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I did not watch the trailer but I dropped the show after 2 episodes. This is a show that has most of the scenes (at least in the first 2 episodes) supposedly happen in the ocean, with one "important" scene that was supposed to happen under water, yet it is so obvious the actors did not even go near the water that it hurts. The only water they saw was the water that was thrown at them for the scene where they supposedly come out of the ocean.

If the people who made this drama made no effort to make it look real, I don’t feel it is worth my time. Of course if the story was super interesting I could ignore the bad CGI, I have done it before, but even the plot and acting did not impress me.

Dropped after the 2nd episode. I was having a hard time liking the male lead or finding the story captivating enough for me to stay but for me what was the last straw was that the scenes were obviously fake.

If you are making a drama that has A LOT to do with the ocean don’t think you can get away with special effects. I do not know if this was decided because of the actors or the director but even in cheap soap operas from my country when they are drowning or fall into the water, they actually film them under water. They do it several times and then put it together to make it look like they stayed under water longer than they actually did.

Here the actors do not actually go under water or even near it (at least in the first 2 episodes) even when most of the scenes were supposed to be recorded in the ocean. They use a bunch of special effects that look fake and then just make the actors all wet and make it look like they just walked out of the ocean. This is like making a cooking show and presenting us with toy food expecting us to believe it’s real.

Idiots happened.

If you want to keep watching subbed dramas then you cannot do any of these:
-publicly share the link to the page/website/video;
-share the video itself;
-download and re-upload the video on other places (most of the time taking credit for it).

But of course there are always trolls that do all of the above getting facebook groups, youtube channels and websites taken down or making the fansubers give up because they keep seeing their hard work being shared everywhere even when they keep asking people not to do it.

The main reason this group got taken down is that it had way too many members, anyone could join, they had thousands of people in the group and in the middle of so many there were people who did not read the rules because they did not care or because their english was too limited, people who are trolls and shared the videos even when they kept asking not to do it and of course people who wanted to get the videos to re-upload them somewhere else and get credit (and money) for them.

I can’t say more because the person did not start the subs yet, but is is on the future projects of someone who subs chinese dramas actively. Once the person is done with the ones she is subbing at the moment, she will most likely start subbing this one.

The person herself should leave a comment here once she starts subbing the drama, if she doesn’t then I will let you guys know when it happens.

I have this drama on my list since I joined over 2 years ago and when I had lost all hope this would ever be subbed I found out it is a future project of someone I follow. ^^

I am actually kind of disappointed as I felt this special ended on the same note as the drama when it comes to the progress of their relationship. I was expecting more. Felt like watching it or not watching it would not have made much of a difference.

The idea was good, the execution not so much but for someone who usually does not like jdramas that much, this one was still one of the most interesting I have watched. As someone already said, I also thought the start was a bit slow, especially when this only has 12 episodes. The episodes near the end were my favourites.

Now I am going to watch the special because the ending here was not satisfying and I need more. It is still raw but I have been waiting months for the subs, it is taking too long and my listening comprehension of Japanese is good enough that I can understand what is going on so I will just watch it right now.

You’re welcome! Were you able to find the facebook group for this drama? If not I can send you the link in a private message.

Exactly. Last time I saw this happen in a drama was in Madame Antoine. I personally do not like when they "introduce" characters but they never actually appear.

Although I like most Tvn dramas and quite a few dramas where Lee Jong Suk played the male lead (W, I Hear Your Voice and While You Were Sleeping are a few examples), this one did not impress me. In fact I found it quite boring and took months to finish it even after it was done airing when usually it would take me a week max to finish a 16 episode kdrama.

The story was not my cup of tea, the characters were not that interesting for me, even the main leads and they did something that I can only remember happening in Madame Antoine and that I found quite dumb. They "introduce" a character that we actually never see or even hear the voice of for the entire drama. I personally do not like when they do this because it does not feel realistic for the viewers, the character we never see seems to be created just to give some depth to another character, but if that character never appears during the entire drama, even for a few seconds, what is the point? You either create a character and make it seem real or you don’t bother adding that character to the story since it would not even impact the story that much.

That said, I actually felt that episodes 10-16 were a little better but still not interesting enough for me. I felt I was forcing myself to finish this drama just so I could get it over with and say I watched it.

Of course if you like books and the idea of a story centred around writers and editors you might get more enjoyment out of it than I did. Not that I don’t like this concept, I have watched other dramas in similar scenarios, it is just that the way the plot and characters were written did nothing for me really.

The best solution is to wait for Lan Lan’s subs. She has subbed about half of it and she subs at least one episode per week. For patient people or people who really want to watch this with proper subs, it is the only way I know at the moment.

You could watch the first episode and then the last one and you would be able to guess what happened in between. That is how slow and predictable this is. Is it a bad drama? Not really. But it just isn't memorable or special in any way, especially when you have watched hundreds of dramas before this one.

I did not know that. That is a good thing. But of course there are always exceptions, so even in Thailand there must be some crazy fans and journalist even if they are few.

Yeah, actually I alredy knew but forgot. They have probably dating for many years but did not reveal it because they knew how much attention they would get, both good and bad, and probably just wanted to have a peaceful relationship out of the public eyes. Some journalists are always trying to find faults to make news and some fans can be pretty crazy...the dark side of being a celebrity.

Really? I knew they were really good friends and that Nadech could not avoid smiling everytime she was mentioned but thought that it might have been one-sided. I just hope they are actually dating and its not fake news or their company made them since a lot of people ship them together and it would be good for their image (it happens more often than we think).

But if it is true, then that is amazing. They look really good together.

Welcome to the club. I know exactly how you feel. My first thought after I finished it was: What am I going to watch next? Is there a drama out there that I would enjoy as much as this one and that I havent watched yet?

Maybe you are right. I have only watched the first 2 episodes so I have no idea of future revelations but with only watching the 1st episode, the killer’s actions weren’t making much sense. That is the beauty of it. Things are not always what they seem. Something that might look dumb or make no sense in the first few episodes of a drama could be later explained and turn out to be some amazing plot line and a plot that seems logic sometimes ends in a way that make us all go WHAT??

It was a little better or not as bad as some other chinese dramas of this genre that I have watched recently. I like chinese historical dramas but I have noticed the ones with a lot of fantasy/wuxia/supernatural elements are not my cup of tea. And most of them end in tragedy so I might as well just watch the ones that are realistic.

Yeah. I have to compliment the production team tho. They stayed true to the novel and did not avoid the tragic ending (honestly, this was tragic from the beginning with his betrayal when he killed her grandfather and then when they both lost their memories of each other) but for the people that like happy endings they made a few bonus super short episodes with them living together in the modern days. It was a smart move because they managed to please everyone, the fans of the novel and the fans of happy endings.

Although I know the reason why he turned out like this, it still did not give him the right to use other people for his own benefit ruining many lives in the process. In the end he "reaped what he soweth". Every action has consequences - good or bad. You cannot go around being cruel for your own selfish reasons and expect to lead a happy life after, especially when most of the cruel things you did or caused mainly affected the person you "love".

(I said "love" because I have a hard time believing he truly loved her. Sure, she was the most important person in his heart. but he did not love her more than he loved himself or he would have not hurt her several times for his own interests. True love means sacrificing your own interests for the happiness of the person you love and the truth is he never did that).

Yeah, but my vast experience from watching CSI, Criminal Minds and similar tv series taught me that most psychopaths are smart. And they also have their preferences like taking souvenirs with them or setting up the crime scene in a certain way, and when they do that it is because they want the police and/or whoever shows up there to see it that way, they think they are painting a picture or something. So it does not make much sense what he did here, seemed more like a mistake in the writing of the scene.