Not until they deal with their shit and stop sadistically messing with others. Chian will be right back to trashing F4M and F4M, having zero self-respect, will be there for all of it. It's quite sad, actually.
After all is said and done!! The endgames for our beloved four has happened.This was definitely a favorite series…
How did Chian "come to his senses?" He hinted right at the end at how he would soon be up to his old, sadistic tricks. If recognizing your bad behaviors but resolving to continue them can be considered "coming to your senses," I suppose that's a way of looking at it.
baabin was such an idiot this ep but at least his brain finally worked in the end, i love baabin and bua endgame…
I had hoped for Baabin/F4M endgame, but was OK with how BB/Bau came about. Then, when I saw them together as a couple in the last couple of scenes, I just didn't quite believe the vibe was real. A feeling I have, nothing more.
The most beautiful visual in this show was F4M walking away from __________ near the end. The ugliest visual in this show was _________ walking back into frame AT the end.
This director never makes it easy for me. He tortures, disappoints, frustrates, and angers me. Unfortunately, I am a masochist so I love all the above.
I could spew up all I'm thinking right now in a near-endless rant or I could let this settle and come back later. I choose the latter.
The BEST thing about this show is being able to debate myself to no end regarding who is the best actor on board: F4M, Baabin, or Bua. That is a debate I never have the luxury of entertaining during 99% of BLs.
Thanks, Boss. You're a dick but I love your work. :)
I'm about to start episode 7 so I just rewatched the end of ep 6.
That entire four-way video chat is incredibly neurotic and telling. It made me sad all over again, for all of them. Just the fact that it doesn't occur to any of them that they DO NOT HAVE TO put themselves through any of it. The words "No, I don't owe this to you so I'm out" don't seem to be in these guys' vocabulary. From Chian butting in and Beebin allowing it to F4M sticking around but turning off his camera when things first got psycho, to BeeBin obeying weirdo Chian's order to allow Bua into the chat, to Bua answering Chian's rude command to engage, to him pissing himself, to all the rest..it's depressing.
The power and self-respect these people sacrifice to their absolute NEED to always BE ON; That not one of them thinks "This is bullshit. If I choose to have these interactions I will do so one-on-one at a time of my choosing and in private. Fuck Chian," followed by leaving the chat, is remarkable. They are enslaved to social media and its artificial universe to such a degree that these options don't exist for them. The needless suffering and lack of dignity all-round is upsetting to me.
There is another sad-but-also-funny thing going on here: None of them get how Drama Queen that four-way theatrical production is; how handling this interconnected situation in that manner only intensifies everyone's pain and humiliation, except for Chian of course, who plays the director here, ordering the others around as they submit to his bidding.
I suppose there's an argument to be made that at least this melodramatic confrontation clarified things for everyone, in front of each other, all at once. There is that. However, I suspect things would have gone differently if they had agreed to meet face-to-face in meat-space as you kids say. :)
I am a fossil, so I am perceiving this entire show from a different perspective than most of my fellow commenters. I'm of an age that I lived half my adult life without the Internet and SM before about 2000, and from then to now with it. People younger than me have NO idea how radically the world has been altered in the last 25 years because you grew up IN it. It has always been your natural environment.
I'm grateful the Internet and SM were not around when I went through the hormone-fueled angst and drama of my own teen/20s years. Those things would have made everything 100 times worse and likely, dangerous for me considering my state of mind and emotions at that time.
On the other hand, I often wonder if having the option to reach out to and connect with other closeted, gay kids outside the small, conservative nightmare I grew up in, might have been a path to a happier, less lonely life. Given my self-destructive tendencies and general fondness for the dark side of things however, may have led to my connecting with unsavory and predatory people. I'll never know.
In truth, I often feel glad of being exactly the age I am regarding this because witnessing the explosion of tech, internet, social media, AI, all of it, has been an awesome and entertaining spectacle. I mean...wow. You have no idea. Also, I am glad I will be dead before it all gets worse, as AI takes over, first ruling over humanity and then destroying it. :D
I smile, but I'm not at all confident that's a joking matter.
Pretty good film ruined by some unoriginal writing, at least one implausible character change, and an absurd ending.
Loved: The acting, especially from the four principals. MLs are especially good, as they always are. Spectacular. The young wife and mother turned out to be something entirely different than what I lazily assumed her to be at the beginning. The change in my view of her was a standout feature of the film. (Teach me to make assumptions based on the thousand films I've seen before!) :D The daughter was not written or acted as a cliche, but as someone who masks her true self convincingly, undercutting more assumptions I'd made. Cinematography/music/production is nice.
Didn't love: The first half hour during which there was some cheese. Presence of many tropes such as hysterical wife/mother, senile grandmother, bratty rich kid sociopath, etc. The not-believable 180-degree turn in a major character's core values. Poorly written.
I hate that the presence of even a few major flaws can wreck a film but that's what they did for me. Well, I still recommend this but it's not a must-see by any means.
Thanks for this: I was about to start watching this but, just like you, I hate this "I'm the mother so I can do…
It's not a "trope." It's an actual, real attitude that exists to this day among many people in the so-called conservative Asian countries and elsewhere. More often than not, this "trope," when encountered in real life, is supported by society and the law. If the only movies you watch are those that don't confront you with hard realities and ask you to think, then this one's above you anyway.
I just tried to re-watch this. I don't know what happened between eight months ago when I watched it (this re-worked edition) for the first time (if you're interested you can see my enthusiastic comment a few places below this one) and now, but it's bad. I raised my rating from 4/10 to 8.5/10.
I must have been on drugs eight months ago. I'm dropping this 25 minutes in because I remember now how silly/stupid the whole thing is. It belongs on the second or third tier of BLs, which are made with mindless fujoshi fangirls and boys in mind. It's the type of thing that can be enjoyed only if you lower standards for coherence/acting/writing/pretty much everything.
My guess is that eight months ago I was so shocked at how much better this was than the first version of this mess, I gave it that 8.5/10 rating while still in that frame of mind. Well, that psychosis has worn off. This is a joke. I rated the first go-round a 4/10. This gets a 5/10.
When is a smart director going to break Jed into the big time? He's a potentially great actor. I get sick of seeing lesser talents being promoted while Jed sits on the sidelines.
If ep 2 from 27:21 onward into ep 3 doesn't count, I don't know what will. Bare shoulders? Serious steam? :D
hmmm...it's been eight months since I watched this and I don't recall what you're talking about so I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip. What I DO remember is both of them in sweatshirts and pants under quilts in bed together like they were at a slumber party.
My overall memory of this special edition has been tainted by the first train wreck version to the point I have an extremely negative opinion of WBLFMS even after this edition, which I had completely forgotten. So encountering your reply gives me reason to give it another go. Thanks for that. :)
Season 1 is on my Best BLs list. Maybe this one will end up there too after a re-watch. :D
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That's what the sequel will be for. :D
To me, this has SEQUEL written all over it.
F4M, as much as I like him, is sadly self-destructive and insecure.
The most beautiful visual in this show was F4M walking away from __________ near the end.
The ugliest visual in this show was _________ walking back into frame AT the end.
This director never makes it easy for me. He tortures, disappoints, frustrates, and angers me.
Unfortunately, I am a masochist so I love all the above.
I could spew up all I'm thinking right now in a near-endless rant or I could let this settle and come back later. I choose the latter.
The BEST thing about this show is being able to debate myself to no end regarding who is the best actor on board: F4M, Baabin, or Bua. That is a debate I never have the luxury of entertaining during 99% of BLs.
Thanks, Boss. You're a dick but I love your work. :)
That entire four-way video chat is incredibly neurotic and telling. It made me sad all over again, for all of them.
Just the fact that it doesn't occur to any of them that they DO NOT HAVE TO put themselves through any of it. The words "No, I don't owe this to you so I'm out" don't seem to be in these guys' vocabulary. From Chian butting in and Beebin allowing it to F4M sticking around but turning off his camera when things first got psycho, to BeeBin obeying weirdo Chian's order to allow Bua into the chat, to Bua answering Chian's rude command to engage, to him pissing himself, to all the rest..it's depressing.
The power and self-respect these people sacrifice to their absolute NEED to always BE ON; That not one of them thinks "This is bullshit. If I choose to have these interactions I will do so one-on-one at a time of my choosing and in private. Fuck Chian," followed by leaving the chat, is remarkable. They are enslaved to social media and its artificial universe to such a degree that these options don't exist for them. The needless suffering and lack of dignity all-round is upsetting to me.
There is another sad-but-also-funny thing going on here: None of them get how Drama Queen that four-way theatrical production is; how handling this interconnected situation in that manner only intensifies everyone's pain and humiliation, except for Chian of course, who plays the director here, ordering the others around as they submit to his bidding.
I suppose there's an argument to be made that at least this melodramatic confrontation clarified things for everyone, in front of each other, all at once. There is that. However, I suspect things would have gone differently if they had agreed to meet face-to-face in meat-space as you kids say. :)
I am a fossil, so I am perceiving this entire show from a different perspective than most of my fellow commenters. I'm of an age that I lived half my adult life without the Internet and SM before about 2000, and from then to now with it. People younger than me have NO idea how radically the world has been altered in the last 25 years because you grew up IN it. It has always been your natural environment.
I'm grateful the Internet and SM were not around when I went through the hormone-fueled angst and drama of my own teen/20s years. Those things would have made everything 100 times worse and likely, dangerous for me considering my state of mind and emotions at that time.
On the other hand, I often wonder if having the option to reach out to and connect with other closeted, gay kids outside the small, conservative nightmare I grew up in, might have been a path to a happier, less lonely life. Given my self-destructive tendencies and general fondness for the dark side of things however, may have led to my connecting with unsavory and predatory people. I'll never know.
In truth, I often feel glad of being exactly the age I am regarding this because witnessing the explosion of tech, internet, social media, AI, all of it, has been an awesome and entertaining spectacle. I mean...wow. You have no idea. Also, I am glad I will be dead before it all gets worse, as AI takes over, first ruling over humanity and then destroying it. :D
I smile, but I'm not at all confident that's a joking matter.
On to episode 7!
It's telling you hid this rant behind a spoiler tag.
I repeat my suggestion above.
Best of luck.
Loved:
The acting, especially from the four principals. MLs are especially good, as they always are. Spectacular.
The young wife and mother turned out to be something entirely different than what I lazily assumed her to be at the beginning. The change in my view of her was a standout feature of the film. (Teach me to make assumptions based on the thousand films I've seen before!) :D
The daughter was not written or acted as a cliche, but as someone who masks her true self convincingly, undercutting more assumptions I'd made.
Cinematography/music/production is nice.
Didn't love:
The first half hour during which there was some cheese.
Presence of many tropes such as hysterical wife/mother, senile grandmother, bratty rich kid sociopath, etc.
The not-believable 180-degree turn in a major character's core values. Poorly written.
I hate that the presence of even a few major flaws can wreck a film but that's what they did for me. Well, I still recommend this but it's not a must-see by any means.
7.5/10
I wish you well.
I don't know what happened between eight months ago when I watched it (this re-worked edition) for the first time (if you're interested you can see my enthusiastic comment a few places below this one) and now, but it's bad. I raised my rating from 4/10 to 8.5/10.
I must have been on drugs eight months ago.
I'm dropping this 25 minutes in because I remember now how silly/stupid the whole thing is. It belongs on the second or third tier of BLs, which are made with mindless fujoshi fangirls and boys in mind. It's the type of thing that can be enjoyed only if you lower standards for coherence/acting/writing/pretty much everything.
My guess is that eight months ago I was so shocked at how much better this was than the first version of this mess, I gave it that 8.5/10 rating while still in that frame of mind. Well, that psychosis has worn off. This is a joke. I rated the first go-round a 4/10. This gets a 5/10.
Embarrassing
5/10
Keep at it, Jed. Fighting!!!
My overall memory of this special edition has been tainted by the first train wreck version to the point I have an extremely negative opinion of WBLFMS even after this edition, which I had completely forgotten. So encountering your reply gives me reason to give it another go. Thanks for that. :)
Season 1 is on my Best BLs list. Maybe this one will end up there too after a re-watch. :D