It's not a bad show, Its way better than alot of bl shows I have seen
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Have you watched any older BLs, or just the new stuff that's airing now? Here's a messy, but complete site of old, upcoming, and current bls by country: https://world-of-bl.com/
This site can be fun and useful too. Lists BLs by year, country, etc. with reviews and other commentary. Looks like they just recently redesigned the site too: https://blwatcher.com/
It's not a bad show, Its way better than alot of bl shows I have seen
Oh wow, so you're brand-new to the BL universe. Yay! I stumbled across this genre three years ago, and it rocked my world. Ironically, all of the shows I first watched were Thai. They are older series that had already aired, so I was able to binge-watch entire shows. Here's a link to my Top 30 Best BLs list. There are eight Thai shows on it, but they're all at least two years old.
It's not a bad show, Its way better than alot of bl shows I have seen
A "lot of bl shows" are absolutely terrible, thus your qualification means nothing. Being better than other really bad shows doesn't make your show "good," just less bad. I wish people here would raise their standards and quit making excuses for BLs to be poorly made just because they are BLs.
Every good BL on MDL is underrated, and the shitty ones are highly OVER-rated. That said, to me an 8.2/10 rating…
Actually, I rated it a 1/10 to pull it down a bit, but normally I wouldn't give it more than a 6 (a D or the ABCDF scale) because I think it's terrible in multiple ways.
Juvenile plotting and dialogue Horribly amateur aspects like fight scene choreo so bad it was embarrassing, and that stupid bus stop cover that fell down as if made of cardboard, which I'm sure it was. Nanon has no sex appeal. I felt nothing between him and Ohm, and I felt Ohm did all the work to make whatever sliver of chemistry appeared from time to time. The idea of Nanon topping anything, including a pillow or a teddy bear, is absurd. He was good as that nerd in those two related BLs back when. Whoever decided he was a romantic leading man was on drugs. Lots of lame scenes such as when the curtain fell to expose the Nanon/Ohm backstage smooch. So predictable and again, juvenile. The supposed feud between the parents was acted by middle school-level actors, and the feud itself was never made clear as to what it was all about. They hated each other, and far out of proportion to whatever vague reasons they had for doing so. I could go on indefinitely. Overall, the show feels like a cheap, community theatre production featuring middle school actors delivering plot/dialogue written by their peers. It was made for the fluff-lovers of MDL, who are terrified of and offended by the existence of SEX (guys that age would be doing it two/three times a day), and prefer rainbows, unicorns and cotton candy clouds to anything approaching the reality of what a gay relationship between guys their age would be like. To me, the entire thing is insulting to my intelligence, both mental and emotional. I'm not a person who thinks BLs have some built-in excuse to be amateurish and childish because they're a BL. I see a lot of that in comments on MDL: "What do you expect? It's a BL." What I expect is a production as well-made in every way as possible.
BLs that far exceed Bad Buddy but are rated far lower:
Blueming IPYTM ITSAY History 2: Crossing the Line History 3: MODC Utsukushii Kare His: What Is Love? Like Love Old Fashion Cupcake We Best Love: #1 for You (the sequel was horrible) Love Sick Semantic Error Etc.
Every good BL on MDL is underrated, and the shitty ones are highly OVER-rated. That said, to me an 8.2/10 rating is damn good, a B+. Ratings are generally inflated here. People forget there are SEVEN numbers below 8 and they are there to be used.
The horror that is "Bad Buddy," is rated 8.4. Good god. I gave it a 1/10 just to try to pull that rating back down even an itsy bit toward where it should be, which is about 6/10, or a D. I think it's terrible.
"I want to see them like get up there with Thai Bl..." lol I'm sorry. I was right with you up to this point and…
CURRENT Thai BL? No, I CAN deny that, except for China because China doesn't make BLs, period. It makes pathetic, cock-tease, homophobic bromances that play footsie with gay stories it doesn't dare to tell.
I would rather watch this awful show, Anti Reset, than almost anything out of Thailand in the last two years.
I’m sorry, I really try with the Taiwanese BL’s and some of them have been really good. But one question I…
"I want to see them like get up there with Thai Bl..." lol I'm sorry. I was right with you up to this point and then I laughed out loud. :)
To me, Thai BLs have steadily degenerated from the best of the best in the pioneering days of BL, to the absolute worst of the worst in this or any other known universe, space or time. ugh Low production values, terrible acting and direction, stupid/juvenile plots, lame/slow/stilted dialogue, fluff/fluff/fluff, the list goes on forever.
Eight of my top 30 BLs are Thai but they are all from 2022 or further back. Moonlight Chicken is the only watchable show out of the Thai BL factory during that time. I drop most during the first episode, second max. The country's BL machine is focused entirely on quantity, quality be damned, and has trained its audience to accept anything it puts out, the less thought/time/attention put into it the better.
It pains me to think of how much money goes into making all those horrible shows, and how many good ones could be made if at least one production company slowed down and decided to care about overall quality.
The more I've thought about it since watching the first two episodes last night, the more I realize that this show is garbage. Like something that would come out of Thailand on the latest BL garbage barge to be dumped, and become part of the Great Gulf of Thailand Floating BL Garbage Patch.
I guess this will be dumped in the Taiwan Strait Floating BL Garbage Patch. Perhaps shards of its awful gayness will wash up on Chinese beaches and cause a mass gay panic. That would be fun.
Also, apparently, Taiwan received a shipment of clown-white makeup from the Korean K-Pop and BL acting industry, and put it to use in this show.
Few people know this, but MDL is also a registered, functioning, sex-negative, religious cult populated by hordes…
"Then there's personal taste, I don't like power-imbalance or age-gaps because I don't like them. Young with young, old with old, because that's what superficially looks good and right to me..."
And you have no interest in exploring WHY you don't like what you don't like? Of course, everyone has a right to dislike what they dislike, but to say "I just do, and I don't have to have a reason" is intellectually lazy. People who say that are afraid of looking at the "why" of things.
The best art challenges its audience to one degree or another.
Have you been in a relationship(s)? If so, are you saying they were all one hundred percent, precisely calibrated to ensure each partner had exactly the same amount of "power?" How is that done? How is that measured?
As for age gaps, do the partners have to be born on the same day of the same year or can they be six months apart in age? Two years? Ten years? Why is two OK but ten is not?
This just isn't very good, to put it plainly. I'll probably watch one or two more eps. If it doesn't improve, I'll drop it.
Random thoughts: Why did the young professor hang and store his sweater in what appeared to be a refrigerator sitting by the front door? I saw an electrical cord running to an outlet. wtf was that? Beautiful house. I guess young professors at his college are paid millions of dollars. The professor is nearly one hundred percent mobile. Why did he need to take medical leave? The AI has a scary smile. At the supermarket, why did the AI put the veggies from the cart back on the shelves and fill it with meat? But then when he cooked dinner, there were lots of steamed vegetables. That poor young female student has ugly knees. Why is the AI covered in pleated clothing? The "Uncle" seemed to be hitting on the professor. Incest? A dislocated shoulder would be excruciatingly painful, not something you just brush off. Why was the sponge bath done on the couch and on only half of his torso? The AI might be a real dude, and this is the professor's plot to get him to engage with a human, which he doesn't like to do. But we see the AI in the lab, so I guess that can't be it. Why did the lab workers use a curling iron on the AI's hair?
God, why am I wasting my time with these questions? :D
It has an original vibe in several small ways, that add up to something intriguing. Second Japanese BL in a row with a hot geek in black glasses. Works for me.
Wow, a violent, unconsented-to, sexual assault in the very first episode! I am totally on board with this one, although I am upset about the HJ rape and Hiro's obvious, profound, post-rape PTSD. That's it! Perhaps the rest of the show will be about Hiro's journey from victim of violent assault to fully-recovered, MDL Church Lady-approved, celibate and sexually-frustrated, but morally pure Vestal Virgin.
Why do people get weird over sex scenes? I've watched many r Rated bl, more specifically Japanese ones and it's…
Few people know this, but MDL is also a registered, functioning, sex-negative, religious cult populated by hordes of prudish, moral scolds from the U.S., otherwise known as Church Ladies. It's good, old-fashioned, American Puritanism dressed up in new, ugly clothes for the 21st century.
In the MDL Church of Sex Is Bad, sexual activity always falls into one of the following categories: Rape Assault Inappropriate Problematic Result of a power imbalance Too graphic Too explicit Age-gap inappropriate Actor-age inappropriate Result of psychological pressure Result of sexual objectification Pedophilia Icky "It makes me uncomfortable..." Result of fetishization Immoral Unnecessary Lack of consent Improper consent Unclear consent
To sum up, MDLers do not like cum stains on their fluff.
This sounds one hundred percent juvenile, stupid, and Thailand-like, but I'll give it a try. Think about it: You're going to fall in love with a fucking robot that has no, actual human personality, is entirely artificial, that will not age as you do, and that, no matter how good you are at deluding yourself, you will always know is NOT a human loving you back, but a machine providing some level of SIM experience? Nah.
WAY too many BLs rely on lame time-travel and other sci-fi or supernatural elements. There is plenty of material to be written based on reality; this kind of gimmicky shit is usually the worst. Stay By My Side worked because the leads were adorable and had great chemistry, and the supernatural element was presented as cutesy/jokey, a mere device by which to get the couple together, not to be taken seriously at the center of the plot. Other than that, I've dropped every sci-fi BL I've started.
Thinking of the Japanese sex robots, I'm going to say yes. Plus, the throat and rectum would need frequent cleanings.…
Any gay man who, after a couple of experiences, STILL feels pain when bottoming, isn't doing it right. People bottom because it feels GOOD, not because they are masochists or just want to satisfy their partner regardless of their own pleasure.
The BL trope of butt sex always being painful is annoying. I guess it's a hangover from the early BL novels written by women, in which getting plowed is the most painful/horrible thing imaginable, and medical care is always required. lol In the Addicted novel, a doctor is flown in for DAILY checkups after the first butt sex incident. hahahaha
myasiantv
kissasian
dramacool
myreadingmanga
ok.ru
and others...
Have you watched any older BLs, or just the new stuff that's airing now?
Here's a messy, but complete site of old, upcoming, and current bls by country: https://world-of-bl.com/
This site can be fun and useful too. Lists BLs by year, country, etc. with reviews and other commentary. Looks like they just recently redesigned the site too: https://blwatcher.com/
https://kisskh.at/list/3rWQjk74
To watch, just google the name of the show plus "eng sub" if you need them like I do. Nearly all of these are available on several free sites.
Your and my BL standards differ greatly.
Juvenile plotting and dialogue
Horribly amateur aspects like fight scene choreo so bad it was embarrassing, and that stupid bus stop cover that fell down as if made of cardboard, which I'm sure it was.
Nanon has no sex appeal. I felt nothing between him and Ohm, and I felt Ohm did all the work to make whatever sliver of chemistry appeared from time to time.
The idea of Nanon topping anything, including a pillow or a teddy bear, is absurd. He was good as that nerd in those two related BLs back when. Whoever decided he was a romantic leading man was on drugs.
Lots of lame scenes such as when the curtain fell to expose the Nanon/Ohm backstage smooch. So predictable and again, juvenile.
The supposed feud between the parents was acted by middle school-level actors, and the feud itself was never made clear as to what it was all about. They hated each other, and far out of proportion to whatever vague reasons they had for doing so.
I could go on indefinitely.
Overall, the show feels like a cheap, community theatre production featuring middle school actors delivering plot/dialogue written by their peers. It was made for the fluff-lovers of MDL, who are terrified of and offended by the existence of SEX (guys that age would be doing it two/three times a day), and prefer rainbows, unicorns and cotton candy clouds to anything approaching the reality of what a gay relationship between guys their age would be like.
To me, the entire thing is insulting to my intelligence, both mental and emotional. I'm not a person who thinks BLs have some built-in excuse to be amateurish and childish because they're a BL. I see a lot of that in comments on MDL: "What do you expect? It's a BL." What I expect is a production as well-made in every way as possible.
BLs that far exceed Bad Buddy but are rated far lower:
Blueming
IPYTM
ITSAY
History 2: Crossing the Line
History 3: MODC
Utsukushii Kare
His: What Is Love?
Like Love
Old Fashion Cupcake
We Best Love: #1 for You (the sequel was horrible)
Love Sick
Semantic Error
Etc.
If you're interested, here's my Top 30 BLs list: https://kisskh.at/list/3rWQjk74
The horror that is "Bad Buddy," is rated 8.4. Good god. I gave it a 1/10 just to try to pull that rating back down even an itsy bit toward where it should be, which is about 6/10, or a D. I think it's terrible.
I would rather watch this awful show, Anti Reset, than almost anything out of Thailand in the last two years.
To me, Thai BLs have steadily degenerated from the best of the best in the pioneering days of BL, to the absolute worst of the worst in this or any other known universe, space or time. ugh Low production values, terrible acting and direction, stupid/juvenile plots, lame/slow/stilted dialogue, fluff/fluff/fluff, the list goes on forever.
Eight of my top 30 BLs are Thai but they are all from 2022 or further back. Moonlight Chicken is the only watchable show out of the Thai BL factory during that time. I drop most during the first episode, second max. The country's BL machine is focused entirely on quantity, quality be damned, and has trained its audience to accept anything it puts out, the less thought/time/attention put into it the better.
It pains me to think of how much money goes into making all those horrible shows, and how many good ones could be made if at least one production company slowed down and decided to care about overall quality.
Not that you asked, but I had to respond. :)
I guess this will be dumped in the Taiwan Strait Floating BL Garbage Patch. Perhaps shards of its awful gayness will wash up on Chinese beaches and cause a mass gay panic. That would be fun.
Also, apparently, Taiwan received a shipment of clown-white makeup from the Korean K-Pop and BL acting industry, and put it to use in this show.
Yeah, this is terrible.
Dropping. 1/10
And you have no interest in exploring WHY you don't like what you don't like? Of course, everyone has a right to dislike what they dislike, but to say "I just do, and I don't have to have a reason" is intellectually lazy. People who say that are afraid of looking at the "why" of things.
The best art challenges its audience to one degree or another.
Have you been in a relationship(s)? If so, are you saying they were all one hundred percent, precisely calibrated to ensure each partner had exactly the same amount of "power?" How is that done? How is that measured?
As for age gaps, do the partners have to be born on the same day of the same year or can they be six months apart in age? Two years? Ten years? Why is two OK but ten is not?
Thinking is fun.
I'll probably watch one or two more eps. If it doesn't improve, I'll drop it.
Random thoughts:
Why did the young professor hang and store his sweater in what appeared to be a refrigerator sitting by the front door? I saw an electrical cord running to an outlet. wtf was that?
Beautiful house. I guess young professors at his college are paid millions of dollars.
The professor is nearly one hundred percent mobile. Why did he need to take medical leave?
The AI has a scary smile.
At the supermarket, why did the AI put the veggies from the cart back on the shelves and fill it with meat? But then when he cooked dinner, there were lots of steamed vegetables.
That poor young female student has ugly knees.
Why is the AI covered in pleated clothing?
The "Uncle" seemed to be hitting on the professor. Incest?
A dislocated shoulder would be excruciatingly painful, not something you just brush off.
Why was the sponge bath done on the couch and on only half of his torso?
The AI might be a real dude, and this is the professor's plot to get him to engage with a human, which he doesn't like to do. But we see the AI in the lab, so I guess that can't be it.
Why did the lab workers use a curling iron on the AI's hair?
God, why am I wasting my time with these questions? :D
Relaxation is the key. After that, the sensations are indescribably blissful.
It has an original vibe in several small ways, that add up to something intriguing.
Second Japanese BL in a row with a hot geek in black glasses. Works for me.
Had I been Kai, that HJ would have been a BJ.
In the MDL Church of Sex Is Bad, sexual activity always falls into one of the following categories:
Rape
Assault
Inappropriate
Problematic
Result of a power imbalance
Too graphic
Too explicit
Age-gap inappropriate
Actor-age inappropriate
Result of psychological pressure
Result of sexual objectification
Pedophilia
Icky
"It makes me uncomfortable..."
Result of fetishization
Immoral
Unnecessary
Lack of consent
Improper consent
Unclear consent
To sum up, MDLers do not like cum stains on their fluff.
WAY too many BLs rely on lame time-travel and other sci-fi or supernatural elements. There is plenty of material to be written based on reality; this kind of gimmicky shit is usually the worst. Stay By My Side worked because the leads were adorable and had great chemistry, and the supernatural element was presented as cutesy/jokey, a mere device by which to get the couple together, not to be taken seriously at the center of the plot. Other than that, I've dropped every sci-fi BL I've started.
The BL trope of butt sex always being painful is annoying. I guess it's a hangover from the early BL novels written by women, in which getting plowed is the most painful/horrible thing imaginable, and medical care is always required. lol In the Addicted novel, a doctor is flown in for DAILY checkups after the first butt sex incident. hahahaha