Jin Hwan wants him so bad, lol. I'm glad we got clarity on the phone call. The thing is, as I said before, Min…
The conversation we were shown the second time was completely different from what we heard the first time around. Same with the conversation between Jin Hwan and his friend outside that deli where the friends met and Min Joo watched the two of them talk through the window. The first time they were up against the glass with JH's friend's arm around his shoulder, face-to-face in an intimate way. This second time they're standing ten feet from the glass, facing each other directly, and not touching. That's not a misinterpretation of one event, that's two entirely different scenarios.
Same thing with the phone call. The dialogue is way different the second time from the first time. The idea being presented has potential but the ability to execute it is beyond this writing/directing team.
2 eps to go Why drag that stupid misunderstanding. Let them be together already. By looking at the preview it…
If they were already together, the show would be boring. Not that it's not boring anyway, but for different reasons. The story is about them being apart because of different perspectives on shared experiences. Unfortunately, it is written and directed badly.
I actually find years of very close friendships more important than the person I'm just starting to date. Friends…
Everything you said again, except one tiny correction: Jin didn't even bother to close the bedroom door. It was standing wide open. The show is poorly written and directed.
The lameness continues. The show lacks energy, which compounds all the other problems I won't go into because there are too many of them to deal with in one comment.
The script wants to play with the way we all remember things differently, but it's the script that undercuts that concept. In numerous flashbacks, the particulars of what we see from Jin Hwan's perspective have been changed significantly from what we saw ourselves from Min Jun's viewpoint. Characters are in different positions, placed differently, and even speak different lines than we specifically heard the first time around.
The show fails at presenting ONE incident from opposing angles because it changes the incident itself when it shows it a second time. There is no room for opposing interpretations of the event because the FACTS of the event are not the same. We see two guys talking intimately, one's arm around the other's shoulder as they lean in close, face to face, while snuggled up against a window. Then, when we see the event a second time, they are multiple feet away from the window, not side-to-side but facing each other, and neither has his arm around the other.
It's like one person saying, "I saw Bill and Sam making out while laying on the hood of a car in the parking garage at 8pm last night" and another person saying, "Oh really? Cause at 8pm last night I saw them at the arcade across town fishing the 425,000th BL Korean Teddy Bear out of a machine." Then the two people look at each other and say, "Gosh, I wonder how we both misinterpreted that one event?" That's what's wrong with this show.
Oh well...it's not like any of this matters. BAU is another Korean BL I'll forget by next week.
Not to be the usual party pooper that I am, but haven't we seen the "let's go shopping, try on silly hats/glasses/other…
That is true! DBW's one-note facial expression has become increasingly annoying as the show moves on. I have a feeling it's not the actor's choice; that he is more talented than that, but that's what the director has instructed him to do. It's a mistake. He comes off not frustrated, or confused, or lovelorn, but...apathetic; as if he doesn't much care one way or the other.
When he looks into the face of the young man he has loved most of his life, we ought to see that in his own face, but we don't. Or I don't. I see pretty much nothing.
Since you're Here For The BL, please let me know if you're watching something good I don't know about. I'm so desperate I'm even open to Thai shows again. The only other BL on my current watchlist is Business As Usual, which is...bad.
You're free to like and watch as you wish, of course, but this attitude is why Korean BL is dying: lack of standards.…
What part of "You're free to like and watch as you wish, of course..." did you not understand?
Perhaps you're just tired and bored with the BL-watching choices you're making. Don't project that onto everyone else who's just out here having standards. Did you know you can have standards and still have loads of fun? It's true!
Do you mean to imply that the lower your standards, the more "fun" you have? If so, great! Live it! Be it! Enjoy it. No one told you not to do so, and I specifically told you TO do so. Strange.
It has nothing to do with Kpop. Being a good person is not easy at all, actually, it's one of the hardest thing…
I'm sorry you can't comprehend well-written comments. However, that's not my problem.
How desperate of you to bring up Donald Trump. Cuts no ice with me, sister-woman. I didn't vote for the Orange Turd and I hate him and everything he does. I'm guessing wherever you live is a bleeding shithole country, if only because you live there.
Your other insults directed at the U.S. are common, coming from people around the world, such as yourself, who have inferiority complexes toward America. I get it. The U.S. has been the richest economy and most dominant political force world-wide since WW2, nearly 80 years ago. Your "butthurt" about that isn't my problem, either.
"Honeyboo, I met with her multiple times in the past 20 years since I'm a fan of her. I think I know her better than you."
hahahahahahahahahahaha...hoo boy, thanks for the laughs. So your multiple, deep and meaningful chats across an autograph table at fan meets where you slobbered your fangurl worship at your idol, shrieked, and waved your light sticks have made the two of you great friends and gifted you great insight into her character and private life, eh?
Pardon me for a second: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
The most revealing thing about your nonsense here is that I have not once disparaged this woman or claimed to know anything about her. My reference to the possibility that she eats babies, but no one knows because the paps haven't caught her doing it yet, is over your head. Exaggeration and hyperbole are above your pay grade. Going forward, I'll adjust my writing to compensate for that.
Send me a pic of your bedroom decorated in fangurl crap, preferably with you in the foreground with your light sticks and fan hat, making heart signs for the camera. Thanks in advance.
I don't get the hate for love triangles. Is it that they're so over-done?
I'm sorry that bothers you so much. :) Love triangles have been a staple of drama of all kinds for thousands of years. They only annoy me when they are poorly written, as is this one. None of the "interruptions and cockblocking" going on here feels organic or real; just crammed into the script to get us to whatever clunky, awkward plot point is next.
I'd have dropped this a couple episodes back except that my BL watchlist is bare and I'm desperate. :) I find the guy with Pillow Lips to be pretty, so I look at him a lot. :D
"Also if they actually communicated, this show will end in 1 episode of 30mins. "It is not the lack of communication…
What's with your over-the-top defense of the indefensible here?
I didn't watch this lame show FOR the cute boys. I only ended up sticking with it to look AT the boys because everything else about this show is lame..."y'all." I made this clear in my post above. Work on English comprehension.
But yeah, after reading your comment, I see now that you're right: this is a great work of art.
Your rant is non-responsive to anything I wrote so I'll stop. I have no idea what the hell you're on about, anyway. "Character growth..." lol
Outstanding acting (except for the warden), especially from Nat Kitcharit (I kept thinking I recognized him from somewhere; it was ITSAY and IPYTM); all six mains were excellent, mostly awesome direction; some questionable plot implausibilities; 99% amazing fight choreo; off the charts cinematography/sets/makeup/overall gritty realism.
This is far better than expected; I've not had great experiences with Thai cinema in general, but this is good, especially if you're a fan of well-done prison flicks. Hated to see things go down the way they did for Fluke, but the truth is this is far more the reality than the exception in such situations. The actor brought depth and authenticity to what could easily have been a cliche role. Kind of pissed me off how Phueak seemed to blow him off and forget him after they were separated...
I'll have to check out these "4 Kings" flicks. Might not be my thing but after seeing this, they're worth a look.
8.5/10 Points off are for implausibilities and a few lame plot points, such as asking us to see the warden as suddenly a decent person near the end. wtf was that?
I think my favorite part thus far, is when they were taking the thousands of pics together. It was nice to see…
Not to be the usual party pooper that I am, but haven't we seen the "let's go shopping, try on silly hats/glasses/other crap in junk shops, laugh wildly while taking endless selfies of each other, making heart-fingers, V-fingers and all the usual poses, laugh wildly some more as if something is wildly funny, buy junk food at a convenience store, blah blah blah" thing about 356 times before in 356 other shows?
What BL are you watching?
Same thing with the phone call. The dialogue is way different the second time from the first time. The idea being presented has potential but the ability to execute it is beyond this writing/directing team.
The lameness continues. The show lacks energy, which compounds all the other problems I won't go into because there are too many of them to deal with in one comment.
The script wants to play with the way we all remember things differently, but it's the script that undercuts that concept. In numerous flashbacks, the particulars of what we see from Jin Hwan's perspective have been changed significantly from what we saw ourselves from Min Jun's viewpoint. Characters are in different positions, placed differently, and even speak different lines than we specifically heard the first time around.
The show fails at presenting ONE incident from opposing angles because it changes the incident itself when it shows it a second time. There is no room for opposing interpretations of the event because the FACTS of the event are not the same. We see two guys talking intimately, one's arm around the other's shoulder as they lean in close, face to face, while snuggled up against a window. Then, when we see the event a second time, they are multiple feet away from the window, not side-to-side but facing each other, and neither has his arm around the other.
It's like one person saying, "I saw Bill and Sam making out while laying on the hood of a car in the parking garage at 8pm last night" and another person saying, "Oh really? Cause at 8pm last night I saw them at the arcade across town fishing the 425,000th BL Korean Teddy Bear out of a machine."
Then the two people look at each other and say, "Gosh, I wonder how we both misinterpreted that one event?" That's what's wrong with this show.
Oh well...it's not like any of this matters. BAU is another Korean BL I'll forget by next week.
When he looks into the face of the young man he has loved most of his life, we ought to see that in his own face, but we don't. Or I don't. I see pretty much nothing.
Since you're Here For The BL, please let me know if you're watching something good I don't know about. I'm so desperate I'm even open to Thai shows again. The only other BL on my current watchlist is Business As Usual, which is...bad.
Perhaps you're just tired and bored with the BL-watching choices you're making. Don't project that onto everyone else who's just out here having standards. Did you know you can have standards and still have loads of fun? It's true!
Do you mean to imply that the lower your standards, the more "fun" you have? If so, great! Live it! Be it! Enjoy it. No one told you not to do so, and I specifically told you TO do so. Strange.
How desperate of you to bring up Donald Trump. Cuts no ice with me, sister-woman. I didn't vote for the Orange Turd and I hate him and everything he does. I'm guessing wherever you live is a bleeding shithole country, if only because you live there.
Your other insults directed at the U.S. are common, coming from people around the world, such as yourself, who have inferiority complexes toward America. I get it. The U.S. has been the richest economy and most dominant political force world-wide since WW2, nearly 80 years ago. Your "butthurt" about that isn't my problem, either.
"Honeyboo, I met with her multiple times in the past 20 years since I'm a fan of her. I think I know her better than you."
hahahahahahahahahahaha...hoo boy, thanks for the laughs. So your multiple, deep and meaningful chats across an autograph table at fan meets where you slobbered your fangurl worship at your idol, shrieked, and waved your light sticks have made the two of you great friends and gifted you great insight into her character and private life, eh?
Pardon me for a second: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
The most revealing thing about your nonsense here is that I have not once disparaged this woman or claimed to know anything about her. My reference to the possibility that she eats babies, but no one knows because the paps haven't caught her doing it yet, is over your head. Exaggeration and hyperbole are above your pay grade. Going forward, I'll adjust my writing to compensate for that.
Send me a pic of your bedroom decorated in fangurl crap, preferably with you in the foreground with your light sticks and fan hat, making heart signs for the camera. Thanks in advance.
Love triangles have been a staple of drama of all kinds for thousands of years. They only annoy me when they are poorly written, as is this one. None of the "interruptions and cockblocking" going on here feels organic or real; just crammed into the script to get us to whatever clunky, awkward plot point is next.
I'd have dropped this a couple episodes back except that my BL watchlist is bare and I'm desperate. :) I find the guy with Pillow Lips to be pretty, so I look at him a lot. :D
I didn't watch this lame show FOR the cute boys. I only ended up sticking with it to look AT the boys because everything else about this show is lame..."y'all." I made this clear in my post above. Work on English comprehension.
But yeah, after reading your comment, I see now that you're right: this is a great work of art.
Your rant is non-responsive to anything I wrote so I'll stop. I have no idea what the hell you're on about, anyway. "Character growth..." lol
This is far better than expected; I've not had great experiences with Thai cinema in general, but this is good, especially if you're a fan of well-done prison flicks. Hated to see things go down the way they did for Fluke, but the truth is this is far more the reality than the exception in such situations. The actor brought depth and authenticity to what could easily have been a cliche role. Kind of pissed me off how Phueak seemed to blow him off and forget him after they were separated...
I'll have to check out these "4 Kings" flicks. Might not be my thing but after seeing this, they're worth a look.
8.5/10 Points off are for implausibilities and a few lame plot points, such as asking us to see the warden as suddenly a decent person near the end. wtf was that?