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Near-total mea culpa: After watching the rest of episode 1 and all of 2, I have done an almost complete 180 turn on this show. I'm enjoying the watch, and I'm impressed with a lot of the special effects and stylistic filming choices. Elements like over-the-top, bombastic choruses chanting, less-than-convincing hospital settings, etc. seem to have faded away completely in episode 2.

I still believe big-budget thrillers are best left to big-budget producers of feature films, but this is pretty remarkable for a gay-themed television series. And I am proud to say I was onto Korn's smarminess from the moment of the condom in episode 1.

I admit I grow weary of the "every man within a 5-mile radius is gay" aspect of these shows. I'd like to see one or two characters at least have to be convinced...:D

Looking forward to the rest of this. I hope it can maintain the high bar it set for itself in the first two episodes.

On edit: This mea culpa applies only to the series 4Minutes. I stand by every word I've written regarding the scary Cat Cult here.

OK: The refusal of the top in the sex scene to NOT wear a condom even though his adorable little bitch was begging him to feed him his load...needs to be discussed. What gay man in a committed, monogamous relationship would wear a condom when his hot little partner asks him not to? wtf? It feels SO much better without one.

My first thought and continuing suspicion is that the top is cheating with some other dude or woman, even. Either way, I hope the script does something with that and we don't find out later that the exchange over the condom was nothing more than a PC safe-sex PSA.

After episode 1:

Wow. I'm going to keep watching this after all, if only for the sex scenes. :P That is the hottest damn thing I've ever seen in a BL. Felt kind of weird that we barely met Faisal and next thing we know he's heels-to-the-ceiling on the couch. lol This airs on TV in Thailand, right? Good god, this would NEVER make it onto broadcast TV in the US. Our Bible-beaters (I mean the book, not the actor) and other assorted prudes and sex-haters would lose their minds.

Did anyone else find the interaction regarding the condom...intriguing?

Also, these are the best-looking Thai leads I've seen since KinnPorsche. It seems all four of them can act as well. And I have to admit, though I find Koreans in general the hottest of Asian men, it's much appreciated to not have to look at a single bowl-cut thus far. (What IS it with Korea and those dopey bowl cuts? I read an amusing article not too long ago about how Korean-American men joke about how dorky bowl cuts are, but they all end up having one on and off throughout their lives. :D)

More about the condom behind the spoiler tag below...

Yeah, it's the old, lame, overused "you're not bugging ME. I love it!" act , one I've seen directed at others a hundred times. My response is supposed to be "oh no! She's ENJOYING this! And since I want to annoy her, not entertain her, I should stop commenting! Oh no! She LIKES being called a kitty! I should stop doing that!"

I don't care what you do or don't like. It's of no concern to me. BTW, have you been here straight-thru since last night? Wow.

Your tired style of schtick is done much better by thousands of others online every day. Keep it up. I don't care.

Thanks, but no.

You "discovered" nothing. I am not a fan of any Thai BL actor other than maybe Max of Together With Me. I rarely watch Thai BLs.

My obsession is not with Build, about whom I've not had a thought in many, many months, but with the irrational, swarming, fangirling behavior that leads you to trash celebs online, engage in made-up actor feuds as if they were your personal friends, and assume that anyone who points out flaws in toxic online fan behavior must be "stanning" the actor being trashed.

Yours and the other Cats' behaviors are what has led to the suicides of countless Korean artists. It sickens me to see the same thing going down in Thailand.

What's crazy is responding with comments to comments left by a crazy person.

"I know you're a fan of Build (lord knows why) and that's okay. That's upto you then."

This is a great example of crazy-ass BL fangirl Cat Clique thinking. (lol that you think being referred to as a cat is "disrespectful.") Because I pointed out that many of the accusations against Build are unwarranted garbage, you assume I am his "fan." You can't conceive of someone simply calling BS when they see yet another Asian entertainer being trashed online based on rumor and innuendo.

I have not even thought about Build for at least nine months, since whenever it was I hunted down the facts about your treasure Build-Bible feud. For the most part, I don't watch Thai BLs due to quality issues. I can't even picture Build's face anymore, that's how much of a Build fan I am. The only Thai BL actor I could conceivably be considered a fan of is Max, of "Together With Me."

As for the rest of your comment, I don't care what you think of me.

"I have the evidence, that's the thing, you know? But why share it? Why waste my free time when it is one click away? As I said; PAY.ME. "

omg, this is pathetic.

As you should have figured out by now, Badass Cat, I already HAVE done my research. That's how I know what I know. And I rely on reliable sources, not tpop rags, X, and Instagram.

"I have written multiple articles..." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Cats are creepy.
I haven't been "spamming" anyone here.
The Cats respond to me and I reply to them. How is that "spamming?"
Would it be "spamming" if I was writing things you agree with?
All you have to do is ignore me and the back-and-forth will die out.
Your lack of self-control is not my problem.
Oh, you can block me too, Badass Cat.

You cute little kitty. For the person who has written me several condescending, insulting comments, it is hilarious that you wrote the following:
"Etoks dear, i don't appreciate the condescending tone."

hahahahahaha

I'm not wasting time arguing with you. The Internet is rife with false accusations, allegations, rumors and personal attacks against actors and musical artists. You gotta do more than quote some trashy scandal-rag, dear. They excel at dressing up vile rumors as "facts" with words like "reportedly" and "netizens are saying..."

You're one of the cats. You know good and well Mimicat has repeatedly and personally attacked MDL members here with whom she disagreed. I'm definitely not hunting that shit down. I haven't see you weirdos in a very long time. And it's not as though you'd ever concede anything anyway, as your Catness precludes you from doing so.

Finally, also hilarious that you claim my "name-calling" as a "personal attack." Really? How delicate you are. The worst I've called anyone here is a "Cat." I think cats are cute and sweet. Don't you? I'm paying you a compliment, Riri-Cat!

Who's "us?" You, MC, and the other Cats?

OK, I will.

I am on occasion into submission and bondage, but for right now I'm going to bed in my tent under the bridge.

Look for me tomorrow.

I like to think I can be whatever I want to be from moment to moment. It's much more fun that way.

lol So you actually think I was seriously trying to pass myself off as the manager of a hospital? lol Good god, you have the brain of a cat, that's for sure.

I just live under a bridge and type on the Internet and chat with gullible people.

You know, you're right: You ARE entitled to say whatever BS you want about whoever you want online with zero supporting evidence. What you're not entitled to is to have anyone believe you or take what you say seriously.

The fact that you would WANT to do that says some sad things about your character.

Again, I don't go hunting for evidence backing up claims other people make, especially when I'm pretty sure they're BS. Do YOU do that?

Dude?

No, Ri, I don't do the research that should have been done by the commenters making BS accusations. That's their job, not mine.

YOU are the one lacking reading comprehension skills, riri dear. I very specifically addressed my comments to the Cat Lady making personal attacks on actors and celebrities, not MDLers, as you're attempting to imply. But then, you're likely one of those BL/kpop/tpop fans who don't think celebrities and entertainers are human beings deserving of respect and consideration. Would that be accurate to say?

Your last response seems a little hostile. Could you tone it down a bit?

Thanks! :D

Nah, I like it! I think I'm doing a pretty good job, judging from my response rate so far. Look! I've gotten three incoherent responses from you alone! Thanks! :)

Nah. People who make assertions on the Internet are the ones obligated to back them up. Millions of lies get told every day online because people like you say "everyone just knooooooows...." like that's evidence.

I already dealt with Asian celebs "admitting" to and apologizing for things they didn't do just to get beyond the "scandal." This happens all the time in Asian entertainment industry because people like you have to have their blood one way or the other.

Maybe upgrade your reading and thinking skills.

Hi Badass! But aren't you really a Cat?
I am the managing director of a major hospital in New York City. I think I know what I'm talking about.

Whose reaction did I say was a "mistake?" I'm pretty sure I never used that word nor implied it. What are you talking about?