Kenshin, my man, hang in there. Hundreds of thousands of fans love and adore you. I admire your acting talent and look forward to you resuming your career after this witch hunt is over with.
You gave me many wonderful, touching moments of drama and humor during my watch of "Our Youth." I have five good friends who watched it along with me and love your talent and charisma. We are Americans, and you have a lot of fans over here. Come to America! Everyone gets second, third, and fourth chances.
I know this period is hard af for you, but you WILL survive. Hold tight to those who love and care about you. Let them support you and surround you with affection.
I don’t just want a BL (Boys' Love) to be about a simple love story anymore. These days, audiences expect more…
That's fine, that's great; I don't necessarily disagree with any of it, except that "BL" has a fairly specific meaning. To me, what you're talking about are gay-themed dramas and films, of which I watch as many as I can find, and of which there quite a few already. I can provide you with a lot of titles, if you're interested. Everything from straightforward romances to yakuza stuff to legal themes, prison, counter-culture, political intrigue, you name it.
I'm not getting why you seem to be insisting on shoehorning the BL label onto gay-themed films and series, which is what it sounds like this is. I dropped this in the first episode because of the silliness I saw but, at the recommendation of two of my trusted MDL friends, I'm going to take it up again. I'll be showing up in comments again after two or three episodes.
Who are these "audiences" you speak for? Please tell them that everything they are wanting to see is already out there in the form of gay-themed series and films. Or, you can call this a BL and I can call it a gay-themed series, and that's fine too.
Curious: Why do accept as fact that he did what he has only at this point been ACCUSED of?
Oh, I absolutely WILL support him, from long before I heard about this latest nonsense, silly accusation until the day he is exonerated at trial.
What sick society do you live in where people are "guilty until proven innocent," which is exactly ass-backwards from both a moral and a political viewpoint. If you don't already live there, please move to Russia, China, or maybe Iran. They'll be glad to accuse you of something you never did, and toss you in the slammer or shoot you before you know what's going on.
Until it is proven that there was a crime, there is no "victim." There is only an accuser who claims something happened, nothing more. It infuriates me that KK's agency has already kicked him out of his group and fired him as a represented artist, all based on the word of some person who could very well be lying. And of "inappropriate touching," at that! I hope that, after he is found not guilty of this charge, that he sues the living shit out of his agency and this young woman. I am sick to death of people equating someone "touching" them with "sexual assault," as if it's all the same thing, from rape too blowing someone an unwanted kiss across the room. Is that sexual assault as well?
I am also sick to death of the law and people like you treating women as helpless, little children, totally incapable of dealing with anything, even someone "inappropriately touching" their arm or fingernail. What happened to throwing a drink in a dude's face and slapping the shit out of him? Now, young women are encouraged to run to the police or file a lawsuit instead. It is completely out of control.
But again, we don't know if ANYTHING happened. This is not difficult to understand.
I won't waste any more time on you, however. You're obviously a silly little Jnetz, Knetz, Tnetz, or Cnetz who gets her thrills out of destroying celebrities' careers, reputations, and lives. Yes, lives. Do you have any idea how many Asian entertainers have been driven to suicide by the kind of self-righteous stupidity you are spewing? Dozens and dozens over the last 25 years, that's how many. Will you be proud of yourself when Kamimura kills himself out of despair caused by psychotic haters like you?
Worry about your own morals and behavior. When that's perfect, then you can start criticizing others for alleged crimes you haven't the slightest idea whether they committed or not. Worst of all, you don't care.
Episode 10: Well...that was agony. My eyes hurt from crying for 45 minutes.
Boom is the most naturalistic actor/weeper I have seen in Thai BL/Cinema, perhaps in all of Asia, but he never overdoes it. I see a character experiencing feelings from which the tears naturally flow. He had me by the gut thru this episode. I never see him "acting." This is a remarkable gift, and he has trained it well. It's more remarkable yet to see this level of talent and professionalism in Thai BL, of all places. Bravo.
The actress who plays Grandma is lovely and authentic as well. That loving smile made me want to be her grandson.
This is the first episode I haven't jumped forward through since #2.
I don't watch Kdramas though, so I've not seen most of his work. I wish this was something other than the I've-come-back-from-the-underworld-to-avenge-blah blah blah stuff, but because he is in it, I will give it a shot. Glad to see Netflix paying attention to SJS again.
I was attacked on Quora by crazy people who've judged and sentenced the poor lad based on nothing but fantastic…
Well said! I agree one hundred percent.
You asked "what in the world is this. "This" is the exact same, psycho/hateful/sadistic, Puritanical, maniacal Knetz/media/culture behavior that I call the Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine, which has claimed DOZENS of celebrities dead by suicide over the last 25 years.
I have been a mega-fan of Korean movies and a teeny bit of Kpop for about five years now. During that time, I became increasingly aware of, and appalled by, the number of Korean entertainers who have killed themselves over the last quarter-century, and the combined forces of Korean law enforcement/media/Knetz/Puritanical cultural attitudes that led to those deaths. It is nothing short of ghastly and nearly unbelievable.
What you encountered on Quora is the KCSM in all its bloodthirsty ugliness. These Knetz psychos would never admit it, but they LOVE when a celeb takes their own life because they think that's what they deserve. Knetz think celebrities OWE them big-time for having achieved success and stardom; and part of what they think they are owed is perfect/flawless private and professional lives. There is nothing that is not watched for any sign of human frailty, upon which the Knetz pounce like the vultures they are.
What you see on Quora is the Knetz tearing KSH apart, bits of flesh at a time, and loving every second of it. To them, it is a game, a form of entertainment; and they are bizarrely determined in their quest to kill him off.
But, for once, in KSH we have a celeb who is fighting back HARD, with his own army of lawyers who are filling lawsuits and holding press conferences to expose the crazy, mendacious antics of the Youtube weirdos and the god-awful family of Kim Sae Ron, and doing this in real time.
I am sure KSH is suffering mightily in private, but I certainly hope he holds it together and survives this, because the tragic and unfair truth is that, no matter how thoroughly all of these accusations are shown to be false, the Korean public, the entertainment industry, and production companies will almost certainly cancel him anyway.
There will never be a time when the press will stop mentioning this "scandal" before his name in headlines, even after it is all shown to be bullshit. In Korea, once you are "embroiled in scandal," it makes no difference whether there is any truth to the scandal, you are done.
The above is why the recent success of Yoo Ah In's film, The Match, both in theatres and on Netflix after his release from jail and the last two years of media and law enforcement torture, is so important. It shows a crack in the great Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. I hope that crack keeps widening until the whole thing falls apart and Korea begins to mature away from its backward, Puritanical cultural attitudes.
Can you imagine if any of these Knetz were publicly held to the same standards they hold celebs to? lol They would all be destroyed, imprisoned, or banished from polite society. I despise them.
On edit: I was not greatly aware of KSH either, until this manufactured media feeding frenzy began. I watch almost no Kdramas, and that is the medium from which his greatest fame derives. However, I did see his 2013 film, "Secretly Greatly" about three years ago and found him and the movie hysterically funny. It is on my top 30 best films list. I have watched it three times, and I don't rewatch films unless I love them. So, despite not having seen most of his work, I've been well aware of who he is and how talented he is. I appreciate the laughter he brought into my life. :)
I know no one here probably wants to hear this, but it's a real thing so I will throw it out there anyway.
As I watched The Match, I kept thinking how puffy-faced and unhealthy Yoo looked. It is the same, swollen, unwell look he had in the Netflix series "Alive." Then, I checked the shooting schedule for this film: December 2020-July, 2021. This film is FOUR years old, which means Yoo was in the midst of his suffering from severe insomnia, and addictions to sleeping pills and Propofol. OF COURSE, he looks unwell; he WAS unwell.
I haven't seen a photo of him since his release from jail. If anyone who reads this has seen one, please post a link in reply to this comment. I would love to see him looking healthy and fresh-faced, since he has been in treatment for so long. I just tried to find one online, and was unsuccessful.
I am an alcoholic, sober 25 years now. (Yay!!) I looked like holy hell when I staggered into recovery, but within two weeks, I began to look like an entirely different person. People who saw me come in and then two or three weeks later were like, "omg, is this you?!" It was a wonderful response to get; so encouraging. I know Yoo must look like such a vigorous, glowing version of his real self by now and I'd love to see that. I wish for him a long, healthy, and happy recovery, lasting him the rest of his days. There are few more rewarding accomplishments, nor greater gifts than sobriety after a long period of addiction.
Just watched the trailer on Netflix and Yoo Ah In isn't even shown in it! It's crazy how they're trying to diminish…
I agree, the trailer is stupid and annoying, but his presence is not diminished at all in the film itself. It continues to piss me off that Netflix continues to kowtow to punitive, Puritanical notions out of Korea. This film is out to the entire world now. Who cares what a tiny minority of Knetz within the tiny country of Korea think? I don't get it.
Did you see this with your own eyes??? Or do you believe the channel that was just accused of blackmail by the…
It was not stated as an opinion, but as though it were an established fact. Calling someone a pedophile, when they have not been proven to be any such thing, is slander. It is a personal attack. I don't know why MDL has not removed the comment; it removed many other, similar ones I reported.
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You gave me many wonderful, touching moments of drama and humor during my watch of "Our Youth." I have five good friends who watched it along with me and love your talent and charisma. We are Americans, and you have a lot of fans over here. Come to America! Everyone gets second, third, and fourth chances.
I know this period is hard af for you, but you WILL survive. Hold tight to those who love and care about you. Let them support you and surround you with affection.
All my best, from an American fan.
I'm not getting why you seem to be insisting on shoehorning the BL label onto gay-themed films and series, which is what it sounds like this is. I dropped this in the first episode because of the silliness I saw but, at the recommendation of two of my trusted MDL friends, I'm going to take it up again. I'll be showing up in comments again after two or three episodes.
Who are these "audiences" you speak for? Please tell them that everything they are wanting to see is already out there in the form of gay-themed series and films. Or, you can call this a BL and I can call it a gay-themed series, and that's fine too.
Let me know if you want those titles.
Meanwhile, enjoy the show!
What sick society do you live in where people are "guilty until proven innocent," which is exactly ass-backwards from both a moral and a political viewpoint. If you don't already live there, please move to Russia, China, or maybe Iran. They'll be glad to accuse you of something you never did, and toss you in the slammer or shoot you before you know what's going on.
Until it is proven that there was a crime, there is no "victim." There is only an accuser who claims something happened, nothing more. It infuriates me that KK's agency has already kicked him out of his group and fired him as a represented artist, all based on the word of some person who could very well be lying. And of "inappropriate touching," at that! I hope that, after he is found not guilty of this charge, that he sues the living shit out of his agency and this young woman. I am sick to death of people equating someone "touching" them with "sexual assault," as if it's all the same thing, from rape too blowing someone an unwanted kiss across the room. Is that sexual assault as well?
I am also sick to death of the law and people like you treating women as helpless, little children, totally incapable of dealing with anything, even someone "inappropriately touching" their arm or fingernail. What happened to throwing a drink in a dude's face and slapping the shit out of him? Now, young women are encouraged to run to the police or file a lawsuit instead. It is completely out of control.
But again, we don't know if ANYTHING happened. This is not difficult to understand.
I won't waste any more time on you, however. You're obviously a silly little Jnetz, Knetz, Tnetz, or Cnetz who gets her thrills out of destroying celebrities' careers, reputations, and lives. Yes, lives. Do you have any idea how many Asian entertainers have been driven to suicide by the kind of self-righteous stupidity you are spewing? Dozens and dozens over the last 25 years, that's how many. Will you be proud of yourself when Kamimura kills himself out of despair caused by psychotic haters like you?
Worry about your own morals and behavior. When that's perfect, then you can start criticizing others for alleged crimes you haven't the slightest idea whether they committed or not. Worst of all, you don't care.
In other words, grow up.
Boom is the most naturalistic actor/weeper I have seen in Thai BL/Cinema, perhaps in all of Asia, but he never overdoes it. I see a character experiencing feelings from which the tears naturally flow.
He had me by the gut thru this episode. I never see him "acting." This is a remarkable gift, and he has trained it well.
It's more remarkable yet to see this level of talent and professionalism in Thai BL, of all places.
Bravo.
The actress who plays Grandma is lovely and authentic as well. That loving smile made me want to be her grandson.
This is the first episode I haven't jumped forward through since #2.
I don't watch Kdramas though, so I've not seen most of his work. I wish this was something other than the I've-come-back-from-the-underworld-to-avenge-blah blah blah stuff, but because he is in it, I will give it a shot. Glad to see Netflix paying attention to SJS again.
You asked "what in the world is this. "This" is the exact same, psycho/hateful/sadistic, Puritanical, maniacal Knetz/media/culture behavior that I call the Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine, which has claimed DOZENS of celebrities dead by suicide over the last 25 years.
I have been a mega-fan of Korean movies and a teeny bit of Kpop for about five years now. During that time, I became increasingly aware of, and appalled by, the number of Korean entertainers who have killed themselves over the last quarter-century, and the combined forces of Korean law enforcement/media/Knetz/Puritanical cultural attitudes that led to those deaths. It is nothing short of ghastly and nearly unbelievable.
What you encountered on Quora is the KCSM in all its bloodthirsty ugliness. These Knetz psychos would never admit it, but they LOVE when a celeb takes their own life because they think that's what they deserve. Knetz think celebrities OWE them big-time for having achieved success and stardom; and part of what they think they are owed is perfect/flawless private and professional lives. There is nothing that is not watched for any sign of human frailty, upon which the Knetz pounce like the vultures they are.
What you see on Quora is the Knetz tearing KSH apart, bits of flesh at a time, and loving every second of it. To them, it is a game, a form of entertainment; and they are bizarrely determined in their quest to kill him off.
But, for once, in KSH we have a celeb who is fighting back HARD, with his own army of lawyers who are filling lawsuits and holding press conferences to expose the crazy, mendacious antics of the Youtube weirdos and the god-awful family of Kim Sae Ron, and doing this in real time.
I am sure KSH is suffering mightily in private, but I certainly hope he holds it together and survives this, because the tragic and unfair truth is that, no matter how thoroughly all of these accusations are shown to be false, the Korean public, the entertainment industry, and production companies will almost certainly cancel him anyway.
There will never be a time when the press will stop mentioning this "scandal" before his name in headlines, even after it is all shown to be bullshit. In Korea, once you are "embroiled in scandal," it makes no difference whether there is any truth to the scandal, you are done.
The above is why the recent success of Yoo Ah In's film, The Match, both in theatres and on Netflix after his release from jail and the last two years of media and law enforcement torture, is so important. It shows a crack in the great Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. I hope that crack keeps widening until the whole thing falls apart and Korea begins to mature away from its backward, Puritanical cultural attitudes.
Can you imagine if any of these Knetz were publicly held to the same standards they hold celebs to? lol They would all be destroyed, imprisoned, or banished from polite society. I despise them.
On edit: I was not greatly aware of KSH either, until this manufactured media feeding frenzy began. I watch almost no Kdramas, and that is the medium from which his greatest fame derives. However, I did see his 2013 film, "Secretly Greatly" about three years ago and found him and the movie hysterically funny. It is on my top 30 best films list. I have watched it three times, and I don't rewatch films unless I love them. So, despite not having seen most of his work, I've been well aware of who he is and how talented he is. I appreciate the laughter he brought into my life. :)
As I watched The Match, I kept thinking how puffy-faced and unhealthy Yoo looked. It is the same, swollen, unwell look he had in the Netflix series "Alive." Then, I checked the shooting schedule for this film: December 2020-July, 2021. This film is FOUR years old, which means Yoo was in the midst of his suffering from severe insomnia, and addictions to sleeping pills and Propofol. OF COURSE, he looks unwell; he WAS unwell.
I haven't seen a photo of him since his release from jail. If anyone who reads this has seen one, please post a link in reply to this comment. I would love to see him looking healthy and fresh-faced, since he has been in treatment for so long. I just tried to find one online, and was unsuccessful.
I am an alcoholic, sober 25 years now. (Yay!!) I looked like holy hell when I staggered into recovery, but within two weeks, I began to look like an entirely different person. People who saw me come in and then two or three weeks later were like, "omg, is this you?!" It was a wonderful response to get; so encouraging. I know Yoo must look like such a vigorous, glowing version of his real self by now and I'd love to see that. I wish for him a long, healthy, and happy recovery, lasting him the rest of his days. There are few more rewarding accomplishments, nor greater gifts than sobriety after a long period of addiction.
You do know YOU just "came back to the same comment thread..." to post this comment, right?
I didn't "scream," Psycho Cindy. I backed away from you quietly and slowly. it was the voice of Satan you heard screaming inside your head.
And it may surprise you to know I am interacting with other commenters in this thread, but it's true. You dont, you know, OWN the thread.