First off, dismissing the entire drama after one episode is just ridiculous. You’re acting like one imperfect…
You think you're deeply intelligent and discerning. You're not. You're an excuse machine for lazy BL writing, nothing more. You accept lazy/bad/uncreative productions because you are a lazy-minded viewer, desperate to justify whatever's placed before them if it has a BL tag.
I don't lower my standards much just because something has a BL label. You do. You're condescending. I'm not.
I have seen and loved many BLs. I have a list of 30 of the best; almost none of which contain trip/fall/catches or other lame cliches unless they are in the earliest BLs, fish kisses, hair adjustments, bad acting/directing/costuming, etc.
Gaping collars, poorly-knotted ties, un-pressed shirts and a dozen other problems are not the result of a costumer showing an oversized look as a style choice, it is the result of sloppiness and inattentiveness. I dare you to tell me a wrinkled, bunched-up, gaping collar is a "designer" styling choice. Even better, you're asserting this sloppy costuming work is part of a deep, psychological message being sent by the writer/director/show. hahaha
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"... and oh, everyone is gay""I'd hope for an affair between the two but our screenwriter is clearly not that…
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This is kind of where I am at the end of episode 2.The show is badly written/acted/directed/costumed/etc. but…
Well, it's not just oversized, it's poorly-fitted. In other words, they pulled something off the rack meant for a much larger guy but didn't tailor it to his body. Two of the jackets had clumps of excess cloth around the neck/over the shoulders as a result. These details always leap out at me so it's distracting. Thing is, this is not a bare-bottom budget show, so the costumer is not doing their job and should be canned.
As for the acting, I actually think the Goofball nice one is not doing a bad job. The other three...please. But that's me. You do you. :)
Episode 2:omg...did anyone else LOL when his nose bled at the beginning? "Help, someone, anyone! I just saw my…
Well can't agree about the acting being good, but your comment was fun to read. :) I'm back next week for these twisted psychos and to see how they got this way. Thing is, I've a feeling that's not going to really play out as believable...WAY too often BL writers, especially women BL writers, come up with the lamest reasons on Earth why guys make bizarre decisions or do 180s in their characterizations, the most common one being "I loved you so much I wanted you to be happy so I left you without telling you why or saying goodbye so that could make you happy by making you miserable...or something something something...and oh by the way, I have to study abroad now for ten years. When I return I will act like it's strange that you're avoiding me. Like, chill, OK?"
OH I'm absolutely seated for this messy type of bl drama. i'm glad KBL industry is finally taking a step forward…
I agree about the exciting fucked-upness of it all, but it is SO badly written, acted, directed, etc....I was going to drop it until near the end of ep 2 when it became clear how deeply evil and psycho the Twins are. Now I have to see at least one more episode. I live for twisted shit.
This is some crazy toxic mess going on here. Only the first two episodes and I know we are in for a roller coasterride.…
This is kind of where I am at the end of episode 2. The show is badly written/acted/directed/costumed/etc. but now that I saw how horrendously messed up the Pencil Necks are I have to come back for at least one more try.
As for your family...lol. I wish I was like you. I'm a codependent, drama-addicted type by nature who thrives (or thinks he does) on such insanity. I know that about myself now and avoid such messes, but it took me 38 years and much subsequent therapy to begin to get a clue as to that side of myself. :P
Episode 2:HOLY SHIT. Wow. These characters are deeply, appallingly fucked up. This could be an awesome plot if…
Episode 2: omg...did anyone else LOL when his nose bled at the beginning? "Help, someone, anyone! I just saw my crush with a pencil-necked Yakuza and I'm suffering a spontaneous brain aneurysm!"
Why was everyone at the coffee shop staring at the cock-teaser? If you write a character as drop-dead gorgeous, please hire an appropriately hot actor. Oh, and he's a liar ("I'm at school..."). Good to know.
Why do BL dudes, especially in Korea, so often meet at coffee shops to talk, then walk out, leaving their untouched beverages behind?
The cock-teaser and the Yakuza look disconcertingly alike...an incest subplot...?
Cute niece = "See? He's really not a bad guy..." lol
Pharmacist: "But...these are for hemorrhoids." Goofball: "That's cool. We'll need them later in the story."
Woman office worker: "Hey everybody! Some crazy dude's freaking out in the lobby! Let's all leave work and go stare at him!"
Post-lobby scene cliches: Horrible people snubbing him and tsk-tsking right behind his back. Horrible co-workers looking RIGHT AT HIM and gossiping/snickering in his face. Coworkers immediately starting a group chat THEY KNOW HE CAN READ to gossip and trash him with the most absurdly cliche'd mean Korean netizen snark imaginable. "I should have known, since he wears 'designer...'" lol Designer, my ass. Those clothes are ten sizes too big.
When RedLips wiped the rice kernel off Goofball's lips, is it just me or did GB c*m in his pants?
CockTease is creepily manipulative of RedLips. Giving his gambling addict dad $$$? Paying for his sister's expenses? Smoothing his hair/touching his cheek as if humoring a child.? Those are things you do if you want to keep someone off balance...EVIL.
All characters: Please block numbers of people you don't want texts or calls from. All characters: Please don't answer the phone when you don't want to answer the phone.
CockTease: "He punches me in the face. He smashes wine bottles on my head. Should I get back together with him...?" lol
HOLY SHIT. CockTease is a real psycho! "Manipulative" doesn't do him justice. Wow. These characters are deeply, appallingly fucked up. This could be an awesome plot if it were well-written, acted, directed, costumed, and not full of tropes/cliches/LOLs.
lol...omg, why did he just faint? hahaha Oh, that's right. He got wet in the rain so naturally he almost died. My bad.
Wow. These characters are deeply, appallingly fucked up. This could be an awesome plot if it were well-written, acted, directed, costumed, and not full of tropes/cliches/LOLs.
Nevertheless, the two Pencil Necks are scary-messed up and this is the type of disturbing shit I live for. I'll be back for more.
Meanwhile...behind the spoiler button below is my first episode running commentary. Doing this is the only way I could think of to keep watching without slashing my wrists. And it worked! I'm alive.
Please proceed at your own risk. Massive and numerous spoilers this way lay:
Episode 1: Sigh...my life is one disappointment after another. The only three countries I hope for decent BLs out of are Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. Just lately, I've suffered through two lousy Taiwanese shows, and now Korea is letting me down too.
So far, nothing but tropes, cliches, mid-to-bad acting, ill-fitting clothing (shoot the costumer, please), red lipstick (apparently, what has been saved on white face powder-unblended at the jawline-is being spent on lipstick here), stock characters, and oh, everyone is gay. I see that the screenwriter is a first-time fujoshi-scribe slumming in BL world. She must have watched about 200 (Thai) BLs before putting fingers to keyboard though, and copied everything she saw into this script. How do such people get hired for such jobs?
Almost as annoying as the wrinkled shirt collars loosely orbiting pencil-necked clavicles, and sport coats that appear to have been snatched from a professional Sumo wrestler's closet, is the fact that three of four mains are douchebags. In the first episode.
One rewards a kind gentleman for saving him from being obliterated by a motorized kick-scooter (naturally, approaching at 5mph max from 20 ft. away, yet neither pedestrian nor rider had time to avoid the other, as is customary in BL land) by cursing and insulting him. The watch was broken (watches, especially supposedly top-drawer watches like this one supposedly is, do not break this easily) due to the ungrateful jerk not paying attention to where he was going, not by a nice guy trying to save his ass.
Another one has been cock-teasing and leading on the first one, pretending not to know he is doing so, for ELEVEN YEARS. Enough said.
A third one, who is evil, mean, and laughably unconvincing as a smoker, exists to torture the first and second ones but in two different ways. And again, what's with the pencil necks?
Only the goofy, life-saver is potentially likable, but it's borderline.
All of this rests at the feet of the director of course, who wisely prevented their photograph from appearing in this page's credits. This person needs to be hunted down and run out of the business.
Thank god for the grandmother and the office manager, two actors I have seen and liked elsewhere. I'd hope for an affair between the two but our screenwriter is clearly not that creative.
Let's see if this improves in episode 2...god help us...
There is a new Korean BL that started today called Secret Relationships. Maybe give this one a try. https://kisskh.at/723559-secret-relationship
Oh my gosh, I had this on my PTW list but forgot. Thanks for the reminder. Very cool to see that Ahn Ji Ho, who is fairly well known, is starring in this.
I will be eternally confused with Korea being overtly conservative and still producing a lot of BL content. How…
Don't forget, Korea is supposedly overtly conservative, but kpop has reigned for nearly 20 years, and the little girls dance around in their panties and pasties onstage, while (gay) boys prance around in makeup/pink hair in incredibly homoerotic videos but yeah, ,Korea meanwhile, is "conservative."
On a related note, I watch LOTS of Korean feature films; all my fave features are out of Korea. Anyway, there are a great many Korean movies going back as far as 2000, with the most semi-explicit sex scenes I have ever seen in film. I'm jaded af and the flicks that have dropped even my jaw showing famous mainstream actors/actresses going at it stark-naked, asses, tits, and bush everywhere (of course no dicks, unfortunately), are all Korean, with a few Japanese ones here and there. But yeah...Korea tells us it's "conservative."
I love Korean movies/BL/some music, but the culture/society is deeply messed up and hypocritical. Which is why Korea has the highest rates of suicide and alcoholism in the developed world. The mixed messages drives everyone insane. As a gay dude, I'd have killed myself long ago if I had grown up there. It's hard enough still to be gay in the U.S. I can't imagine how bad it is for Koreans, though it's improving rapidly.
You accept lazy/bad/uncreative productions because you are a lazy-minded viewer, desperate to justify whatever's placed before them if it has a BL tag.
I don't lower my standards much just because something has a BL label. You do. You're condescending. I'm not.
I have seen and loved many BLs. I have a list of 30 of the best; almost none of which contain trip/fall/catches or other lame cliches unless they are in the earliest BLs, fish kisses, hair adjustments, bad acting/directing/costuming, etc.
Gaping collars, poorly-knotted ties, un-pressed shirts and a dozen other problems are not the result of a costumer showing an oversized look as a style choice, it is the result of sloppiness and inattentiveness. I dare you to tell me a wrinkled, bunched-up, gaping collar is a "designer" styling choice. Even better, you're asserting this sloppy costuming work is part of a deep, psychological message being sent by the writer/director/show. hahaha
Anyway...I'm a bot, automated response system, so you probably shouldn't waste time responding.
Since you used quote marks, which mean things, please point out the quote where I said any show anywhere was "too gay." Your doing so will improve my algorithm. Thank you.
As for the acting, I actually think the Goofball nice one is not doing a bad job. The other three...please. But that's me. You do you. :)
The show is badly written/acted/directed/costumed/etc. but now that I saw how horrendously messed up the Pencil Necks are I have to come back for at least one more try.
As for your family...lol. I wish I was like you. I'm a codependent, drama-addicted type by nature who thrives (or thinks he does) on such insanity. I know that about myself now and avoid such messes, but it took me 38 years and much subsequent therapy to begin to get a clue as to that side of myself. :P
omg...did anyone else LOL when his nose bled at the beginning? "Help, someone, anyone! I just saw my crush with a pencil-necked Yakuza and I'm suffering a spontaneous brain aneurysm!"
Why was everyone at the coffee shop staring at the cock-teaser? If you write a character as drop-dead gorgeous, please hire an appropriately hot actor. Oh, and he's a liar ("I'm at school..."). Good to know.
Why do BL dudes, especially in Korea, so often meet at coffee shops to talk, then walk out, leaving their untouched beverages behind?
The cock-teaser and the Yakuza look disconcertingly alike...an incest subplot...?
Cute niece = "See? He's really not a bad guy..." lol
Pharmacist: "But...these are for hemorrhoids." Goofball: "That's cool. We'll need them later in the story."
Woman office worker: "Hey everybody! Some crazy dude's freaking out in the lobby! Let's all leave work and go stare at him!"
Post-lobby scene cliches:
Horrible people snubbing him and tsk-tsking right behind his back.
Horrible co-workers looking RIGHT AT HIM and gossiping/snickering in his face.
Coworkers immediately starting a group chat THEY KNOW HE CAN READ to gossip and trash him with the most absurdly cliche'd mean Korean netizen snark imaginable. "I should have known, since he wears 'designer...'" lol Designer, my ass. Those clothes are ten sizes too big.
When RedLips wiped the rice kernel off Goofball's lips, is it just me or did GB c*m in his pants?
CockTease is creepily manipulative of RedLips. Giving his gambling addict dad $$$? Paying for his sister's expenses? Smoothing his hair/touching his cheek as if humoring a child.? Those are things you do if you want to keep someone off balance...EVIL.
All characters: Please block numbers of people you don't want texts or calls from.
All characters: Please don't answer the phone when you don't want to answer the phone.
CockTease: "He punches me in the face. He smashes wine bottles on my head. Should I get back together with him...?" lol
HOLY SHIT. CockTease is a real psycho! "Manipulative" doesn't do him justice. Wow. These characters are deeply, appallingly fucked up. This could be an awesome plot if it were well-written, acted, directed, costumed, and not full of tropes/cliches/LOLs.
lol...omg, why did he just faint? hahaha Oh, that's right. He got wet in the rain so naturally he almost died. My bad.
Thus concludes episode 2's running commentary.
HOLY SHIT.
Wow. These characters are deeply, appallingly fucked up. This could be an awesome plot if it were well-written, acted, directed, costumed, and not full of tropes/cliches/LOLs.
Nevertheless, the two Pencil Necks are scary-messed up and this is the type of disturbing shit I live for. I'll be back for more.
Meanwhile...behind the spoiler button below is my first episode running commentary. Doing this is the only way I could think of to keep watching without slashing my wrists. And it worked! I'm alive.
Please proceed at your own risk.
Massive and numerous spoilers this way lay:
Sigh...my life is one disappointment after another.
The only three countries I hope for decent BLs out of are Korea, Japan, and Taiwan.
Just lately, I've suffered through two lousy Taiwanese shows, and now Korea is letting me down too.
So far, nothing but tropes, cliches, mid-to-bad acting, ill-fitting clothing (shoot the costumer, please), red lipstick (apparently, what has been saved on white face powder-unblended at the jawline-is being spent on lipstick here), stock characters, and oh, everyone is gay. I see that the screenwriter is a first-time fujoshi-scribe slumming in BL world. She must have watched about 200 (Thai) BLs before putting fingers to keyboard though, and copied everything she saw into this script. How do such people get hired for such jobs?
Almost as annoying as the wrinkled shirt collars loosely orbiting pencil-necked clavicles, and sport coats that appear to have been snatched from a professional Sumo wrestler's closet, is the fact that three of four mains are douchebags. In the first episode.
One rewards a kind gentleman for saving him from being obliterated by a motorized kick-scooter (naturally, approaching at 5mph max from 20 ft. away, yet neither pedestrian nor rider had time to avoid the other, as is customary in BL land) by cursing and insulting him. The watch was broken (watches, especially supposedly top-drawer watches like this one supposedly is, do not break this easily) due to the ungrateful jerk not paying attention to where he was going, not by a nice guy trying to save his ass.
Another one has been cock-teasing and leading on the first one, pretending not to know he is doing so, for ELEVEN YEARS. Enough said.
A third one, who is evil, mean, and laughably unconvincing as a smoker, exists to torture the first and second ones but in two different ways. And again, what's with the pencil necks?
Only the goofy, life-saver is potentially likable, but it's borderline.
All of this rests at the feet of the director of course, who wisely prevented their photograph from appearing in this page's credits. This person needs to be hunted down and run out of the business.
Thank god for the grandmother and the office manager, two actors I have seen and liked elsewhere. I'd hope for an affair between the two but our screenwriter is clearly not that creative.
Let's see if this improves in episode 2...god help us...
On a related note, I watch LOTS of Korean feature films; all my fave features are out of Korea. Anyway, there are a great many Korean movies going back as far as 2000, with the most semi-explicit sex scenes I have ever seen in film. I'm jaded af and the flicks that have dropped even my jaw showing famous mainstream actors/actresses going at it stark-naked, asses, tits, and bush everywhere (of course no dicks, unfortunately), are all Korean, with a few Japanese ones here and there. But yeah...Korea tells us it's "conservative."
I love Korean movies/BL/some music, but the culture/society is deeply messed up and hypocritical. Which is why Korea has the highest rates of suicide and alcoholism in the developed world. The mixed messages drives everyone insane. As a gay dude, I'd have killed myself long ago if I had grown up there. It's hard enough still to be gay in the U.S. I can't imagine how bad it is for Koreans, though it's improving rapidly.
Turds Out Of ThaiLand and their new companion category, Turds Out Of TaiWan!
Joking aside, I'm bummed that now I'm losing Taiwan out of three countries (Korea and Japan) I could hope for at least occasionally good BLs out of.