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I read the book through google translate to my interpretation might not be perfect. But LBY took his revenge when he did because his mom/aunt died. She has been drilling into his head to take revenge, since she saved him from her husband’s troops. She was also the only person who can vouch for his real identity. Back then it is a huge crime to kill one’s father, and he had pretended to be Ling Yi’s son for many years. Also, he decided to kill Ling Yi and all of the Ling clan because the Ling family, through Ling Yi’s brother’s branches where planning on marrying therefore expanding their family.
LBY didn’t want to have to kill more people and he didn’t have enough evidence.

So unfortunately, his aunt/mom’s death forced him to act sooner than he wanted. He also didn’t marry CSS because he didn’t want to involve her on her family with his actions. If he is convicted of killing the Ling family and for using the CP’s tiger seal to move troops to kill the Ling family than CSS and her family could be implicated too if they were married.

LBY did regret his actions and didn’t want to be separated from CSS after she had helped to verify his identity that he was General Hou’s son and not Ling Yi’s son. However, the empress wanted them to be separated since all of this happened.

So the above is the author’s rationale for LBY’s actions. The drama might changed some things however. From my understanding too back if someone killed your father you are morally obligated to take revenge, or the revenge is justified. Personally, revenge is not a route I would take, but I am not LBY and I did not grow up in those circumstances.
So far the drama has done a great job in showing us flawed, gray characters. I am excited to see more episodes and how everything unfolds.

Poor Ah Fei risked becoming an eunuch to go visit him too. Ha!

Yes Mingland was smart. She also learned alot from her grandma. Unfortunately, css didn’t have a wise elder to mentor and love her.

Plus CSS’ is less patient than Minglan. CSS has street smarts and is cunning, Minglan is truly smart.

The link to the novel is http://www.zhangzaixi.com/shuku/xinghancanlan/195653.html

I finished the novel a week ago. I skipped the very beginning and started reading after she in LY broke up

You might be right LBY killed those favorites. I went back and started rereading from Chapter 102 and how the emperor punished those girls’ brother’s and fathers by demoting them.
Chapter 103 opens up with how the 5th princess found her favorites dead after she was locked up for a few days in the palace. So LBY probably killed them cause it didn’t say that who did. But the 5th princess was punished too by her parents.

But she was punished
mainly by setting up CSS of murdering Lou Yitong’s maid with a scarf. The maid accused LBY of molesting her or something.
I don’t see this story line in the drama yet.

I think that from CSS’s perspective is that the CP married his current wife because he partly felt sorry for her and he married her because he sees his mother in her. Not physically or personality wise but how she is treated. He also felt that since the other girl was renowned for her abilities that she will be married easily.

I read or watched from somewhere that Reba herself didn’t want to have a kiss scene with him in the Long Ballad due to his age. She didn’t want to start fans giving her negative comments and press I guess.

I might have read it wrong, because I used google translate, I thought that as part of the 5th princesses punishment the emperor orders that all of her male favorites/aides/advisors killed. So after the personal went home to her palace she came upon all of those dead bodies.
SS’s revenge was swift and stinky in the book.

Maybe from the emperor’s personality he just doesn’t like doling out severe punishment and his nature is to be more forgiving. So this and the dynamics between the emperor,
empress and Consort
Yur makes
the palace
a more
nicer place
than in
other dramas.

However, my point is even if this is historical fiction this world is has rules and laws. There are consequences for breaking the law. I can’t predict how severely or lightly characters
can be punished but there would be some punishment otherwise the emperor will be
ineffectual as a ruler.

So the worst case that can happen to CSS for forging a fake tiger seal, which is a worse crime than the one her great uncle committed
is death for her and her family. Banishment or being put in jail is
another possibility.

LBY gets punishment and sent to fight in the border wars isn’t a light punishment. The borders are a harsh and banishment was seen as pretty bad. He could also die at any time. True he didn’t get beheaded but his banishment at least fullfilled the punishment for using the CP’s troops without permission.

You're right that the emperor is more benevolent than other emperor’s in other dramas. It is true that only one person was shown to be executed but he was executed after hu zhujen begged the emperor to allow it.

I can see the other ministers not letting this issue go because lost/ theft of the seal implicates the CP. I do not know how severe CSS would be punished.

In regards to her great uncle, I believe that he was banished, which in itself was pretty serious punishment back then.
Also the reason why the rest of the Cheng family wasn’t punished is because CSS turned him in.

Again I don’t know how severely, CSS or her family would be punished if this how situation was known, but I believe that she would be punished somehow.
There are rules in the palace too. CSS unfortunately had run ins with two bad tempered, mean princesses, and luckily she got away each time because she was saved.

This dramas depicts the palace as a more serene place because both the emperor and empress are kind. But there are still rules that need to be followed and people can still be punished if those rules are broken.

I agree with you. Physically a 15 can be a married and have children. But just because someone is physically mature doesn’t mean that they are mentally mature enough. Even during those time periods.

So CSS is still a kid who has no responsibilities yet. She is also human and will be prone to making mistakes.

I believe that the book is set during the Han dynasty and based on historical figures. The book and dramas depicts a fictional version of the Emperor, Empress and Consort Yue based on history.
So this drama could be considered historical fiction and not an entirely made up world that is set in fictional Han dynasty setting.

In regards to the emperor, sure he is benevolent but he needs to follow the rules of the land. Lying to the emperor is a capital offense. Even if the emperor wants to be more lenient he can’t. He has to uphold the law and his officials would do what they can to make sure that he upholds.

If the emperor wants to hold onto his authority than he must uphold the law and punish those who break them.

Even CSS’s grandma is afraid of someone over hearing her if she talks badly about the emperor in her own home. So even if this drama's setting is completely fictional, it is still pretty grounded, CSS would be punished and most likely her family too.

It’s the girl from the preview in chapter 39. She had to marry someone else while the CP married the CPrincess. That lady in episode gets excused of murdering her husband and the CP is implemented by rumors of his involvement.

I just have to say that CSS is very able in handling the family issues that the emperor has with his unruly relatives really well. These matters are all domestic issues, and not matters that affect national security, such as the tiger seal incident.
CSS was masterful in putting those women in their place and saying just the right things. It was all very satisfying.

I think what Pearl Harbor was trying to say that the emperor gave the tiger seal because the tiger seal is a symbol of importance and is used to deploy the army. So in giving the tiger seal to the CP, the emperor greatly trust the him.

The stealer of the CP is in the wrong. And Marquis Yue stole it and most likely colluded with the Crown Princess’ cousin in stealing it.

CSS’ plan though not foul proof only helped the theft not be found out in the meantime. CSS though she had good intentions still committed a great crime in the eyes for the law. If the forgery was found out there will be grave consequences. So here actions though from good intentions are reckless. Luckily she had LBY help her out. But if this issues was ever exposed than there will be consequences for all involved even LBY.

The stealer of the tiger seal if he was found out will be severely punished too.

So in the matter of principle than the CPrincess should have like LBY said admitted guilt for it was her cousin who caused the tiger seal to be stolen. The CPrincess was the one who gave the CP the idea in the first place. The admission of guilt from the CPrincess could’ve absolved the CP of wrongdoing in losing the tiger seal. But the CPrincess did not want to take responsibility for this. The CP was shortsighted in trusting the cousin of his wife and making him his personal guard just because he is a relative of his wife.

Actions made from good intentions can be wrong. CSS committed a wrong , by breaking the law, even though her intentions were good and luckily she didn’t get caught.

You’re right, CSS is very stubborn and has too much pride.

The CP is a good person but not a good ruler. He cannot like the third prince place the law of the land, the good of the country above family. The CP would have been off at a lord who enjoys his own pursuits and leaves the governing of the country to others.

As I said above both the forging of false coins and forging the false tiger seal is bad and wrong.

The third person forged fake coins for personal gain is wrong. Plus she was trying to frame Wang Li’s uncle for it.

Creating a fake tiger seal is much worse than making fake coins and circulating it into the economy. Even though CSS had good intentions and she could have fooled everyone initially, but the fake tiger seal cannot be used by General Wan. It’s not a foolproof plan. Sure it could have absolved the CP and CPrincess’ cousin of losing it initially, but General Wan could later be accused of losing it because what he had is a fake. And it would delay the mission because the army would not march out for a fake tiger seal so the truth would eventually be found out.

CSS had good intentions but she was still wrong. She did not think long term of the consequences. LBY could’ve been in trouble too if the emperor looked closely at the tiger seals he swapped out, the tiger seal that the CP has and the Hou family has have different patterns on them. So LBY saved the day but CSS was again reckless. The forging of the tiger seal can lead to unintentional consequences for everyone involved if it is found out. Again CSS has been really lucky to have people or someone ( LBY) help her behind the scenes.

LBY and CSS need to communicate better. But I think with her personality CSS most likely wouldn’t listen. She is the type that has to burn and hurt her hand before she realizes that the fire is hot. That is why her mother tried to discipline her and teach her but her mom’s methods were too harsh and CSS wouldn’t follow her mom’s teachings.

I have learned that doing things that are wrong even though the intentions are good can still makes it wrong.

Making fake coins is bad because it causes inflation and the economy of the country can be ruined.

Losing the tiger seal hurts the country because the tiger seal is what the soldiers follow not the general himself. The army follows whoever bears the seal, this is evident in a lot of ancient Chinese dramas.

If the emperor finds out about the tiger seal that the CP has is a fake not only the CP gets implicated, the empress, and CSS and all of her family.
In ancient China it is against the law to lie to the emperor. And forging a fake tiger seal is huge lie. It is possible that CSS’ whole clan can be implemented. Worse case is death for all of CSS’s family to the ninth degree and best case is to be sent out of the country.

Both scenarios are bad. But the tiger seal forgery and the loss of the tiger seal is worse because it involves the safety of the whole country.

yes after watching that part, CSS is really audacious. If LBY didn’t give up his family’s tiger seal than CSS would have been implemented along with the empress, CP etc. She is just trying to get away with stuff for the moment and not thinking long term. Armies follow the lead of whoever has the tiger seal, if it was found out that the seal was a fake than General Wan would not be able to use the army. There are too many implications and it’s all too risky. Politics especially back than was very lethal.

The third prince probably didn’t know that his uncle was going to steal the tiger to make the CP look bad. It all worked out okay but LBY really needs to talk to CSS about this because yes she is saving the people she cares about but what she did was reckless and could have implications in the long run. CSS has been very lucky so far.