Except that Lee Yeon already saved her life at least 5 times. If that isn't damsel in distress... Juuuuustttt…
Okay listen, as I'm sure you've realized this discussion has become beyond pointless by this point yeah? I'm not sure, why you even wanna keep talking about any of this exactly? I really don't understand what type of answer are you expecting from me at this point? But here you go:
- In Supernatural some of the seasons do have one of the boys romantically involved with a supernatural character even though it isn't the main focus. I have NEVER said the characters have to be smart ALL the time and never mess up. - I have no problem with characters putting themselves in danger to save each other, I do have a problem with characters who put themselves in danger for no reason. - You are welcome to accept and forgive as many clichés as you want, doesn't mean that I have to start magically liking these clichés just because you say so, and I am not willing to accept and start praising a writers lazy writing. - I never said the female lead wasn't smart, if you remember, you claimed the female lead never willingly put herself in danger and I disagreed and pointed out some of the times It seemed to me that she did. Again I never said she can't make mistakes, but the writers can't be trying to make me believe she's so smart and then have her do the stupidest things in the next scene.
This is MY OPINION. You don't have to agree with me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Can we PLEASE MOVE ON.
Except that Lee Yeon already saved her life at least 5 times. If that isn't damsel in distress... Juuuuustttt…
Your comments are perfectly understandable. English is my 3rd language and I also sometimes have a hard time getting my thoughts across.
The problem here isn't that I don't understand your point of view, it's once again, that I happen to disagree with it: - I think the female lead though brave in searching for her parents, does put herself constantly in dangerous situations, I'm not gonna list every single thing but off the top of my head; Running after a mentally unstable man into the woods on her own, going into a house of a suspicious man on her own, provoking a supernatural being who clearly dislikes her, going up to the second floor of her bosses house after being told not to, going up to a roof when she's being chased by ghost children... There are more if you just look for them. They attempted to portray the female lead as a strong, smart and capable woman and they somewhat failed in my opinion. They should have gone with a sweet and innocent lead and that would have been way more believable (like they did with Goblin). - I also wholeheartedly disagree with the assumption that just because a show has supernatural elements and a human counterpart, then we most suspend disbelief and have the human character constantly be saved by it's supernatural partner. Supernatural is an obvious example, even when the brothers are only human they can pretty much save themselves, more than that even some of the human side characters are just as badass as the supernatural ones. Also in some of the shows you yourself mentioned, even though there are elements of a "damsel in distress", some of the human characters are pretty capable on there own (I haven't watched Teen Wolf or Hotel del Luna so I wouldn't presume to comment on those).
Me and You just happen to have two very different perspectives and that's totally OK. I can love the parts you dislike, and dislike the parts you love, and that too is totally FINE. People don't have to agree on everything, and you don't need to try and argue your point of view to the ground, you have to let it go at some point. I replied again with my perspective because you seemed to want to read it, but I'm clearly trying to disengage with this situation. Have a nice day.
Except that Lee Yeon already saved her life at least 5 times. If that isn't damsel in distress... Juuuuustttt…
Darling everything you wrote is from your own perspective and understanding, that's how - you - see things. Again all the situations you mentioned are up for debate and I certainly don't have the time nor the energy to get into any of it with you.
I will address that last paragraph you wrote though, it's NOT your place to tell people what they should or shouldn't be watching. Please, next time strive to be more open-minded, try and appreciate those who hold different perspectives and ideas to your own, and above all else respect those who share them. All you telling me or anyone else "you shouldn't be watching this drama" does is alienate a part of the audience who might love the show you love but for different reasons. Writing it the way you did to me seems highly disrespectful, and I do hope in the future you refrain from saying that to anyone else. Good day :)
Except that Lee Yeon already saved her life at least 5 times. If that isn't damsel in distress... Juuuuustttt…
Willingly or unwillingly that is up for debate. I will repeat it for your benefit also my friend, to each his own.
From my point of view, If an adult woman does something or acts in a way that ends up getting her constantly in danger is she not willing then? If she does so knowing full well she is going to be saved are these not the actions of a damsel in distress as per the original post? As for Hotel del Luna that is a show I dropped after 3 episodes because the male lead was made to be too much of a damsel in distress for my taste.
I don't personally think the acting is over the top, especially if you've ever seen first hand how a parent reacts…
Ohh I see, sorry I totally missed you initial point! You might be right about that, I haven't noticed it but I'm actually curious and gonna watch to see if I can spot it. I did notice the makeup though, and yeah I agree, maybe too much.
Except that Lee Yeon already saved her life at least 5 times. If that isn't damsel in distress... Juuuuustttt…
To each his own my friend :) We might have different definitions of what a damsel in distress is. I don't necessarily think damsels in distress are specifically "cowards", a simplified text book definition would be "A young woman who is in trouble and needs a man's help".
You believe it's the character's brave nature that puts her in dangerous situations, I think it's exactly what a damsel in distress does - Puts herself in danger knowing full well she is going to be rescued (example, her jumping of the building). She does wait to be saved in one of those situations (but I'm not sure if you've watched that yet). I do agree she isn't a coward, but that doesn't mean she isn't a damsel in distress. Again to each his own (￣▽￣*)ゞ
Same, I hope the brothers will be the main focus by the end of it. But I don't believe that will happen. In my…
That's exactly what I was going for - Most predictable K-drama endings - Haha!! It would literally be a miracle if the show goes the route me and you are hoping for. And I honestly agree with that last statement ( ´ ω ` )
Good acting (if a bit over the top) ! But the plot is a mess, the ML should provide everything so that the FL…
I don't personally think the acting is over the top, especially if you've ever seen first hand how a parent reacts to the loss of their child, to me it felt like both characters nailed it.
So ... I have this theory where by the end of the show, the character roles will change: Lee Rang and Lee Yeon…
Same, I hope the brothers will be the main focus by the end of it. But I don't believe that will happen. In my opinion it's more likely that - Lee Rang will sacrifice himself for the couple (and I don't think he's gonna reincarnate), Ji Ah will probably die in some way to finally truly kill the imoogi but she will reincarnate and end up together with Lee Yeon again both as humans, and the side couple will have a happy ending in the current timeline...
P.S. Lee Rang is definitely my favorite character in this show , gonna love his upcoming redemption arc.
that's why i love it. too many drama focus so much on the lead and make supporting cast is just, a supporting.…
I think I might have failed to convey my initial problem with this drama, that's my fault sorry. I personally absolutely love the concept, plot-line and that the supporting cast gets more time to shine on screen.
My only problem is that during dialogue scenes there isn't much diversity in the way the characters speak, they all talk in a way that is patronizing, and since I tend to dislike people who are condescending in real life, it makes me more inclined to dislike these types of characters.
I don't totally agree with that, each character is important, that marks the richness of this drama, it's also…
Sorry not sure I understand your comment. I wasn't saying the characters aren't important. I also wasn't trying to criticize the screenwriter for anything.
I finally understood my problem with this drama - Every single character in it is "pompous and self-important", be it the leads or supporting characters. I understand that they're all con-artists in one way or another. But having so many pretentious characters in on drama is exhausting for me as a viewer, it's like every scene has to have one character acting in a condescending way to another, even some of the romantic scenes are like that jeez.
Unlike the others, In my opinion this drama totally has Goblin vibes. On the surface the story might seem a bit…
What I wrote before about the plot was meant in a more general sense, fantasy drama's usually follow a similar narrative and this one does too. In my opinion the plot isn't that dark, it just has an added thrill element because you have ghosts involved. I do agree that this will most definitely have a happy ending, Goblin did too I mean the male and female leads ended up together. And like I said I'm watching this show now mainly for the brothers, their relationship is so much more interesting than the romantic plot and all the fantasy elements put together.
I think is balanced enough for all genres lovers :)
Agree to disagree. I had really high hopes for this drama, and up until now it fell short, in my opinion of course. And hey maybe that's my fault, that I came in expecting too much, I wanted it to be mind blowing and it's not, again that's my opinion. The only thing keeping me watching is the Mythical Fox Brothers' twisted relationship and the amazing chemistry these two actors have portraying brothers.
- In Supernatural some of the seasons do have one of the boys romantically involved with a supernatural character even though it isn't the main focus. I have NEVER said the characters have to be smart ALL the time and never mess up.
- I have no problem with characters putting themselves in danger to save each other, I do have a problem with characters who put themselves in danger for no reason.
- You are welcome to accept and forgive as many clichés as you want, doesn't mean that I have to start magically liking these clichés just because you say so, and I am not willing to accept and start praising a writers lazy writing.
- I never said the female lead wasn't smart, if you remember, you claimed the female lead never willingly put herself in danger and I disagreed and pointed out some of the times It seemed to me that she did. Again I never said she can't make mistakes, but the writers can't be trying to make me believe she's so smart and then have her do the stupidest things in the next scene.
This is MY OPINION. You don't have to agree with me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Can we PLEASE MOVE ON.
The problem here isn't that I don't understand your point of view, it's once again, that I happen to disagree with it:
- I think the female lead though brave in searching for her parents, does put herself constantly in dangerous situations, I'm not gonna list every single thing but off the top of my head; Running after a mentally unstable man into the woods on her own, going into a house of a suspicious man on her own, provoking a supernatural being who clearly dislikes her, going up to the second floor of her bosses house after being told not to, going up to a roof when she's being chased by ghost children... There are more if you just look for them. They attempted to portray the female lead as a strong, smart and capable woman and they somewhat failed in my opinion. They should have gone with a sweet and innocent lead and that would have been way more believable (like they did with Goblin).
- I also wholeheartedly disagree with the assumption that just because a show has supernatural elements and a human counterpart, then we most suspend disbelief and have the human character constantly be saved by it's supernatural partner. Supernatural is an obvious example, even when the brothers are only human they can pretty much save themselves, more than that even some of the human side characters are just as badass as the supernatural ones. Also in some of the shows you yourself mentioned, even though there are elements of a "damsel in distress", some of the human characters are pretty capable on there own (I haven't watched Teen Wolf or Hotel del Luna so I wouldn't presume to comment on those).
Me and You just happen to have two very different perspectives and that's totally OK. I can love the parts you dislike, and dislike the parts you love, and that too is totally FINE. People don't have to agree on everything, and you don't need to try and argue your point of view to the ground, you have to let it go at some point. I replied again with my perspective because you seemed to want to read it, but I'm clearly trying to disengage with this situation. Have a nice day.
I will address that last paragraph you wrote though, it's NOT your place to tell people what they should or shouldn't be watching. Please, next time strive to be more open-minded, try and appreciate those who hold different perspectives and ideas to your own, and above all else respect those who share them. All you telling me or anyone else "you shouldn't be watching this drama" does is alienate a part of the audience who might love the show you love but for different reasons. Writing it the way you did to me seems highly disrespectful, and I do hope in the future you refrain from saying that to anyone else. Good day :)
From my point of view, If an adult woman does something or acts in a way that ends up getting her constantly in danger is she not willing then? If she does so knowing full well she is going to be saved are these not the actions of a damsel in distress as per the original post? As for Hotel del Luna that is a show I dropped after 3 episodes because the male lead was made to be too much of a damsel in distress for my taste.
We might have different definitions of what a damsel in distress is. I don't necessarily think damsels in distress are specifically "cowards", a simplified text book definition would be "A young woman who is in trouble and needs a man's help".
You believe it's the character's brave nature that puts her in dangerous situations, I think it's exactly what a damsel in distress does - Puts herself in danger knowing full well she is going to be rescued (example, her jumping of the building). She does wait to be saved in one of those situations (but I'm not sure if you've watched that yet). I do agree she isn't a coward, but that doesn't mean she isn't a damsel in distress.
Again to each his own (￣▽￣*)ゞ
P.S. Lee Rang is definitely my favorite character in this show , gonna love his upcoming redemption arc.
My only problem is that during dialogue scenes there isn't much diversity in the way the characters speak, they all talk in a way that is patronizing, and since I tend to dislike people who are condescending in real life, it makes me more inclined to dislike these types of characters.
Every single character in it is "pompous and self-important", be it the leads or supporting characters. I understand that they're all con-artists in one way or another. But having so many pretentious characters in on drama is exhausting for me as a viewer, it's like every scene has to have one character acting in a condescending way to another, even some of the romantic scenes are like that jeez.
Meaning give me more Mythical Fox Brothers interactions please!