I'm not sure if we are watching the same drama. Shi Yi was the biggest victim of them all. She was being used…
I think that Shiyinang is a good person. She is not s saint but I do not see her as selfish. Yes at the beginning she kind of blamed her sister for her mother’s death. Because according to her rationale if her sister didn’t scheme for Shiyinang to marry Wang Yu, her mom and her wouldn’t have had to leave at different times. Ernang schemed first and kept on telling her to not talk to Houye and be happy with her new position as the soon to be wife Wang Yu.
Shiyinang after hearing what Ernang said is totally justified in giving her portrait to the matchmaker. Wang Yu was the one who came and raised a fuss and assaulted Ernang. He demanded to marry her and since he treated her that way basically manhandled her, if word got out that she was kissed and grabbed by a man, I am not sure other men from good families would have wanted to marry her. Ernang had to marry him, her head mom and father demanded it. Children obeyed their parents, Fleeing a marriage was really bad. If she left she would have no prospects. She wasn’t talented like Shiyinang to support herself.
Also, Shiyinang was powerless to help her. What could’ve she had done? Sorry but Ernang made her bed. It was really unfortunate for her, if she didn’t trick Wang yu things might have been different for her.
Shiyinang told Houye about her sister and Houye got Wang yu to stop treating so badly for awhile. And Shiyinang tried to help her sister after her sister’s husband died. But her sister was easily manipulated by the Ou wife that she didn’t even appreciate anyone in her family’s help. There is only so much you can do for family. She helped as much as she can, her sister rejected it.
I don’t think that she manipulates people either. She only calculates against others if she is schemed against, for example finding justice for her sister. Shiyinang’s calculations didn’t harm anyone’s life. Scared them yes, but it was because Concubine Quia felt guilty. Shiyinang reminds me or Ruyi, from Ruyi’s royal love in the palace. Both woman don’t go put to scheme or calculate against others, but will only do it to fight back or to find answers, or to seek justice. She isn’t just going to sit around and turn the other cheek. Her nephew/stepson’s life was being threatened, her life was being threatened. If she has the ability to preserve herself should she let bad scheming people get away with it.
Shiyinang isn’t a bad person not is she a saint. She is kind and loyal to those who are good to her. She isn’t perfect, but she is definitely not as bad of a person as you make her out to be.
I think that the MIL acts the way she does is because she has seen alot of infighting between di and shu children. Alot of times this happens is the way these children are treated.
wait so based on ep 1 he has 3 wives and 2 kids already plus one of the wives is the sister of the female lead?
Well technically he has one main wife who is sick plus two concubines. Concubines weren’t considered wives. But yes there 3 women in his life plus two kids. This was very common for the time period for rich, noble families.
https://youtu.be/NsE6YUhw9o4Preview for ep 38. Let the speculation begin. Who's the spy? I first thought it looked…
Thanks for posting the spoiler. Is there another link for ep. 38. Youtube says that it isn’t available in my country, I live in the U.S. by the way. Thanks!
I’ve just started the first episode and am massively put off by the dubbed voices!! Seven and Wallace have lovely…
Seven dubbed her own voice I believe. Wallace’s voice is dubbed because he is a native Cantonese speaker though he speaks Mandarin well, they probably wanted to make sure his accent doesn’t show.
I got used to it. I really like the voice actor’s voice they used, it’s very smoothing. They used same voice actor as Ye Hua from Ten mile of peach blossoms.
I will respectfully disagree with you labeling FL as frigid. She has her reasons and while said reasons may not…
Historically yes they most likely would’ve consummated their marriage on their wedding night. That was the expectation because men needed heirs. However if you watch and understand the ML’s character and how he is depicted, waiting for her makes sense. He already has a heir and a spare. He has a brother who’s wife is pregnant. He doesn’t need any more children. His wife is young and unexperienced and on their wedding night she obviously didn’t want to be intimate with him. She is 10 yrs younger than him. Also as he slowly falls in love with he wants her to love him back. Forcing someone who is not ready is not the way to make someone love you back. Plus they only been married for a few months.
In regards to the female lead, she is young and unexperienced. She doesn’t want to be pregnant. It was dangerous back then to give birth. The Chinese saying is that giving birth is like taking a walk or something death’s door. She doesn’t love him yet, she had a mission, she also doesn’t want that kind of life. Why would she give herself to him?
I like their interactions and they are getting. He loves her already but before episode 28 she isn’t quite aware or sure of her feelings yet. I actually like this slow burn romance more realistic in my opinion.
I will respectfully disagree with you labeling FL as frigid. She has her reasons and while said reasons may not…
Their huge misunderstanding was that she thought he shot an arrow at her mother and consequently killed her. She was led to believe this because of the false witnesses that the SML found for her. Then at the embroidery shop the FL tried to stop the ML from hurting the Sm by placing a pair of scissors to her neck. She stepped backward and tripped on a spool and in order to break her fall, the ML grabbed her. Unfortunately she stabbed the ML by accident.
Before he left for his task , the ML wrote her a hi li book, a amicable divorce in order to protect her from his mother.
Could someone explain to me episode 26? What was happening with that concubine? She got busted, which was so satisfying!!!…
The FL let herself be kicked out of the Xu household. She and Houye pretended to get into a fight back at her Father’s house, because Concubine Qiao had spies in her father’s house. Since FL was kicked out and ML started treating her better, Qiao believed that she would be the next main wife of the Xu family. In order to tie up loose ends, she wanted to kill the servant who she told to mess up Yuannang’s medicine, leading to her illness and death.
Concubine Qiao decided go to farm and kill that servant. Fl was there and accused her of killing her sister. Concubine Q admitted to it and sent men to kill the FL. At this time the ML leaps out to protect the FL.
Concubine Q admits that she was wrong. She said that FL was also wrong too. But ML had two witnesses that attest to Concubine Q’s crimes.
Later on, Concubine Q wanted to see the Ml and a huge fuss for him to see her. She told him that only she was good enough to be by his side. His first wife didn’t understand him and the FL isn’t born well enough to be by his side. The ML said that it’s not about one’s status at birth but one’s character that is important.
Concubine Q was originally sent away to a farm but she got sent to a nunnery. Her mother pleads to Grand mother Xu to let stay in the household but she was rejected.
Concubine Q’s mom visit her daughter and told her that she can take her away. And if they get they will just get ppl to get punished in their place. Her daughter said for her to let her stay. She already gave her all to fight for what she wants and now she has no more wants. Her mom apologies to her for teaching her how to be conniving. She forgot to teach her that some things you can’t manipulate and connive to get.
The ML and FL go to her father’s house and they bring gifts to apologize for the huge ploy. Fl’s headmom finds out what happened to her daughter and is got a stroke.
In episode 28, the two concubines went to the embroidery shop and saw Sml hand on Shiyinang’s shoulder. Xu Liying…
And Ou, the SML, addresses her by her name. That is probably what set the ML off to, since he drew his sword on him. Later on, at the farm he does address her more formally when her husband is around.
But I think that the SmL followed her to the farm is that he felt guilty over what happened. The witness he found was unreliable, gave false testimony. He caused this huge misunderstanding, the ML got stabbed indirectly. Therefore, he had to make sure that the FL is okay. Plus maybe he still harbors some feelings for her. He isn’t going to act on it but hopefully those feelings are not more platonic.
But yea him getting too close to her can all sorts of rumors to happen. And can definitely be grounds for divorce if her husband’s family suspect some sort of affair between the two. I am glad that by now Concubine Qiao is kicked out otherwise, Shiyinang would have been treated far worse by her MIL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2SiIyjjZ_kCould someone explain this wedding scene?I'm very curious! Do they…
I think that the wedding scene were they are tied with red strings are part of a promo video depicting how they are tied by fate, the red strings.
In other videos you see them in red and the FL is wearing a phoenix crown I believe, that is when they are going to court. I believe they are both being rewarded or she will be conferred into nobility and given a title. In the storynof Minglan, Minglan gets a because her husband’s work for the country. In other videos I saw I think that fifth wife and Grand Madam Xu have similar outfits with the same type of headress.
Concubines are slaves, property. They don't get an official wedding, don't come in through the main door and they…
Sui chi is divorcing a wife which I believe to be disgraceful and shameful for the family.
He li is like an amicable separation. From watching Sotry of Minglan, Minglan’s cousin was threatened with a sui 休書. At the end they ended up he li and she got to keep part of her dowry. She might have been able to keep all of it but that was her ex husband’s terms. But with he li a wife can leave without any difficulty. She is not disgraced and unwanted basically. Being sui is essentially saying we don’t want u etc.
But after a woman separates amicably by he li she can remarry.
I will respectfully disagree with you labeling FL as frigid. She has her reasons and while said reasons may not…
I don’t that they have been married a whole year. It’s been a few months. LOL her sister in law is still pregnant. When they got married the sister in law was pregnant and she just started showing.
I think that ML is depicted as someone who is very disciplined. He is literally the head of his family and he doesn’t have any vices. He is very orderly and just wants an orderly household. He does his duty and was going to do it on his wedding night her because he remembered his promise to her sister. She obviously didn’t want to. He isn’t going to force her. As he slowly got to know her and fall in love with her he is willing to wait until she is ready.
They have started to be more comfortable with each other and shared a kiss which she reciprocated before their huge misunderstanding. I don’t think that the lead is frigid either. I think that she’s young and experienced and doesn’t even understand fully how she really feels about the ML.
Since their misunderstanding the FL has realized more of her feelings toward him, but he is now pulling away from her. So it it up to her to woo him now.
Someone, please, who understands Chinese could summarize chapters 28 29 and 30 so please help kill our curiosity…
In episode 28, the two concubines went to the embroidery shop and saw Sml hand on Shiyinang’s shoulder. Xu Liying heard them talking and rushed to the embroidery shop. He got upset with the Sml, and pulled his sword on him. In order to stop any bloodshed, Shiyinang, put a scissor to her neck to get him to stop. She tripped over a spool and Xu Liying saved her from falling but accidentally got stabbed by her. The two concubines came back into the shop and saw that Xu Liying was wounded and FL has blood on her hands. The ML threatens to throw them out of the house if they talk about what happened. The ML is unconscious for 2 days. FL by his side watching and taking care of him. The MIL wants to know what happens to her son but he forbids them to report the incident. The ML then writes a divorce letter ( from watching the Story of Minglan, this letter is like an amicable divorce. This letter is different from the first fake divorce letter) to Shiyinang. This letter would allow her to leave and basically absolves her of harming him. ( Don’t quote me but I think that it is against the law to harm the nobility and officials of the quote) Also, another way the General protects the FL is to leave for his assignment so that no one will find out that she stabbed him accidentally. The FL finally understands what he did for her to protect her in leaving, while wounded, and writing that divorce letter. Before he left, she also explains to him how she was trying to find her mom’s killer. The General was heartbroken because he felt as though as love was one sided and her feelings for her were no more than what she felt for the Sml.
Episode 29
During this episode the MIL finds out what happened by beating the two conbubines, Concubine Wen split the beans. She is very upset and the house steward comes in to report that Xu Liying died from a fire. She wants to sentence the FL to death with poisoned wine. However, the FL doesn’t believe that the ML is dead. She says that she will accept any punishment after he comes back. After listening the pleads from every family member, Grand Madam Xu relents and sends FL to the countryside to be treated as a servant.
During her time at the countryside, the FL is doing alot of manual labour and she finds out thwt someone is trying to hurt her. She founds out that the second steward in charge of the farm is trying to harm her. The Sml, Ou guy( hahah I forgot his name) was helping her fill the water
etc. They caught the second steward as he was trying to kill the FL and just they are trying to find out who was behind him, the second steward was shot with an arrow. Men, assassins, in black come to attach the farm. The Sml tells Shiyinang to run and suddenly the very much alive General Xu comes out to attack the assassins. Episode 30 The couple have a talk about what has been going on and the ML pulls away from the FL’s touch. Turns out that the General feigned his death as he suspected that someone was following him. They leave the country farm and arrive home. Grand madam Xu is delighted that her son is alive and was appalled that he brought back Xiyinang. The ML lies and says that he wasn’t hurt as severely as his wound was all a ploy to trick the Ou family. Later, Xiyinang tells her husband about her suspicions of finding the same embroidery pattern on Concubine Wen’s son’s handkerchief. They conclude that Concubine Wen wouldn’t have colluded with the Ou family because of her love of her son. The general forbid Concubine of ever mentioning the incident again.
Any have links to watch trailers for the episodes that haven’t aired yet? I found some yesterday morning on youtube, however, I can’t seem to find them anymore.
I really like this drama and can’t wait for more episodes.
Yes at the beginning she kind of blamed her sister for her mother’s death. Because according to her rationale if her sister didn’t scheme for Shiyinang to marry Wang Yu, her mom and her wouldn’t have had to leave at different times. Ernang schemed first and kept on telling her to not talk to Houye and be happy with her new position as the soon to be wife Wang Yu.
Shiyinang after hearing what Ernang said is totally justified in giving her portrait to the matchmaker. Wang Yu was the one who came and raised a fuss and assaulted Ernang. He demanded to marry her and since he treated her that way basically manhandled her, if word got out that she was kissed and grabbed by a man, I am not sure other men from good families would have wanted to marry her.
Ernang had to marry him, her head mom and father demanded it. Children obeyed their parents, Fleeing a marriage was really bad. If she left she would have no prospects. She wasn’t talented like Shiyinang to support herself.
Also, Shiyinang was powerless to help her. What could’ve she had done?
Sorry but Ernang made her bed. It was really unfortunate for her, if she didn’t trick Wang yu things might have been different for her.
Shiyinang told Houye about her sister and Houye got Wang yu to stop treating so badly for awhile. And Shiyinang tried to help her sister after her sister’s husband died. But her sister was easily manipulated by the Ou wife that she didn’t even appreciate anyone in her family’s help. There is only so much you can do for family. She helped as much as she can, her sister rejected it.
I don’t think that she manipulates people either. She only calculates against others if she is schemed against, for example finding justice for her sister.
Shiyinang’s calculations didn’t harm anyone’s life. Scared them yes, but it was because Concubine Quia felt guilty. Shiyinang reminds me or Ruyi, from Ruyi’s royal love in the palace. Both woman don’t go put to scheme or calculate against others, but will only do it to fight back or to find answers, or to seek justice.
She isn’t just going to sit around and turn the other cheek. Her nephew/stepson’s life was being threatened, her life was being threatened. If she has the ability to preserve herself should she let bad scheming people get away with it.
Shiyinang isn’t a bad person not is she a saint. She is kind and loyal to those who are good to her. She isn’t perfect, but she is definitely not as bad of a person as you make her out to be.
I think that the MIL acts the way she does is because she has seen alot of infighting between di and shu children.
Alot of times this happens is the way these children are treated.
I got used to it. I really like the voice actor’s voice they used, it’s very smoothing. They used same voice actor as Ye Hua from Ten mile of peach blossoms.
However if you watch and understand the ML’s character and how he is depicted, waiting for her makes sense.
He already has a heir and a spare. He has a brother who’s wife is pregnant.
He doesn’t need any more children. His wife is young and unexperienced and on their wedding night she obviously didn’t want to be intimate with him. She is 10 yrs younger than him. Also as he slowly falls in love with he wants her to love him back. Forcing someone who is not ready is not the way to make someone love you back. Plus they only been married for a few months.
In regards to the female lead, she is young and unexperienced. She doesn’t want to be pregnant. It was dangerous back then to give birth. The Chinese saying is that giving birth is like taking a walk or something death’s door.
She doesn’t love him yet, she had a mission, she also doesn’t want that kind of life. Why would she give herself to him?
I like their interactions and they are getting. He loves her already but before episode 28 she isn’t quite aware or sure of her feelings yet.
I actually like this slow burn romance more realistic in my opinion.
Then at the embroidery shop the FL tried to stop the ML from hurting the Sm by placing a pair of scissors to her neck. She stepped backward and tripped on a spool and in order to break her fall, the ML grabbed her. Unfortunately she stabbed the ML by accident.
Before he left for his task , the ML wrote her a hi li book, a amicable divorce in order to protect her from his mother.
Since FL was kicked out and ML started treating her better, Qiao believed that she would be the next main wife of the Xu family. In order to tie up loose ends, she wanted to kill the servant who she told to mess up Yuannang’s medicine, leading to her illness and death.
Concubine Qiao decided go to farm and kill that servant. Fl was there and accused her of killing her sister. Concubine Q admitted to it and sent men to kill the FL. At this time the ML leaps out to protect the FL.
Concubine Q admits that she was wrong. She said that FL was also wrong too. But ML had two witnesses that attest to Concubine Q’s crimes.
Later on, Concubine Q wanted to see the Ml and a huge fuss for him to see her. She told him that only she was good enough to be by his side. His first wife didn’t understand him and the FL isn’t born well enough to be by his side. The ML said that it’s not about one’s status at birth but one’s character that is important.
Concubine Q was originally sent away to a farm but she got sent to a nunnery. Her mother pleads to Grand mother Xu to let stay in the household but she was rejected.
Concubine Q’s mom visit her daughter and told her that she can take her away. And if they get they will just get ppl to get punished in their place. Her daughter said for her to let her stay. She already gave her all to fight for what she wants and now she has no more wants.
Her mom apologies to her for teaching her how to be conniving. She forgot to teach her that some things you can’t manipulate and connive to get.
The ML and FL go to her father’s house and they bring gifts to apologize for the huge ploy. Fl’s headmom finds out what happened to her daughter and is got a stroke.
But I think that the SmL followed her to the farm is that he felt guilty over what happened. The witness he found was unreliable, gave false testimony. He caused this huge misunderstanding, the ML got stabbed indirectly. Therefore, he had to make sure that the FL is okay. Plus maybe he still harbors some feelings for her. He isn’t going to act on it but hopefully those feelings are not more platonic.
But yea him getting too close to her can all sorts of rumors to happen. And can definitely be grounds for divorce if her husband’s family suspect some sort of affair between the two. I am glad that by now Concubine Qiao is kicked out otherwise, Shiyinang would have been treated far worse by her MIL.
In other videos you see them in red and the FL is wearing a phoenix crown I believe, that is when they are going to court. I believe they are both being rewarded or she will be conferred into nobility and given a title.
In the storynof Minglan, Minglan gets a because her husband’s work for the country.
In other videos I saw I think that fifth wife and Grand Madam Xu have similar outfits with the same type of headress.
He li is like an amicable separation. From watching Sotry of Minglan, Minglan’s cousin was threatened with a sui 休書.
At the end they ended up he li and she got to keep part of her dowry. She might have been able to keep all of it but that was her ex husband’s terms.
But with he li a wife can leave without any difficulty. She is not disgraced and unwanted basically. Being sui is essentially saying we don’t want u etc.
But after a woman separates amicably by he li she can remarry.
I think that ML is depicted as someone who is very disciplined. He is literally the head of his family and he doesn’t have any vices. He is very orderly and just wants an orderly household. He does his duty and was going to do it on his wedding night her because he remembered his promise to her sister. She obviously didn’t want to. He isn’t going to force her.
As he slowly got to know her and fall in love with her he is willing to wait until she is ready.
They have started to be more comfortable with each other and shared a kiss which she reciprocated before their huge misunderstanding.
I don’t think that the lead is frigid either. I think that she’s young and experienced and doesn’t even understand
fully how she really feels about the ML.
Since their misunderstanding the FL has realized more of her feelings toward him, but he is now pulling away from her. So it it up to her to woo him now.
The two concubines came back into the shop and saw that Xu Liying was wounded and FL has blood on her hands. The ML threatens to throw them out of the house if they talk about what happened. The ML is unconscious for 2 days. FL by his side watching and taking care of him. The MIL wants to know what happens to her son but he forbids them to report the incident.
The ML then writes a divorce letter ( from watching the Story of Minglan, this letter is like an amicable divorce. This letter is different from the first fake divorce letter) to Shiyinang. This letter would allow her to leave and basically absolves her of harming him. ( Don’t quote me but I think that it is against the law to harm the nobility and officials of the quote) Also, another way the General protects the FL is to leave for his assignment so that no one will find out that she stabbed him accidentally. The FL finally understands what he did for her to protect her in leaving, while wounded, and writing that divorce letter. Before he left, she also explains to him how she was trying to find her mom’s killer. The General was heartbroken because he felt as though as love was one sided and her feelings for her were no more than what she felt for the Sml.
Episode 29
During this episode the MIL finds out what happened by beating the two conbubines, Concubine Wen split the beans. She is very upset and the house steward comes in to report that Xu Liying died from a fire. She wants to sentence the FL to death with poisoned wine. However, the FL doesn’t believe that the ML is dead. She says that she will accept any punishment after he comes back. After listening the pleads from every family member, Grand Madam Xu relents and sends FL to the countryside to be treated as a servant.
During her time at the countryside, the FL is doing alot of manual labour and she finds out thwt someone is trying to hurt her. She founds out that the second steward in charge of the farm is trying to harm her. The Sml, Ou guy( hahah I forgot his name) was helping her fill the water
etc. They caught the second steward as he was trying to kill the FL and just they are trying to find out who was behind him, the second steward was shot with an arrow. Men, assassins, in black come to attach the farm. The Sml tells Shiyinang to run and suddenly the very much alive General Xu comes out to attack the assassins.
Episode 30
The couple have a talk about what has been going on and the ML pulls away from the FL’s touch. Turns out that the General feigned his death as he suspected that someone was following him. They leave the country farm and arrive home. Grand madam Xu is delighted
that her son is alive and was appalled that he brought back Xiyinang. The ML lies and says that he wasn’t hurt as severely as his wound was all a ploy to trick the Ou family.
Later, Xiyinang tells her husband about her suspicions of finding the same embroidery pattern on Concubine Wen’s son’s handkerchief. They conclude that Concubine Wen wouldn’t have colluded with the Ou family because of her love of her son. The general forbid Concubine of ever mentioning the incident again.
I found some yesterday morning on youtube, however, I can’t seem to find them anymore.
I really like this drama and can’t wait for more episodes.