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It is not the in laws and the families that are always responsible for the/any marital problems. It is that they make them worst when the married couples can't work out their problems in private. If the couple inform them that they are thinking of a divorce, ( something that is going to happen by default when you fill for the divorce ) then they become part of the equation.

Also the case of my friend is not my only experience. I divorced too but at least I didn't have any children at that point and I didn't turn back to have a child with my ex husband.

If you make that come back with the hope that the child will resolve the problem ... that's it.... you are done... for good! And if there is already a child and you go for a second one hoping that this will solve the communication or infidelity or whatever other problem, then it is certain that you are going to end f@cked up. Because such kind of problems can't be solved with children, or by the children.

So in order to conclude and share a bit of my hard earned wisdom. Make sure that your relationships are stable before you proceed to have any children. And if something is that wrong that makes you consider a divorce then take the divorce and move on to find something better. Divorces are easy to get nowadays. And don't listen to any parents or in laws because in most of the cases their attitude is to retain the marriage just for the sake of the marriage at any cost without considering the mental or personal cost for those who will have to live under the same roof with a person that they don't appreciate that much anymore. The parents usually idealize the situations they don't live into these situations.

I noticed this too. That it was impossible to get into the phone call situation by the time that he prevented the kidnapping of his daughter.
This technically should have cancelled the whole plot!
But aside this, the thing that didn't make, for me at least, any sense was that he had flash backs from the time line that he was killed in the villa.
He didn't live as you think in both of these timelines and his memory couldn't catch up because he was dead in one of these timelines.
This time line was cancelled completely so he shouldn't remember it. How could he remember it? As what? As dead?! ha ha haaaaaaaaa sorry for laughing but I still find it very funny.

Anyway the problem with all these time travel dramas is that their scripts are probably not written and completed in advance in order to avoid the time travel paradoxes.

If the ML is killed in a past time line it is impossible to remember it in its present time line.
If he cancels the sequence of events that lead him to the phone calls, then the phone calls never happened and he probably wouldn't be able to cancel the kidnapping.

What I want to point out is that such kind of scripts cannot be written without preliminary plans. Which they don't use and that is the reason why most of these dramas have problematic plots.

But the worst was the Sisyphus one. By far. They lost and I've lost completely the plot midway. Nothing made sense.

I have wondered plenty of times if the actors that are cast for the roles realize what sort of nonsense they have to play. Don't they feel the need to point out to the director that the one or the other scene doesn't make any sense? looool

I haven't watched this yet. I liked though both W and Memories of Alhambra. Both had fantastic concept and effects.

Younger generations must learn how to be patient! lol

Yes it was better than some others, mostly due to the actor's performances, but the end was a mess.

But Sisyphus was the worst of all time travel dramas. The characters looked, from a point and on, like amnesiacs as they were unable to remember what they did in the same time line! The writers lost completely the plot in that particular one.

Kairos wasn't any better btw. The ML f.e had flash backs of his death from a different time line! That was the ultimate WTF moment of this drama!! lol

I know that but it is funny either way.

39 actors in the cast. 11 of them have the Kim family name. lol
How do they know that they are not relatives?!

If this is a time travel case .... brace yourselves for finale impact.....! lol

The contrary I'd say. Kairos and Signal had both messed up finales. Did Signal's end make any sense?
Generally speaking time travel dramas plots have to be written in advance something that K-drama writers obviously rarely do because they listen to their audience opinion.
And then they start changing the plot ending up with messy finales.

There is no need to know the particulars. Countless people in this world have done the same thing with the exact same results.
When you have filled for divorce once after the first child, then the divorce is inevitable.
And that because - as I mentioned previously- when you are married the process of the divorce includes more people than you and your spouse. It includes the parents and the in laws too, the lawyers and the law. They are already included in the situation and there is not chance to remove them afterwards.


The most extreme case that I've have heard was from a friend of mine who divorced with his wife, ( full divorce they were not simply separated) then they came back together, they re married they had their first child and then... they divorced again! I said to him back when that happened:
Were two weddings necessary in order to have a child and what was the point to have the child by the time that you had not resolve your personal/ marital problems. And he said that he thought that if they had a child those would be resolved by themselves. Which is not the case of course. But this was an extreme case because they didn't have a child during the first divorce so they should have ended the relationship there and move on in their life.
But I have heard about other couples who have done the exact same thing with this actress. They were thinking to divorce and then they came back together to have a second child.

Anyway.. she is neither the first nor the last that she has done the same thing. I wish her the best of luck in this arrangement of a marriage.

It doesn't have to happen simultaneously.
She filled first for a divorce and then she changed her mind and went on to have a second child with the guy that she was pretty sure that she wanted to divorce him and she already considered him not that good of a parent for the first child.
Do you find this reasonable?

It is not. When you get to the trouble to fill for a divorce, make the paperwork, hire a lawyer, inform him and his parents and your parents for the reasons why you think that your marriage can't go on, it doesn't make sense to go back and have after a while a second child with that same guy!

A second child can't solve the whatever marital problems.

Children should not be used as patches for broken marriages. If you have already fill for a divorce it means that you have already realize that your husband is not that good of a partner on regard of domestic matters which is the reason why you married him after all.
This doesn't apply to unmarried couples because this type of couples can live separately at any given time, without having the parents and the in laws interfere to their relationship.
Anyway... I wish her congratulations for the new baby and good luck for the rest.

The recipe for disaster. Filling for divorce ( not without some very good reasons to get into this trouble) and then instead of getting it, have a second child with the man that you considered as a not that good of a husband.
Congratulation and Good Luck!

And the reason why Stella didn't end up with Jang Sung Joo is because he was fat?
Jang Sung Joo is shown like a very decent and nice guy that was very close to her, but the writers thought that it was better for her to switch to Cha Soo Ho, ( in other words to show Stella's character as a a completely shallow and pretentious person) out of the blue just for the sake of matching the handsome guy with the pretty chick.
Cliche and sexist to the extremes.

The message is that an intelligent woman will never fall in love with a guy that he is not at least a model. Model like guys should be first priority even if they are idiots!! In other words Stella's intelligence is cancelled!

It is a drama but they wanted to make it as realistic as possible. And the easiest way to do this is by showing the rules and the protocols that are followed inside the autopsy rooms.
The Coroners and their assistants are obliged to wear masks, it is like law as otherwise can be exposed to any disease existent and spread it to the public.
The scene that they were locked down along with a body that they suspected that it had MERS that
Baek Beom was allowed to examine without a mask ( and without being fired on spot) is simply contradicting. Baek Beom should have worn a mask either way for this exact reason. Because the dead might have had MERS, or Ebola or whatever.

Episode 19 was completely off. No prosecutor should be related with the victims to avoid prejudice and manipulation of the evidences.

The fact that Kang Hyun was persuaded from the very start that Baek Beom was the culprit should have been a good reason to remove him immediately from the case.
Not to mention that he should't be in the interrogation room and bully the suspect. That was a completely unprofessional and illegal behavior ( it was not his right in the first place) and then he shouldn't quit by himself but be fired before even they had come to any conclusions about the case.

Anyway.. I finished this drama and I'm giving a 6,5 out of 10 due to the factual errors, over melodramatic scenes that kept going on for ever, a lot of unimportant scenes that were there to fill the running time, but mostly for the under developed second and third characters that looked in most of the cases like caricatures. The relatives of the diseased to bring an example.

Those who should get an ovation are those who played the dead!! lol

I'm watching on dramacool now and all and everything are called autopsies.

There are also plenty of other factual errors. On episode 19 f.e Kang Huyn shouldn't be allowed to interfere to this case neither interrogate the suspect, first because he is a prosecutor and prosecutors can't make interrogations but only interview the suspects after the latter have been charged with whatever they are accused for, and also because he is related with the victim.

I don't even know why they show him yelling to the suspect (Baek Beom) in the interrogation room. This is illegal.

There are probably different divisions in different countries but generally speaking a Coroner stands somewhat higher than a mere medical examiner.
Coroners have the qualifications that I mentioned in my previous post and are allowed to make autopsies and necropsies that is the Greek term for a post mortem examination, and it is not used in English language.

Autopsy means to go there and examine the crime scene with your own eyes.
Necropsy means ( in Greek) to examine the dead body. These are two different things but both are in the jurisdiction of Coroners but not in the jurisdiction of medical examiners.

I know that in English language is common to use the term autopsy for both the inspection at the crime scene and the lab, but these are two different things and in most of the cases they are not done by the same persons because sometimes it is simply impossible. Someone can be in one place at every given time.

But Coroners have the right to be in both places something that is not allowed to mere medical examiners who are working at the labs along with the Coroners. If for one thing the Forensics' personnel can not collect samples without the presence of a Coroner who is their superior and is there in some cases only for the sake of organizing the collection of the whatever samples are to be collected. ( in cases of murders and similar crimes).

Anyway... Looking down to a Coroner is the equivalent of looking down to a company's CEO. There are very few of them, ( compared to the number of medical doctors) and they occupy the top positions at Forensic services.

I'm currently watching episode 12 and I think that the English subs are a bit inaccurate on regard of Baek Beom profession. The guy is a coroner not just a medical examiner.
A coroner has the right to visit the crime scenes. Going to the crime scene to collect samples is called an autopsy. He also has the right to perform post mortem examinations.
Post Mortem, ( after the death in Latin) is to take the dead body and actually cut it to see what was the cause of death.
Anyway in this drama they have translated all about everything as autopsies and they have translated the profession of Baek Beom as medical examiner which is actually the job of his assistants.
He is a Coroner and he has every right to cooperate with the Prosecutors and not only write the reports but also say his opinion for the charges. Coroners work for the Department of Justice.

Now ... I don't really understand why the other medical or non medical colleagues of Baek Beom look down to him.
Coroners have in fact more qualifications than medical doctors and surgeons. They have to be qualified in both medicine and law, and also have qualifications in biology and anatomy.
All these combined need years of training and that is the reason why coroners are not that many as the medical doctors.
Medical doctors can't be coroners. but coroners can work as medical doctors.

Anyway another thing that I've noticed is that it shows Bake Beom perform post mortem examinations without the appropriate face protection which means surgical mask and shield. This is not what happens in reality and that because corpses have pathogens that are not harmful for the dead but they are definitely harmful for the living ones! So you will not see this happen in a real life post mortem examinations.

If that is the case and she knows the final outcome then she doesn't have any reason to interfere because the future is already manifested for her and because if she does so she will get into a time loop. She will have to go constantly back in order to change some parameters in order to get the future that she already lives in, risking at some point to fail, let her parents be killed and not even be born in order to go back.
This is btw the so called time paradox. If you travel in the past and kill your grandparents you will not be born in order to go back and kill them.
And that is the reason why most of the time travel dramas have illogical plots. You know, plot holes, continuity errors, surreal finales and such things! lol

Kim Young Ok is a character actress and that is the reason why she doesn't get lead roles.
BUT character actors and actresses are those who get more roles than those who run after the lead roles and as such they are those who have more chances to get the most interesting roles because they get more offers and they are cast more often.