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First, a quote from the writer's opening example from "Ever Night": "I thought he was joking when he uttered those words and left with Sang Sang. My thoughts were, "haha. Good joke. He's going to pretend to walk away and then turn back. But nope, Ning Que is a selfish man whose sole purpose is to survive, and he could care less about a mission.

However, from the brief description, it is self-evident that the imminent danger is of zero interest to all those adult men who preferred to settle down comfortably and were not bothered by their guide. Their refusal to leave and their subsequent injuries or deaths was NOT the RESPONSIBILITY of the wiser man nor the maid he also removed from ultimate danger. Ning Que had informed the group that they did not have enough men or weapons to protect themselves. They refused to leave, saying that they did not believe him. So why blame the wiser, cautious individual who chose to live longer? The "arrogance" in the scene belongs to those who refused to listen or accept Ning Que's professional advice.

He certainly had not been a coward. It took the strength of will and character to turn his back on those fools when he had given his word. How is leaving a death trap that his experience revealed being cowardly? They were warned. They were able-bodied. They watched him take the one person who listened. HE DID WHAT HE HAD PROMISED TO DO, AND THEY COMMITTED MUTINY. They would talk about his lack of courage. On the other hand, he demonstrated a very short (but accurate) fuse for dealing with people who take profoundly ignorant risks with zero possibility of success. That decision tracks backward to his own rashness in accepting a mission without determining the type of men-children he would be herding.

Reading that Ning Que is considered a (totally) "selfish, uncaring man, who is solely interested in surviving" still mystifies me. I wonder why people watching would expect him to return to a pre-existing 'lost' situation and die in the expected ambush? When healthy, capable adults are informed of risk by experts and refuse to save themselves, who is responsible for them, other than themselves? BTS's certificate song, "Save Me," is NOT about a man with other resources. How long would that first episode be if all the cast members would die for people who did not care to live by standing up, packing their saddlebags, getting on their horses, and riding west out of the Danger Zone?

Just so curious because of the fascinating comment about the hero who was a grownup adult who saved his maid and himself.

And both have the capacity to like God's answer to prayer in times of great need. Both can act with amazing love, grace, kindness, generosity, understanding, sensitivity, humor, strength, forgiveness, joy, and to become angels we might be unaware of because many often act with no desire or need for recognition: it does not feel right to them because they gratitude is in the opportunity to pay back others for their kindness or God for God's kindness. The Bible speaks - in different places - of God as being a Father and a Mother; in Genesis, the language is that "We, God, have made them male ad female in Our image." That has always been clear to me since I first read it and has given me joy ever since.

I agree with you, PrettyCarEye, that " living in a patriarchal society does not mean she's automatically a victim, nor does it make the 'woman - good' or the 'man - bad.' People make choices and have to live with them. Even when we are young and untaught by those responsible for us, we often say and do things rashly. Even if we are right more than half the time, it can mean that we are wrong perhaps thirty-three-and one-half percent of the time, which is one-third. Making choices that we invest in to benefit ourselves might SOUND selfish, yet the reality is that if people are honest about pleasing themselves, there will be a large or small core of people the person loves who will benefit.

And the most ironic quality of love is that it's like the Sun, shining on the good and bad acting people alike, whether the good person might only be 80% good and 15% unfocused and annoying, plus 5% this person is a quiet, snide, and miserable jerk. The bad person is only 8% truly horrible, 12% really mean speaking mouth (sometimes alone and sometimes with others), yet LOUD at the same time, 15% unkind, 15% scared, and 5% tired all the time, 18% unhappy, and 15% ill with an ulcer. (I have dyscalculia and can't add with a calculator). I thought both sides were 100 points, but they're not.) 💜🙂💜

I've watched a "Witch's Romance" several times and thought that they were both excellent and highly believable. Well, having been in a noona relationship for a while, and know that the lack of marriage often has to do with other issues than love. Larry was ten years and a bit younger - 27 years to my 38 - and neither of us looked our ages. I originally thought we were probably the same age, so when we began seeing each other it was a non-issue. The reason that we could not ultimately get together was timing and his upcoming employment commitment six states away, straight East, which was very important in his life and professional journey.

With 'WR', I never saw the ending as final; I heard her as a woman still leaving a door open because she was not yet as committed and certain as he was. In my situation, leaving for someplace else was impossible. Two daughters, a home for them, a position of responsibility in the larger community to many people. had never "fallen" for anyone before, even if I liked the man, or with whom I was comfortable. It was never in my pragmatic nature to jump off a cliff, or even get near enough to one that I could fall of it. And after thirty-two years of emotional and mental abuse from family and the man they forced me to marry, finally being divorced a few years prior and learning how confined I had been, how little I knew had been overwhelming. Six years times 365 days later, I was finally okay and truly comfortable being free. It was a major life adventure.

So, on watching "WR", it is easy to hear her brief interjections of double talk that allows her to deal with a closet filled with old anxiety and fear, which fell new. Or, like a straight jacket. Her question is how can I believe this kid can be true to me. What proof is there? He's so easy. Just look at his years of solid faithfulness to the dead fiancee. Right. Yet, how can this person be a right for me as he seems: so many scary things to we believe we have to face and few become true.

I understood her issues with the former fiance and his betrayal, which is what it was. He could have called her to follow up instead of trusting the secretary. I could have praised the opportunity Larry had and talked with him about doing it there for a few years and then returning to my area. Fear keeps one or both arms stiff to push away one or both sides of the person next to us.

She loved the man in front of her deeply, yet she had found ways to keep him in a junior position until he was becoming uncomfortable with the lack of equality. Younger men are far more progressive and often walk the talk more, even if the job isn't equal, they still expect to be respected. They're much more fun and younger in so many excellent ways, such a sharing. My heart was crying more the couple weeks before Larry left than afterward, and it was very tough then. Listening to her self-talk was her effort to make the road to him more comfortable with each step she was taking. It was giving everyone in the world who knew them time to accommodate themselves to a new reality.

I know that if Larry and I had the time, rather than distance, we would have married. We had so much more in common than separately. I adored my first love when I was nineteen and had to break it off when he changed professional goals that were on Mars in relation to my comfort level in becoming Mrs. Mars. There was only an announcement and I could not walk that path next to him because he needed a different person, who was easy for him to find.

In "WR", becoming a physician would be a compliment to their relationship, not a hindrance. I'd bet she would marry him between three and five years later. Probably the latter. 💥🧡🙂💜😊💜🥰🧡💥

I can envision PSJ going for professional help from a friend who has been touring in the USA for several years now. When he's a guest on James Corden's Late Late Night Show and the other actors have introduced themselves, he will look ever so handsome and debonaire. He will wave at the audience and smile, and then will say: "Hi! I'm PSJ! I'm a Good Boy!"

Turning to James, he will add: "V sends his love!" 💥💜🙂💜💥

This is so funny, Ms. Bonnie. We both obviously are in a crush of serious emotional context over the charming, tall, dark, and not-too-bad-looking 39-year-old . . . such a great year for romance (I'll definitely give you credit for selecting a truly appropriate man with whom to attach the word). Once I found him last year, I spent a week watching half of his series and films (newest backward) and admiring the versatility he displayed.

The one where he falls for the beautiful, blind woman - whose brother was accidentally killed in a pedestrian crosswalk - was extremely poignant. I was surprised at the ending because it felt more similar to an unhappy Chinese production at times than the usual K-Drama. There would be so many lovely, quiet moments, and then the often creepy housekeeper/companion would unnerving in her fondness. If it had been an issue of direct, yet unrequited love, it would not have had the misplaced frissons of discomfort that I felt. Or, perhaps it is just me projecting my own discomfort with receiving too much (unrequested) help or support when I'm not on my deathbed. On the other hand, to have Mr. Jo happen by and stop to suggest a walk on a beautiful day, men, as well as women, could be enticed with nary an arm twisted.

Do you think murmuring loudly, 'He ASKED ME First, so just BACK OFF!' would be too crude and ill-advised? Especially - say - for a silver-haired woman of mature years who uses a cane to maintain the image of vertical alignment with walls, windows, and other necessary architectural features in most buildings? 💜🥰💜

The couple involved had no blood relationship and sharing a house with a non-blood relative is never a cause of incest. Having a blended family may mean both gain a close knowledge of the other individual's temperament, behavior, attitudes, and habits. Those alone would keep most people from a marriage without a bloodless relationship.

This is not a matter of physical science. but of the Human Law, also spiritual: Biblical, Judaeo, Muslim, and other majors religions.

Why is incest even mentioned when the two people involved have no blood relation due to a man, with a son, marrying a woman, who has a son and a daughter. The father's son and the mother's daughter eventually grow to love each other. Is there a law in any civilized countries that consider such a non-blood, non-heritage, non-genealogical relationship to be illegal?

The most closeness shared would be a knowledge of both individual's temperaments, behavior, attitudes, and habits. Those alone would keep most people from a marriage without a bloodless relationship. As far as blood goes between anyone sharing, it is important to be careful about any positive and negative blood types that are mixed in any future children.

This is not a matter of physical science. but of the Human Law, also spiritual: Biblical, Judaeo, Muslim, and other majors religions.

Aha! I thought the emphasis was on the parents having trouble with the teen and that the high school might be peripheral due to Jo In Sung. He's so lovely and such an effective actor, who wants to see him playing a dissatisfied, overbearing father of some poor, misunderstood, downtrodden teen. Waste of all our time.

Thanks for your clarification, Bonnie, I was optimistically imagining a smart, sophisticated series with great chemistry in the family, although the teen years are normally miserable for most, etc.

I guess this will be waiting for us to see what happens. 💜🥰💜

Silly folks!! Parents can be very romantic leads. Just because there's a teen in the house doesn't mean that romance has fled unless imagination has died. My most romantic years were when my daughters were adolescents and visiting their father on weekends. Well, we had been divorced for nine years. It was the best thing that happened after an arranged marriage that I neither wanted nor needed. Yet, life doesn't end simply because of stops along the way.

Sometimes, a stops now and then will gift you with the most precious tiny human or two whom you never knew you would need in your heart. Or that joy can come out of pain and that the love of your life would come along and be a bit over ten years younger. So, love can find a way to be romantic whether you are married or divorced, or even single. That is what it does if it is love and romance is still a large part of it, along with far more humor than you shared in the beginning because of how well you know yourselves and each other now. As long as there is life, there can be hope, and as long as there is hope, there can be love. 💜🥰💜

PLEASE change Jung Il Woo's picture! He's good looking a seriously devoted actor, and I admire his talent!

He's from "Hwarang!!" Highly anticipate his comeback!

Atlamisiam. you are not completely correct. What he did was to follow the commands of his bosses at the studio and release an 'All Purpose" apology that was is felt (my standard as an HR Professional of 34 years) to be extremely real, YET says not one word about who, what, when how, why, where, or even what might have been done to so grievously injure people in the past. Nothing he said relates to anyone anywhere specifically, yet the statement is full of grief. This was written by a very frightened young man knowing he was on the brink of losing his career and being caught up in a maelstrom that may have nothing to do with the reality of his life.

When I read what you and so many on this page are ready to use of evidence and little to none of you have given the normal fact of life in Seoul and the HUGE business is that for corruption via the constant stream of extortion cases through the Courthouse. There is so much graft that is a business the tax people out to be regulating as they probably do corruption. The case has spam, extortion, blackmail, etc. written all over it. Just look at what happened since Monday with Park Yoo Chun being back all over the news because, after nearly six years of unemployment, this gifted actor finally has a new movie he will be doing soon.

YET, the bigger news was naturally the trials he went through a few years back when he was accused by four women of sexual assault. Guess how many of the trials proved him guilty? I would bet a dollar that your mind leaped to GUILT!! That is what at least nearly eighty percent of people here, on Soompi and other places jumped to immediately; however; he was cleared completely - these courts DO regularly find men guilty - and three extortionists when to prison: two for 2 1/5 years and one for 1 1/2 years. Not long enough.

My best friend was telling me today that this is such a racket in Seoul that our US military (28,000+ military have been supporting Korea every day, every year since 1953 when the Korean War terminated indefinitely due to a cease-fire. It was never ended. So, in repayment, there are people who regularly target our military for large sums and the false witnesses or they will "ruin their careers."

They also have special services for mail actors who visit hotel bars for a drink: A few years ago, along with Mr. Park, there was Mr. Sunshine himself, Lee Byung-hun. Two women threatened to wreck his marriage if he did not pay up and they got to spend their vacation in prison. HOWEVER, it can damage or destroy people and the shadowy, invisible man slinging mud through the Internet.

Can you truly say this isn't bizarre and not how real people act? He has ruined Ji Soo in less than a day. And, he declares he'll never forgive or forget. So what does he want? My bet is lots of money. As for the girl/young woman in the toilet stall: at an ALL_BOYS Middle School. Perhaps the guy didn't do his homework OR perhaps Ji Soo went to a co-ED school and NOT an ALL-BOYS.

So, it's not as simple as most people want to believe to dump another human being because of a sensational slander and libel set-up.

Whoa!! Dr. Who follows K-Dramas!? Who knew!!

We have no idea from the accuser how many were bullied and when people are going to come forth and speak about this situation, yet he appears clear that no one is ever going to forgive or forget it. Ji Soo did not mention anyone in the apology letter. The accuser did no explain why during their middle school years he followed orders from Ji Soo. Didn't he have classes to attend? Why didn't he say no, or simply not show up for duty as assigned, or complain to the school authorities? His clearest specificity is about the girl in the stall (his information said he went to an all-boys middle school) and what Ji Soo allegedly coerced his friends into doing. And this young lady was supposedly silent the entire time, freely submitting to all of this humiliation or gratification (he mentions her as if she were a manikin rather than a human.) I've never known a seventeen or eighteen-year-old woman who would be housed silently in a men's restroom where a crowd gathered to watch or participate in her be humiliated. Was she unconscious?

This sounds so much like a scam, given the number of trials that include extortion. Information about the big payout Park Yoo Chun made in January to a person who had accused him of sexual harassment; however, there was no trial, just a hearing for the money that took place a few years ago. Maybe this accuser saw that $50,000US going out and thought about Ji Soo. Having been a Certified Human Resources Profession and several large and small companies for over 34 years, I have wondered if his company asked him for some details and coached him before sending him off to write an apology. His apology is completely an "All-Purpose" statement with absolutely no points for WHY he is making it. No names, no references, no schools listed, no parameters. He may not be meaning he's sorry for all that is on their list. Maybe he doesn't remember the particulars of Middle School which is a long time back. If this is real, stories such as this one will grow larger and gain more negative energy and power. More people are told and the storyteller is gratified.

This is a truly sad situation. Ji Soo had made many new friends in this production company yet. He was preoccupied, probably with learning lines, and if an introvert like I am, may not have noticed the office helper who expected him to be friendly and at least greet her or chat for a while; if he was distracted and sloppy, that was a mark next to his lack of friendliness, plus his treatment of his manager was terribly lacking: "Go get me some coffee." "Sure. Be right back." I can see that he didn't fit in with their type. He was either naïve, careless, rude, or ignorant. Or, he may just have had too much on his mind in a new production, didn't see the female whom he ticked off, dropped some paper because he was in costume, had no pockets, and was rushing somewhere. Or, . . . . Ji Soo obviously just wanted to get the confession over with and may not have taken the time to consult with the company. He may have been mortified, frightened about his future, and imaging the worst. Or the apology may have been so open because he felt terrible about what he might have done, so he made a heartfelt confession to cover what he remembers. You will never hear of Americans on our knees because of feeling awful over former behavior, yet I think great harm deserves at least that much. It is shameful not to do so.

Now, the company believes they're off the hook. Ji Soo may or may not have perpetrated all that the first person alleges and is very publically, exposed, fired, losing his reputation with people dividing down the middle. He may not have done all or much of what has been said. I am all for bullies being punished, but not without evidence and never because of anonymous, invisible people like the accuser. As long as he is unseen, he has every card and all the power. Why did they yield to the Invisible Man so rapidly? Maybe he did go to school with Ji Soo and has grown hot over the years seeing Ji Soo on his screen apparently becoming rich and famous. AND, when all is done, there may not have been a young lady in the stall of an all-boys restroom (Ji Soo evidently lists that he attended a female-free educational facility during this time). So, either the writer is fantasizing or the information on Ji Soo's paperwork is incorrect. The other matter is, that South Korea seems to have a well-established history of extortion that is focused on young, up-and-coming male actors and sometimes succeeds because of people hurrying to judge others (especially, if "sexual assault" is mentioned). From an HR Professional standpoint, the accuser clearly states that he will never forgive Ji Soo, so the question is does he want money? I hope that Ji Soo has a couple of friends who can watch over him and help him get through. IF there is anyone asking for money to make it go away, I hope he will remain calm and talk to the detectives who handle extortions. Or, if this feels really strange, speak with them first, for information.

Being an American Navy family with Dad spending thirteen+ years at sea from my birth until high school graduation at seventeen. I met several bullying in the many different schools I attended, and one left a scar slashed through my left eyebrow from where he smacked my head against the brick facing outside the school doors. It bled enough for the teacher to send me to the nurse and Jerry to the Principal's office. He threatened me on the way home, so I just looked at him and pointed to my eyebrow.

At my fifth high school, there were several juniors and seniors who wanted me to join their weekend party group: drinking, surfing, playing, and at the first invitation on my first day there, I told Larry (Capt/Football) said: "Thank You; however, I can't do it. You explained that I would have to change my clothing style to fit in and I prefer not to change. Then, you said that I won't fit in, So, I replied, I said, "Okay. Thanks! This means that I am fine with not fitting in. I'm an Arts major and also want to help with painting scenery for the plays. Larry, we have nothing in common." "Well, we have me!" That definitely caused a laugh to cover my embarrassment. I would have gone at least once if he hadn't applied pressure to my choice. A bully is a bully. Over the next four+ months most of the football team members or their girlfriends would ask me to go (in the halls, at lunch, or at events). They even sent students I didn't know to speak for their group, and I had a couple of teachers ask why. Both of them agreed my decision was best, but they had been curious. Most of the time it was amusing, but it was tiring also with notes in my locker or on my lunch tray. One of the loveliest girls asked me "Why?" after gym class; when I explained, she said that she didn't understand. I was not going to admit that we would each bore the other since our lives were alien to each other. She told me that Larry would not give up and I replied that he was too good-natured to consider kidnapping. Even though she laughed, then the thought crossed her mind, and she quietly said, "No." Yet a bully is a bully and they don't always know how far they will go themselves.

The only people who truly bullied me were my parents and my ex-husband, who still uses his influence with our daughter, yet I will not yield. He does this with our daughter who wanted his approval and love so much, that she became decided it was easier to deal with one, rather than two. I will never say anything about her choice because it has to be hers. People who are supposed to love you are not supposed to be your enemy and they are the hardest to handle. Sometimes we may only have the courage of our convictions and the determination to do what is right for ourselves and if we have dependants, for them also. What works for me is knowing what I need, saying what I want, what I can give, and what I can't, speaking quietly, kindly, and firmly. Smiling and being gentle with people when they haven't gotten their way often helps a lot.

Ah, I can understand when someone says, "I don't really have Korean actors that I like except Park Seo-joon." I have enjoyed all of his that I've seen in my eighteen months of watching K-Drama's; and, I totally love Hwarang, What's Wrong with Secretary Kim, Kill Me, Heal Me, and Witch's Romance even though I have watched most of his at least twice. With these four I have lost count.

When he filmed Witch's Roman with the amazing and beautiful Uhm Jung-hwa, he was 25 and she was 44 playing a 39 year old woman. Someone commented about the age difference and Seo-joon replied, "Have you seen her? She's a very beautiful woman who is a lot of fun. This will be great." I so loved that attitude because it seems so typical of him: lots of common sense and a great sense of humor. It's great to see another 'non-fan' who just happens to like Park Seo-joon.

Yes, absolutely! I love watching Jo In Sung's projects, whether films or series. He is easily convincing in whatever he does and is a delight in serious or more light-hearted media.

Well, they began checking the bribery allegation twenty months ago. Evidently, they did not get very far because nothing has occurred since then about it. I just hope that this not-too-inspiringly titled film will help him come back to series work. He's one of the best actors I've seen since watching Korean Dramas.

Park Yoo Chun was proven innocent in a trial that resulted in one woman and two men being sent to prison for extortion. BTW, there was a second court case (BUT WAS NOT A TRIAL) about which the statement has been speciously made: "there was NOT Time for a Trial, BUT IF THERE HAD BEEN, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND QUILTY because the Jury thought he was guilty." Obviously, the attorney and others who are promulgating this bizarre statement ACTUALLY believe that it is the SUM of Jurisprudence for an individual to be convicted without a hearing, testimonies, evidence, witnesses, etc., takes place IF "THERE WAS NOT TIME!" I have heard many irrational statements in 77 years on this planet, but this one is the All Time Low when the volunteer advocate - who may or may not know the individual whom Mr. Park had to pay 56M won ($50K+) - has stressed that he "would be guilty anyway because the entire jury all agreed that he probably was. My understanding is that she - the woman who has written so much on this channel about Mr. Park's victim (without the trial) - is not an American because she offered me help in translation since Korean is not my native language. All the Koreans I know are American citizens, and in the US, we tend to become extremely upset about not having due process in our trials and for our people.

If I had presented such illogical information when I was seeking funds for not-for-profit organizations, I would have been blacklisted the first time out as incompetent and just plain stupid. However, it takes no discernment, intelligence, or basic human care to condemn others without due process. It occurs every day, with others not taking a Nano-second (a billionth of a second) or less (a Yocto-second 10⁻²⁴ second is a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second to think, "What if I were in that person's shoes?"

Mr. Park was found completely innocent of a trial about having assaulted three women, and three extortionists - one woman and two men - were given prison sentences. However, there was another hearing that WAS NOT a trial because "THERE WAS NOT TIME" for a trial to see if he was guilty of sexually assaulting this fourth woman. The only purpose of the hearing was to determine how much money she could get from him because she had been innocently dragged into the first trial, had to be in jail waiting for her hearing while being slandered every day in court and online. She was totally miserable from that and wanted compensation for her misery. She wanted $50,000+US / 56M Won. Oh, and by the way, it appeared that everyone her attorney spoke to on three juries came away from Mr. Attorney elevating chats believing that if LIFE HAD ONLY BEEN FAIR and IF THERE HAD ONLY BEEN TIME, they could have thrown the guilty sucker in prison.

But since there was no time for an important, time-consuming TRIAL, the jury would just need to happy to approve reparation of her losses, and - AT THE SAME TIME - she and her attorney happily continued fomenting all the accusations hearts desired to slander AND libel Mr. Park. Doing it so backhandedly was masterful, and people would find it difficult to come back against the attorney and his female client for slander and libel. However, since the Korean courts in the huge justice center have found some men guilty of sexual assault and others innocent of it, with the not-uncommon matter of extortion lurking in the background, it seems that the system still works both ways. AND the "evidence" about Mr. Park Being "guilty except there being no time to hold the trial", is a lie believed by the unthinking individual who may not be human, just a zombie in good clothes and makeup.

Netflix has been making 'original' series and films every year with these contracts as the producers - the people paying for each one to be made - of their shows. They haven't simply been buying licenses. Crash Landing on You is one of the best and it is listed as an "original series." Just check their listing over the titles.

The smartest thing that any American company could do is to go overseas for fresh films, dramas, and comedies. Our U.S. "creatives" have lost their minds over recycling superheroes who "go out to save the world" while showing city after city being destroyed while they do it. AND THEN, citizens who supposedly have lost their families, homes, and jobs in the destruction what these high-lives to return every year ARE EXPECTED to be grateful!? The taxpayers who be in the U.S., as if they/we have lived in a normal world the past several years. I can relate to so much I see in Asian dramas, especially Korean.

While the triangle love affairs are often boring, the human loss is absent, and the third member is often giving the lead role in his or her next drama. : )