I didn't know there are Turkish remakes of k-dramas, how interesting. (Also interesting that the Turkish episodes…
I think a British version of Hanzawa Naoki (with the necessary cultural adaptations) would be great. We could pull off both the grandstanding and the solemn tone. I might be the only one who feels this way though.
The jokes from the bridge scene went something like this: Kame and his friend, Koki, are talking about how Subaru and Kame loved the same girl but she went and left them both hanging, so now they have a bad relationship. Kame then says, "Enough about this story, there are lots more ladies here" (referring to the audience xD). Koki then says, "But this is the sea, those ladies are probably just fish". Kame says, "Really, these are just fish? What kind are they? They go fuafuafua" (as in, the girls in the audience are waving at him xD). So Koki says that they're mackerel. I think that part is quite funny. xD
Along comes Yokoyama, quoting the lyrics to "Seishun Amigo" (the theme song to Nobuta wo Produce which aired the year before), but he slips when he gets out of his "boat" and Koki teases him about slipping and generally acting like a kid. xD
After that we find out from Yokoyama that Koki has run up debts with him and that Kame is going blind.
Kame kneels down and begs Subaru to let him star in the movie (to sort out Koki's debts, I think?), so Subaru challenges him to a fight to win the role.
The random tree scene (there are lots of seemingly random scenes here and there xD)... Yes, they grew up together, and I guess that scene is meant to convey how much they grew apart as they got older? The three on the bench talk about growing up in an orphanage together, so that's why the violin guy comes out playing sad music. xD
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Ahh, Dream Boys. xD I'm glad you're enjoying it. The purple cape. xD
I was just going to rewatch the bridge scene but I ended up rewatching the whole first act, so these might be overly-detailed answers to your questions. Apologies for spamming you.
I think you've got most of it. Yokoyama, the guy in the suit, is a producer (and a schemer, loan shark and general bad guy, and also my ultimate bias xD) making a movie in which Kame is supposed to be starring as legendary boxer, Subaru. Kame and Subaru are rivals because they loved the same girl. Now they generally just don't get along, I guess, and Subaru doesn't want Kame in this movie.
Subaru is troubled because his little brother, the kid Yuuta, is in hospital with a weak heart. We find out later that Subaru has a boxing injury in his head and is losing his memories, and that Kame is going blind, also due to an injury.
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Jr. are definitely used as cheap background dancers, or even just human scenery. I tend to see "Johnny's Jr." as a really dodgy apprenticeship, where you do all the hard, dirty work for low pay, with minimal guidance, no glory and only a slim chance of a decent job at the end of it.
(Btw, I found out the Jr. Truth documentary was subbed, and there's a tiny bit about Johnny's and acting that might interest you. I'll PM the link.)
Sort of a tangent, but I think a big difference between Korean idol training and Johnny's training is that K-idols prove at audition/acceptance that they're worth the resources used to train them, whereas Johnny's only prove their potential at audition, and as Jr. have to distinguish themselves from the rest to gain opportunities.
Nojima Shinji, screenwriter for 49, Koukou Kyoushi and Love Shuffle. =) I plan on watching every one of his dramas at some point.
Lol, the (former) Kansai Jr. unit B.A.D in their sidekick roles are my joint Gokusen bias. xD But that's not to say I don't like Miura Haruma too.
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I think I'm going to miss SHARK when it's over. It's the only drama I've followed week by week this season.
My mother and I spent our Sunday/Monday together marathoning Ikemen desu ne. We even argued about the rating in the end. xD She wanted to give it a 10, but I'm certain that's just because this was her first Asian-style romantic comedy and everything is still fresh to her. She laughed at the funny parts and cried at the sad parts and wanted to watch one episode after the other, so she definitely enjoyed it, but she couldn't find the words to give a real opinion. xD
It surprised me that she liked it so much. In my attempts to make a fan out of her I'd been finding dramas similar in genre to the the Western shows she watches, but maybe that was the wrong tactic all along. xD
As for my opinion... I hated it. xD Just watching it made me feel like an idiot, the female lead was that oblivious. The male lead was a typical tsundere; I've probably been left with a permanant aversion to Tamamori's face with all the scowling he did. The second male lead was a typical nice guy, and just generally a weak character. I had third lead syndrome all the way through. xD And I didn't even understand the point of the conflict in the second half of the drama. Why not just forget the past and live for the future?
And I've got to ask: there was a scene in which the male lead says that the female lead would see stars if he hit her, and when she closes her eyes he kisses her instead. Was that in the Korean version too? It is probably the least romantic romance scene in anything I've ever watched. Anyone saying that to me would be the first to see stars. xD
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Along comes Yokoyama, quoting the lyrics to "Seishun Amigo" (the theme song to Nobuta wo Produce which aired the year before), but he slips when he gets out of his "boat" and Koki teases him about slipping and generally acting like a kid. xD
After that we find out from Yokoyama that Koki has run up debts with him and that Kame is going blind.
Kame kneels down and begs Subaru to let him star in the movie (to sort out Koki's debts, I think?), so Subaru challenges him to a fight to win the role.
The random tree scene (there are lots of seemingly random scenes here and there xD)... Yes, they grew up together, and I guess that scene is meant to convey how much they grew apart as they got older? The three on the bench talk about growing up in an orphanage together, so that's why the violin guy comes out playing sad music. xD
I was just going to rewatch the bridge scene but I ended up rewatching the whole first act, so these might be overly-detailed answers to your questions. Apologies for spamming you.
I think you've got most of it. Yokoyama, the guy in the suit, is a producer (and a schemer, loan shark and general bad guy, and also my ultimate bias xD) making a movie in which Kame is supposed to be starring as legendary boxer, Subaru. Kame and Subaru are rivals because they loved the same girl. Now they generally just don't get along, I guess, and Subaru doesn't want Kame in this movie.
Subaru is troubled because his little brother, the kid Yuuta, is in hospital with a weak heart. We find out later that Subaru has a boxing injury in his head and is losing his memories, and that Kame is going blind, also due to an injury.
(Btw, I found out the Jr. Truth documentary was subbed, and there's a tiny bit about Johnny's and acting that might interest you. I'll PM the link.)
Sort of a tangent, but I think a big difference between Korean idol training and Johnny's training is that K-idols prove at audition/acceptance that they're worth the resources used to train them, whereas Johnny's only prove their potential at audition, and as Jr. have to distinguish themselves from the rest to gain opportunities.
Nojima Shinji, screenwriter for 49, Koukou Kyoushi and Love Shuffle. =) I plan on watching every one of his dramas at some point.
Lol, the (former) Kansai Jr. unit B.A.D in their sidekick roles are my joint Gokusen bias. xD But that's not to say I don't like Miura Haruma too.
My mother and I spent our Sunday/Monday together marathoning Ikemen desu ne. We even argued about the rating in the end. xD She wanted to give it a 10, but I'm certain that's just because this was her first Asian-style romantic comedy and everything is still fresh to her. She laughed at the funny parts and cried at the sad parts and wanted to watch one episode after the other, so she definitely enjoyed it, but she couldn't find the words to give a real opinion. xD
It surprised me that she liked it so much. In my attempts to make a fan out of her I'd been finding dramas similar in genre to the the Western shows she watches, but maybe that was the wrong tactic all along. xD
As for my opinion... I hated it. xD Just watching it made me feel like an idiot, the female lead was that oblivious. The male lead was a typical tsundere; I've probably been left with a permanant aversion to Tamamori's face with all the scowling he did. The second male lead was a typical nice guy, and just generally a weak character. I had third lead syndrome all the way through. xD And I didn't even understand the point of the conflict in the second half of the drama. Why not just forget the past and live for the future?
And I've got to ask: there was a scene in which the male lead says that the female lead would see stars if he hit her, and when she closes her eyes he kisses her instead. Was that in the Korean version too? It is probably the least romantic romance scene in anything I've ever watched. Anyone saying that to me would be the first to see stars. xD