually tried to changed his appearance to look like Chen Ke, as if that would make Yu Lei notice him. & i am happy Li Ming will be there to pick up the pieces, BUT as we have seen in the previous ep Li Ming got a gf. so how's that gonna work π€·ββοΈ how complicated is this gonna get. i am stressing out as is with He Jin lurking in the shadows ugh. even Zhang Han is circling the pair & if that wasn't enough Chen Ke's father could be the "cherry" on top aishπ€¦ββοΈ
i like some, would rather not have to sit through Akira's grooming scenes as it's not a comfortable watch (& that's putting it lightly). but i know they're there for us to understand his character better. like his panicked rejection of ending that "relationship" it's cause he was groomed & not just that, but also Kanada made sure (like every experienced pedo knows to do) to use Akir'a insecurities against him, isolating him into thinking he is the only one that will accept him for who he is & wouldn't reject or treat him as his 1st crush did. cause they in the same boat - they share the same secret. he told Akira he took advantage of his kindness - nope(!) he took advantage of Akira's secret - that he was gay & scared this secret would get out. that is what is binding Akira to him & even though Akira knows it's wrong & is ashamed of this "relationship" he is more worried that if they ended things, he would be left all alone. that's freakin sad & that's why what Kanda did to him, was so much worse then just using him sexually.
from the sec i "got" that Akira's story aint gonna be light, i knew this won't be the usual fluff - teen love BL. which is usually what we get. just need to mentally prepare myself before every ep, cause i know i will have to stomach watching the gaslighting & manipulation - which we have with abundance with Kanada's character. this makes me wonder, do i even want the mains together? cause Akira has enough on his plate & needs to 1st learn to stand on his own two feet & love himself without leaning on a sicko that's just dragging him down & will never be healthy for him mentally. if anything he will keep him tied down, never allowing Akira to "spread his wings" then maybe he will be ready for love. idk -
I like this show a lot so far. Yes, the tutor is kind of gross and yes, I believe he took advantage. However,…
he isn't(!) letting him go. he leaves it up to Akira while knowing full well that he has groomed & conditioned Akira into thinking he is the only one that he has, that will understand & accept him. that's why Akira won't ever take the offer - why he straight off rejects the offer, cause he terrified thinking no one else will accept him for who he is - who made him feel this isolated, if not that groomer?!??? the fact u think he isn't being manipulative - like really?? or maybe i am just that jaded, that i can see through the manipulation. which in every scene he's in, u can sense with the sh*t he says... which might seem caring & considerate, but they far from.
Kanda is also a victim of a society he cannot conform to. He takes advantage of Akira because he knew, too, at…
i am sorry, but i don't give two shits that "...Kanda is also a victim..." he - as the adult - didn't know a better way to guide & help Akira??? grooming & f*cking him was the best way???? i will NEVER accept the excuse where someone will say "i was hurt, thus i hurt." - if u were hurt, u know how it feels & should DO BETTER!!!
he saw how vulnerable Akira was, saw the opening & took it - there aint NO justifying his actions. even now he keep suggesting they end things, but he never say "let's end it" he knows that even now Akira is emotional dependent on him & this is something he has subconsciously nurtured, isolating him - making Akira feel like he is the only one that understands & will be there for him. that's why it didn't bother Akira that Kanda sleeps around. cause this relationship is f*cked up. & to Akira he is a life line - this sad & messed-up & Kanda knows he is *cked up & that's why he told Akira to not only keep the secret but not disclose everything to Kanata, not cause he cares how hurt Kanata might get. it's his own ass he is covering.
what is He Jin's deal?!? from the 1st ep i am getting a really bad vibe from him. if this was an american drama, i would say he's the type to turn "school shooter" here idk.... but every time he is on screen, he has this weird look on his face & idk how to read it.
* btw he is Chen Ke's roommate - the 1st one he met - for those who donno who i am talking about.
scare? if anything maybe "false hope" might be more fitting... cause if there is a 2nd season (π₯³) even…
ahhhh.. guess i didn't know that there were supposed to be 2nd seasons for any of the C-BL's. i just assumed as they have all the censorship issues, that the actors would avoid doing more than one BL. so never bothered to check if there was more to come. π π
I don't want to scare you but... I've read that there will be season 2 and looking at the stage they are in right…
scare? if anything maybe "false hope" might be more fitting... cause if there is a 2nd season (π₯³) even if the 1st season has a sad ending, u know there is more to come & then we might get a happy ending. but even if we get a happy ending & there's no season 2, that would be disappointing - cause no more after this BL ends π₯ which is usually the case not just with C-BL's, but with the pairs (actors) in these BL's.
even though the vibe was laid back, u could feel the tension between the leads - the acting is solid, but that's to be expected with mature actors. can't wait for more π
yeah he might have suffered, but being the adult, he knew what he was doing. he didn't just target someone vulnerable, but also someone impressionable & he turned himself into his only life-line. he has brainwashed him to such a degree - Akira is terrified of ending things even when offered an out, cause he thinks Kanada is the only one that will accept him for who/what he is.
so trying to psychoanalyze Kanada is great, for understanding the man, but his actions?? yeah, nope i could care less how much he suffered. i would rather analyze the outcome of his grooming & how it is affecting his victim.
the fact there BL's dealing with this subject, this isn't bad - but i can't be detached in my approach to this or any subject that r a red line for me. & grooming of any kinda make me see red.
anyway am sorry if u felt i was attacking u personally, there points where i agree with u, but on a whole cause of this subject i was heated. nothing personal β
p.s. is Sakutaro brother-in-law interested in him? idk why from the 1s ep there is something in how he looks at Sakutaro, that makes me wonder. but maybe i am reading too much into a look π€·ββοΈ
but hope u r wrong, even though from the start cause of the narration, i had a bad feeling that it isn't a couple reminiscing about how they met, but someone recalling their 1st love π₯ hope i aint right ugh π«
felt sad/bad for him, he actually tried to changed his appearance to look like Chen Ke, as if that would make Yu Lei notice him. & i am happy Li Ming will be there to pick up the pieces, BUT as we have seen in the previous ep Li Ming got a gf. so how's that gonna work π€·ββοΈ
how complicated is this gonna get. i am stressing out as is with He Jin lurking in the shadows ugh. even Zhang Han is circling the pair & if that wasn't enough Chen Ke's father could be the "cherry" on top aishπ€¦ββοΈ
he told Akira he took advantage of his kindness - nope(!) he took advantage of Akira's secret - that he was gay & scared this secret would get out. that is what is binding Akira to him & even though Akira knows it's wrong & is ashamed of this "relationship" he is more worried that if they ended things, he would be left all alone. that's freakin sad & that's why what Kanda did to him, was so much worse then just using him sexually.
from the sec i "got" that Akira's story aint gonna be light, i knew this won't be the usual fluff - teen love BL. which is usually what we get. just need to mentally prepare myself before every ep, cause i know i will have to stomach watching the gaslighting & manipulation - which we have with abundance with Kanada's character. this makes me wonder, do i even want the mains together? cause Akira has enough on his plate & needs to 1st learn to stand on his own two feet & love himself without leaning on a sicko that's just dragging him down & will never be healthy for him mentally. if anything he will keep him tied down, never allowing Akira to "spread his wings" then maybe he will be ready for love. idk -
the fact u think he isn't being manipulative - like really?? or maybe i am just that jaded, that i can see through the manipulation. which in every scene he's in, u can sense with the sh*t he says... which might seem caring & considerate, but they far from.
i will NEVER accept the excuse where someone will say "i was hurt, thus i hurt." - if u were hurt, u know how it feels & should DO BETTER!!!
he saw how vulnerable Akira was, saw the opening & took it - there aint NO justifying his actions. even now he keep suggesting they end things, but he never say "let's end it" he knows that even now Akira is emotional dependent on him & this is something he has subconsciously nurtured, isolating him - making Akira feel like he is the only one that understands & will be there for him.
that's why it didn't bother Akira that Kanda sleeps around. cause this relationship is f*cked up. & to Akira he is a life line - this sad & messed-up & Kanda knows he is *cked up & that's why he told Akira to not only keep the secret but not disclose everything to Kanata, not cause he cares how hurt Kanata might get. it's his own ass he is covering.
* btw he is Chen Ke's roommate - the 1st one he met - for those who donno who i am talking about.
but even if we get a happy ending & there's no season 2, that would be disappointing - cause no more after this BL ends π₯ which is usually the case not just with C-BL's, but with the pairs (actors) in these BL's.