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I also asked you to keep replying, because it's fun to toy with lame-brains.

Interestingly, you expressed outrage at the name-calling, yet continue to spew your own. I think "stupid asshole..." qualifies as a name-calling insult, don't you agree?

Yes, you see right through me. I care deeply for you, it's true. The "barking" you hear comes straight from my loins, turgid with desire, longing to possess you, body and soul. I, a Doberman in rut for your man-hole, bark and growl, demanding your submission.

What else can I do? You have conquered my very being, and I must answer the call of nature and breed you as the bitch you are.

Yes! I...LIKE YOU! Woof! Woof!

I see Yong Bi as having a very STRONG conscience and sense of morality, which is why it shocked me at the end that he had agreed to blame the death on SW. However, he was no doubt brow-beaten into doing so by his brother, his two (former) friends, the prosecutor, the defense attorney and the other parents. It would be near-impossible to stand up against that kind of pressure, given his age and vulnerable position.

Remember, the big fight on the bus to the detention center erupted BECAUSE YB's other two friends first wanted YB to take all the blame, and then they switched to "why don't we blame SW? He can't defend himself anyway." YB was outraged at both ideas and that's what led to the fight, them being outside the bus and running into the marsh, etc.

I see him as having been worn down and simply collapsing under the weight of being in jail and having EVERYONE involved pushing him to do the wrong thing.

What's most tragic is that whether SW stayed in a coma, woke up, or died, he had already been branded a murderer. When YB went to the funeral home at the end and I suddenly realized SW had died, I gasped out loud and began to weep even before YB did so.

Again, in reference to YB's sense of right and wrong, I believe it to be so strong that he would definitely, before too long, confess to SW's Grandma what had really happened, and then go public with that to the police and the press. Given who he is, he would HAVE to do that simply to live with himself without losing his mind with guilt. Or, he could turn to suicide, as far too many people do in Korea.

Oh god, this is such a well-made but heartbreaking tale. A sequel would be an excellent idea, once stupid-ass Korea gets over its hissy-fit that Kim Ji Soo knew some kids who bullied another kid in fucking middle school. Jesus.

KJS is one of Korea's most talented young actors and, as I said above, if Korea doesn't want him, we'll take him here in the U.S.

I see Yong Bi as having a very STRONG conscience and sense of morality, which is why it shocked me at the end that he had agreed to blame the death on SW. However, he was no doubt brow-beaten into doing so by his brother, his two (former) friends, the prosecutor, the defense attorney and the other parents. It would be near-impossible to stand up against that kind of pressure, given his age and vulnerable position.

Remember, the big fight on the bus to the detention center erupted BECAUSE YB's other two friends first wanted YB to take all the blame, and then they switched to "why don't we blame SW? He can't defend himself anyway." YB was outraged at both ideas and that's what led to the fight, them being outside the bus and running into the marsh, etc.

I see him as having been worn down and simply collapsing under the weight of being in jail and having EVERYONE involved pushing him to do the wrong thing.

What's most tragic is that whether SW stayed in a coma, woke up, or died, he had already been branded a murderer. When YB went to the funeral home at the end and I suddenly realized SW had died, I gasped out loud and began to weep even before YB did so.

Again, in reference to YB's sense of right and wrong, I believe it to be so strong that he would definitely, before too long, confess to SW's Grandma what had really happened, and then go public with that to the police and the press. Given who he is, he would HAVE to do that simply to live with himself without losing his mind with guilt. Or, he could turn to suicide, as far too many people do in Korea.

Oh god, this is such a well-made but heartbreaking tale. A sequel would be an excellent idea, once stupid-ass Korea gets over its hissy-fit that Kim Ji Soo knew some kids who bullied another kid in fucking middle school. Jesus.

KJS is one of Korea's most talented young actors and, as I said above, if Korea doesn't want him, we'll take him here in the U.S.

Seriously, piss off. I expressed concern for her in her personal life because she's lost a lot of people she loved. I don't gaf if you want to twist that all around to suit your purpose, which I guess boils down to "shut up, you mean person who thinks my fave actress is a terrible one."

Oh god, I'm sorry! These were probably a LOT more "massive paragraphs" than you can deal with. My bad.

Thanks for replying! I was hoping you would.

Care to explain what "keywords" I "twisted?" Of course you don't, since I didn't do that. lol

From one of your earlier, moronic replies:
"Hmmm...so you're really a child...But I understand you don't have the maturity to understand that thing..."
From your most recent brainless raving:
"Pity you have to lie about your fathers occupation too you senile fart."

In just a few back-and-forths, I've gone from being a "child" to being a "senile fart." hahaha So which is it? Or should I average your panicky insults out where they meet in the middle, which would make me an immature but senile, 40s-ish adult? Does that work for you?

Also, I don't recall claiming my father "occupied" all of Europe by himself, but maybe it's best you don't try to grasp any more than what's already too much for you to handle.

You: "You're the one who can't hold a single conversation without personally attacking lmao."
Also you: "Bruh, shut up," "highly ignorant," "...you're really a child...," "...you don't have the maturity...," "..you support mass murder...," "...massive moron..." and best of all, "senile fart." Pot, kettle much?

Actually, I'm 107 years old, so I'm going to go "die a loser" now. Your genius retorts have driven me to my grave at long last.

Could you please reply at least one more time? You show yourself to be dumber and funnier with each, increasingly loony comment.

Back for my third watch in three years.
It gets better every time.
For a BL especially, the acting across the board is exceptional. From our two leads of course; they are the best. But good heavens, Wilson Liu brings an intense realness to the character of Bo Xiang, whether he's smiling that megawatt smile or breaking into tears, that moves me to my core. He's had ME in tears three or four times in the first two episodes, just from feeling BX's desperate, passionate longing for Zji Gang. His performance here is remarkable.

This show is in my top 5 best BLs of all time for many reasons. WL is one of them.

She is a well-known, popular television news anchor. Telling the truth about what actually happened would lead to the exposure of her extramarital affair, and the fact that it was her husband who was beating her because he found out. This would be a huge, public scandal, and you know how those things go over in Korea. Her career would be over and her reputation forever destroyed. She'd be branded a slut and adulteress.

I have hated many evil, selfish, cruel characters in Korean movies over the past three years. The level of hatred I felt for her puts her in the top five. Those kids SAVED her ass, and she put them through hell.

Although now that I think of it, wouldn't a defense attorney have put the boys on the stand to tell their side of the story. In so doing, her reputation would have been destroyed whether or not a judge believed them because it would be reported in the press.

On the other hand, it seems to not have been a problem, at least until th e recent past, for a prosecutor, judge, and "defense" attorney to be bribed to work together to keep the kids from having a chance to testify.

This movie was only 1:22:00 long. It would have been nice to see that angle of the story fleshed out a bit. I'm still in shock that Yong Bi sold out his beloved friend Sang Woo. However, it may have come down to an agreement with the prosecutor to blame everything on SW, and in return the judge would go easy on the kids. Jesus, how horrible.

Yes, I love mass murder. I live for it every day. You see right through me.

I KNEW you'd make some idiotic reference to something like "massive paragraphs." You're the type that finds tossing around short, mindless words and phrases you don't understand like "mass murder" and "genocide" preferable to actual thinking, which often requires "reading."

Rebuilding Japan into a flourishing society that has produced millions of new Japanese babies/citizens over the post-WW2 decades seems to me like a fucked-up means of accomplishing "genocide." lol

Write me again. I'm in the mood to toy with an arrogant, ignorant tool.

Kiss my a*s.

My second watch of this great film, and it hit harder this time than the first.
We live in a universe of infinite shades of gray. Films that build stories around that truth make the best dramas of all.

The woman the boys came to the defense of quickly became, after she showed up at the police station, one of the evil, hateful, selfish characters I have hated the most in three years of soaking up Korean thrillers. What a...bitch.

Many cops here where I live in the U.S. are just as full of shit as the police in this film. I've no doubt they destroy hundreds of lives per day out of laziness, self-righteousness, arrogance, corruption, and pure meanness. I never assume a cop to be a good guy until I see some proof.

To the self-righteous commenters here who claim to know what they would do in this situation, you are full of it. You have no idea, until it happens to you, THEN you get to decide. Until then, perhaps keep your fantasies of being morally perfect to yourselves.

All four leads are tremendously good in their roles here, with Kim Ji Soo a level or two above the others. He is a tremendously talented actor. He is absolutely sensational as the ML in "Amanza," one of the best films ever made about facing certain death, so it's no surprise he'd nail this role too. His hallucination of seeing and speaking with SW near the end was heartbreakingly portrayed. I cried ugly at that point.

KJS has the ability to create characters who are unjustly maligned or put in unbearably tragic situations, and who fight back, but he never feels pitiful or cloying. The heart of his characters is what makes what happens to them outrageously upsetting.

I see however, that as usual, the Korean entertainment suicide-factory, the media, the "netizens," and the Korean public have done their best to destroy this young man's career because he bullied somebody in freaking MIDDLE SCHOOL. Generally speaking, I love Korean movies most among all Asian nations, BUT I despise the very twisted Korean celeb/fan/media/police/public culture that is vindictive and destructive of its finest, beyond belief.

I see KJS enlisted in 2021. I'll have to read up on when he gets out and the prospects for a renewal of his career. If Korea doesn't want him, we will be happy to take him here in the U.S.

As usual here on MDL, this excellent flick is extremely underrated, so I am going to give it a perfect 10/10 when I might otherwise have given it a 9.5/10. SOMEONE has to counteract the bizarre MDL ratings that seem to raise the worst and lower the best.

You must be a really deep thinker.

What is the plot hole, please? I've watched this film twice, and it's excellent, so I'd love to know what I missed.

This is terrible. The ML's overacting and the over-the-top, LOUD background music, makes this feel like a horror movie parody.

15 minutes in, but I know a turd when I smell it.

Dropped.

I assure you I am far older than you, bruh. My dad fought against the Nazis in WW2. I've been educating myself about that and other wars for decades.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not about "punishing" anyone. The bombings were about ending the war as soon as possible by forcing a surrender. That choice saved millions of lives on both sides.

Take your "fantasies" of "right and wrong" and stuff them where they belong. Your tiny mind exists in an imaginary universe of black and white. The real universe is infinite shades of gray.

Bruh, f**k off.
I didn't say anything about "torture," "bruh," so "shut up."

If the Allies had had to conquer Japan by a land invasion instead of forcing a surrender via Nagasaki and Hiroshima, estimates were that 750,000 to 1M Allied soldiers would have died. Then there's the injuries that would have been caused, in the hundreds of thousands, many times the numbers above.

Then there's the casualties that would have been inflicted by a land invasion on the Japanese military and civilian population, who had been brainwashed into fanatically defending Japan and the Emperor to the death, rather than surrender. We're talking multiples of millions of Japanese dead and wounded.

Dead and wounded from the atomic bombings (from the explosions themselves and subsequent deaths by radiation sickness over the next four months:
Hiroshima 76,000 - 126,000
Nagasaki 60,000 - 80,000

Surely, even a dunce like you can see that the number of dead and wounded from the bombings is far LESS than the same number had there been an allied invasion of Japan.

Yes, I know a lot more people died over the years from illnesses related to the bombings, and that sucks. But, "bruh," shit like that happens when your military, fanatically supported by your civilian population, invades, murders, rapes and tortures nearly all of East and Southeast Asia, then refuses to surrender long after it is clear they are going to lose.

Even AFTER the Emperor had recorded his message of surrender to the Japanese public after Nagasaki, elements of the Japanese army were nearly successful in staging a coup and preventing the broadcast of that message. They were dead-set on fighting to the last dead Japanese man, woman, and child rather than surrender. Thankfully, the coup failed. There are at least two excellent Japanese films about this incident.

Yup, no doubt, bruh, war sucks really hard. Horrible things happen. But it boils down to "better horrible things happen to THEM than to US."

What your fanatical and willfully blind position refuses to admit is that Japanese lives were actually SAVED by the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings and subsequent surrender. After the war, the U.S. was broadly magnanimous in victory and treated Japan and its people with respect and the intention of rebuilding it from a war-obsessed, Samauri mentality to being a democratic, productive member of the world community.

And that approach was far more successful than either the Japanese or Americans dreamed it could be. Japan became one of the most prosperous, productive countries in the world, and continues to be so to this day. All thanks to two atomic and nuclear bombs that shut down Japan in a flash.

Had Japan gotten the bomb first, there is no doubt they would have used it with a passion against the U.S. and anyone else in their way, so no, there was no other way but to develop and use it first. To say otherwise is just stupid.

As early as the late 1940s, after the war, the Japanese people and government were wildly thankful to the Americans for the way they were treated in defeat, and for all the $$$ the U.S. poured into remaking Japan, There are almost NO anti-U.S. Japanese-made movies in existence to this day, because most Japanese people recognize how lucky they are that things turned out the way they did.

Yeah, death and radiation sickness suck. Tell that to the millions of innocents in China and the rest of Asia killed with abandon by Japanese troops, raped, tortured, and beaten to death. War sucks, and Japan had to suck it hardest because they started the whole thing and wouldn't give up. That's how it works.

I don't care how you feel about that because it's the simple truth.

Good heavens.

Somehow, the Koreans made me, an American who was never a big fan of bloody crime thrillers, into exactly that thing. And this may be the best one yet. Definitely top 5. Wow.

Academy Award for Jung Woo Sung. He 100% nailed this role in every possible way. I've been a big fan since I saw Beasts Clawing at Straws, and have been seeking out his films one by one.

The strong, individual characterizations in Korean thrillers are, I think, what makes Hollywood stuff look tame and lame by comparison. Among all these lowlifes are a few I cared about to the bitter end. They're dark, messed-up people, but often we are told enough about WHY they're that way that sympathy arises and sticks.

That, and the spectacularly choreographed, rehearsed, and acted fight/shoot/hack/blood scenes. Magnificent.

Naturally, this being MDL, this stunning film is extremely underrated.

10/10

Highly recommended.

What is the justification for remaking one of the most important, early BLs, which is so damn good just as it is? Especially in the same language and from the same country where the original was filmed? The first Love Sick is a classic for a reason; it's damn near perfect.

I kind of hope this remake bombs so people will think twice about remaking other classic BLs for no other reason than that Thailand is churning out so many bad BLs that they've completely run out of ideas. So hey! Let's remake a show whose original version is only nine years old!

Seems to me an 8.4 on a 10 scale is a pretty damn good rating. MDL is crazy with the ratings inflation. There are SEVEN numbers below 8, you know. Please use them.

Ten more Thai Turds in the BL Toilet, no doubt.