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His fucked up choice was having the affair in the first place. Should he have compounded it by making a SECOND fucked up choice?

"fxked" lol

Why did you keep watching? Did you finish the movie? If so, why?

So why did you keep coming back for more? Maybe not so "bad" after all?

...and so? She's a grown woman and she made a fucked up choice.

lol

"Never trust a woman. Never leave your family for a woman. Even if she left her family for you, remember that one day she can leave you for another."

Someone's bitter about something from their own life, and projecting it onto the life of every other human being as though said someone has received great wisdom through strife. lol Not hardly.

"Despite its immorality..."

It's almost funny, the way you make this qualifier as if the morality portrayed in this film, one way or the other, falls to the negative side. Why? Because you say so? If not you, who?

And what, exactly, do you mean by "morality?" Please explain.

Are you a priest, monk, rabbi, philosopher, what?

Our beloved, scrawny little love-bug Xi Gu, is not dead. He is alive, either in a coma in a hospital where he was placed by his aunt after the accident, or he has regained consciousness and is living fully, but with all memory of his prior life wiped away.

Evidence:
After Xi Gu was hit by a car and taken away by ambulance no doubt, Hao Ting never saw him again. As his ex-high school GF said over dinner after they ran into each other in the store where she was working, NO ONE, Xi Gu, her, any of his friends or teachers or anyone else they knew ever saw Xi Gu again. All they know is they were TOLD Xi Gu's aunt wanted a quick and quiet funeral and that was it. Why? Why could none of his friends attend his funeral? Well...because he wasn't dead.
2. Hao Ting's mom, her heart breaking at seeing her son still mourning Xi Gu so powerfully after six years, urged him strongly to quit living in a frenzy, slow down, and start living again; to begin engaging with people again.
3. Hao Ting's mom and dad now pushing him to move forward with this "Phoebe" person, and if not with her, some other girl.
4. Especially from Hao Ting's mom, I've always felt an undertone of discomfort as she said these things to him, especially when saying them to him alone in his room. I believe her discomfort stems from guilt.
5. The bizarro-world, Xi Gu-doppelganger plot thing. Seriously, wtf? Hao Ting meets some dude on his hiking trips who just so happens to look EXACTLY like Xi Gu, in every way possible, from head to toe? And THEN he chooses to hang out with him? I get that his telling the doppelganger farewell for good can be read at least two or three different ways, but to me Hao Ting is saying goodbye to pretending that Xi Gu is still alive. This is why when he was with the doppelganger in the coffee shop and saw his sister waiting outside, he quickly left to join her. Had she looked in the window, she would have seen him sitting alone, talking to no one. (Or to someone who looked exactly like Xi Gu, which would have freaked her out of course, but that's not part of my theory.)
6. Hao-Ting's obliterating crying jags, alone and in front of his mom and Bo Xiang, during the latter of which especially, we saw the harrowing depth of his despair/the black hole he was living at the bottom of his realization he could not go on indefinitely. Sadly, he also made it clear he had TRIED to go on, to "forget him" but could not. So where does that leave us? To me, the final scene during which we see HT and BX sitting on the river bank discussing things, when HT talks about going somewhere he can get close enough to "touch Xi Gu," he is saying that when he reaches that place he will take his own life and join XG among the stars.

Summary of theory:
XG was hit by a car and rushed to a hospital.
HT and no one else from the school ever saw him again.
XG's aunt placed him in long-term care for coma patients.
HT's parents made inquiries and learning of this, conspired with XG's aunt to put out the cover story that XG had died and been quickly and quietly buried/cremated.
They did this to end the troublesome XG/HT relationship, which none of them were comfortable with and, in their twisted minds, to free HT to get "straight" again, fly right, and find some broad with functional ovaries to marry and make babies with.
What better opportunity to solve what they all saw as a problem than XG's coma?
XG is either still in a coma, has regained consciousness but with total amnesia but is STILL in a hospital, or has made or is making a full physical recovery, but with zero memory of his former life, including HT. If the latter, he is learning or has learned all over again, how to read, write, walk, talk, everything from scratch. He may be leading a fully recovered life somewhere, oblivious of all that he lived before but troubled by occasional, vivid dreams of a handsome, athletic young man who loved him named Tao Hing...? Ting Hao? Zing Wow?

This works as an ending regardless of whether a sequel was ever planned or will ever happen or not. There are too many odd little touches in that last episode for them not to be relevant, especially the quick funeral and burial, HT's talk of "getting close enough to touch XG in the stars," and the science fiction-worthy "doppelganger" angle.

Anyone who wishes to comment on this theory, please feel free. But please keep your replies non-abusive. :D Thank you.

Just finished my third watch in three years.
As I said below, it really does get better every time.
Which means, for better or for worse, that episode 10 is more painful every time too. But in a different way. This time, for example, my focus was less on the horror of what had gone down, and more on the horror of its after-effects on you know who.

The first time around I was in such shock that I registered maybe half, at most, of what was presented in that final episode. More sunk in the second time, and even more this time.

As such, I present, under the spoiler tag below, my current and much-considered theory regarding the true meaning behind the ending of History 3: Make Our Days Count.

Wilson Liu is an exceptional actor. Why isn't he getting more attention and more roles? Is there just not enough work to go around in the Taiwan film/drama industry?

But it IS censored, and what ended up on the screen is NOT a BL, no matter how badly you want it to be. Little, desperate hints here and there do not a BL make.

No girl.

I do agree it would have made a lot more sense if she and Sakae had been drinking at the restaurant and she was drunk. I had to laugh at how she kept challenging Soga to a fight, even as Sakae dragged her away. That's how some people act when they're drunk.

You get upset easily. This is a fictional story.

Episode 4: Meh. Mostly lame, but I'll keep watching for now.

I feel no chemistry between the leads.
I continue to see and feel nothing about Soga that would make him attractive to Sakae. Soga is bland, nerdy, and plain.
Oh boy, an ex-lover shows up. That's original.
The ex, with that dye job, looks like a woman.
It was kind of fun to see the straight girl transform from Sakae-stalker to fujoshi/fag hag. However, her "gothic" party decor was awful.
The drunk boss's drunk acting was terrible.

Overall, this is just meandering. Is Soga even gay? Shouldn't Sakae have ascertained that information before confessing to him?

Sakae is great to look at. He's beautiful, so that's something.

Anything new coming up from Korea or Japan or Taiwan to look forward to?

Wow. You are a weirdo. I'm curious: Why is it difficult to believe my dad fought in WW2? Lots of people fought in WW2. Most of them, like Dad, are dead, but their kids, like me, are still around for the most part.

I'm "raged?" I guess you mean I'm full of anger and hatred here? Is that it? Because your writing sucks and it's hard to know your meaning.

I explained why I keep replying to you. Why do you keep replying to me? And why do you consider yourself a "God," let alone one made of "Ice?" Ice can't last very long in New Delhi. What is it you are "Nostalgic" for? The days when you had a brain?

Nekoto's flaring left nostril (HIS left) needs its own drama series!

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

Golly, Jolly, you said it all!

My only take that differs from yours is that I'll probably watch this again some day, just to look at Toki and the other beautiful men. Yes, that caramel skin is the world to me. Can't wait to see the actor in more work, as I'm sure he is getting offers after this has aired.

Love your comment, especially this:

"However I don’t understand those people that saw the tags and still watched the whole series while complaining till the end about the student/teacher or minor/adult relationship. Why do you do this to yourself?"

They "do this to themselves" because they love to watch that which supposedly disturbs them. It turns them on and intrigues them, but at the same time they get to play self-righteous, PC, moral scolds, expressing their disapproval in the strongest terms in comments.

Actually, it can be fun to toy with these people.

I have watched other BLs that had charming, interesting, cute characters/actors, but which were horribly written and directed. Just as with this one, I kept watching for the handsomeness and the adorableness, despite the really bad storytelling.

However, I think this is the worst of this type of shows I have seen. The first three episodes presented a wildly handsome, outrageous, funny, interesting, intense, and conflicted main character, along with hilarious scenes of physical comedy and off-the-charts facial mugging by the same adorable dude.

We got a stunningly handsome teacher just a few years older than the student, whose crush on said teacher was a Big Bang explosion of love and lust. We got the out-of-nowhere but hysterically funny Snow White play and kiss, the gorgeous, basketball-playing friend and his little guy, and plenty of facial hilarity from Hachimura Rintaro as Toki, the caramel-skinned, bleach blond beauty. All the side characters were cute and well-acted.

However, beginning about episode 4, we got less and less of all of the above and more and more of talking,, talking, talking with terrible dialogue and plotting. Actually, there is an interesting relationship and backstories to this show, but the script managed to make it all increasingly boring to watch. I ended up watching only for the visuals of Toki, the teacher, the basketball player, his little guy, etc. Beautiful, handsome people, all of them.

I like that Toki had a nice enough body, as seen in one of several infirmary scenes, but he wasn't gym-ripped with a bulging six-pack, as so many BL actors are required by contract to be.

Here's the story that should have been told after episode three:
We get the build-up to the mutual confession scene with a promise to hold off on consumating their love physically until later. As the teacher said, "I ask you now to wait for me." And Toki did.
BUT...their mutual, emotional and physical passion is too powerful, and they are overcome with love and lust, and end up doing the deed in the equipment room of the school gym.
They carry on this way for a couple episodes, consumed with lust/love and fear of being caught.
Finally, they ARE caught going at it on top of a lab countertop in the science room, when a door they thought was locked turned out not to be. It was the principal who walked in and all hell broke loose. Incidentally, Toki and the Teacher are a sexually versatile couple. No top/bottom silliness here.
Teacher lost his job, the school was full of gossip and delicious scandal at what had transpired.
Teacher goes into exile, teaching at a high school in some obscure provincial village desperate for a coach and teacher.
Toki wants to come along but Teacher insists he stay and graduate from the high school where they banged each other until he graduates successfully.
Toki has a couple run-ins with the Yakuza bullies from the other school, but keeps his promise not to fight back.
Just before graduation, Toki discovers he is pregnant. He considers a quick abortion without telling Teacher but changes his mind and drops the bomb. Teacher insists they keep the butt-baby and raise it together in the village where he lives as an openly gay man and is beloved by the community.
Toki moves to the countryside, joinging the Teacher.
Having been admitted to a top tier Uni, Toki pursues a degree online while gestating the baby.
Toki gives birth and the scenes of the labor and delivery are the height of hilarity, given his comedic acting skills. Lots of screaming and facial contortions.
Toki, Teacher and baby live happily ever after in the village.

This is the story that should have been told.
You're welcome.

7.5/10

Oh for god's sake, relax. It's a fictional story. It said so in a banner across the bottom of the screen just before the credits. The show's makers know folks like you forget and begin to imagine they're watching a hidden camera documentary of an actual adult/minor relationship.

But you are correct that for most of the show we seemed to be told they were four or five years apart. Then, near the end, a couple of scenes present them in a way that implies it's more like 10 years' difference. Sloppy writing, which is the biggest problem with the show as a whole.

But remember what the banner on the screen said: THIS IS A FICTIONAL STORY!