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I'm laughing because I also call Ray Raymond when he pisses me off. There were a lot of Raymonds happening last ep.

And yeah we're just gonna have to suffer another round of the Ray and Sand show, but maybe they'll fight right away and then it'll be done. And then Sand can start macking on everyone else in the cast. I have an agenda okay he needs to kiss everyone.

LOL he said that episode 11 is perfect and full of love, and everything is as it should be.

I will DIE if that is what happens. I will cackle my way straight into an early grave.

Seriously though. If Ray had just taken ten more seconds to be a shitheel, Sand could have had his lips on his Feddie Mercury cosplay soulmate. And before that there was that Amm girl. Also scared off by Ray (it's funny people keep saying Ray wants a threesome but he only ever uses them to scare away Sand's potential partners no way he'd actually go through with it, the loser - but the fact that Sand isn't into it either just feeds my headcanon that he had one with Top and the ex)

This hurts me.

I just think it's horribly unfair that he hasn't. Everyone else has! *stomps foot*

I'm not really on the Sandray train either (frankly I expect Ray to get worse and I'm just pretending that the preview for next ep doesn't exist so I can live in my happy bubble where Sand sticks to his guns and gets the fuck out before he's broken), but this isn't shade at Ray! I just want Sand to spread the love around. With his mouth.

That would be fun. I am for any scenario that gets Sand kissing people that aren't Ray (no offense to Ray for once, I just want him to make out with the whole cast plus hopefully Mix and we've only got four eps come on show)

I definitely vote Boston. I don't think Ray would care if he were sober and not coming hot off the heels of a Mew revenge kiss, plus it would be super fun to watch Boston seethe with jealousy

I wouldn't mind Sand stepping in to help Nick out. And in a show of gratefulness Nick kisses him on the mouth. Win/win.

Sand is everyone's actual dad in the show. Probably only Boston finds that hot.

Not a chance in hell.

I mean, a lot of times it does go that way? But people never pick the second guy.

But also I need Daddy Dan to be a creep so I can't join you in this wish even a little, sorry. 🤷 The heart wants what it wants and all that.

And maybe Sand'll save Nick.

Yeah a triangle has to be really really well done for me to enjoy it - pretty much the only one in recent memory for me was Light On Me. Pitch perfect every damn step of the way, even if I got a little worried that my favorite wasn't goona get the guy, lol.

And yeah, this one is just soul sucking. It doesn't help that they pretty much never give them a sweet moment without shitting on it right after, so it's like...do you want me to be invested in this ship or not? Because if the answer is not, then you're succeeding with me. I hope they do something with Ray's addiction stuff, even without Sand. Like. Can we please address the alcohol soaked elephant in the room, show? As a treat?

The bath scene was good, but my personal favorite was when Hira got stabbed and Kiyoi lost all of his shit. See now, that's the kind of thing I like.

Yeah it was out there with a machine sub - not great but I was desperate. I am excited for it to get on Viki.

I think the love triangle is part of it for me too, but also I'm just not really into the whole one character pines helplessly while the other does not care and/or actively uses the pining character to make themselves feel better while the true love of their life is off with someone else thing. Love triangles are on thin ice with me as it is, but this one just drains my energy and it looks like the show is gonna drag it out through the final episode. Sand is too passive and Ray is not invested enough for me to be into it. I need either mutual destruction or mutual obsession and this is giving me neither. But ah well. I can get through it for the rest of the show.

And yes, part of my annoyance is that I'd rather they focused on the alcohol addiction, but I have to again come to grips with the fact that what I want doesn't matter because that's not the story the show is interested in telling.

Doing too much is exactly it haha. I just can't with them, and I'm just sort of getting through their scenes anymore while i wait for the interactions I am interested in. I just have to accept it's not for me.

The movie comes out on Viki this month. It is also very good in my opinion, but then I loved both seasons.

Unfortunately it's the only reason I have. He wants Mew to love and Sand to love him, in his head they're totally separate and since he doesn't love Sand, he just wants Sand to take care of him and pay him attention and give him all his time (as he wants to do for Mew), he doesn't see the problem. Sand is to Ray what Ray is to Mew. I genuinely don't believe either Ray or Mew are using Sand and Ray respectively on purpose (at least not with the intention of hurting them), but their relationships are the same.

Yep, but @Changdol mentioned Psynergic has the full reaction on Patreon.

Does he? I'm not sure I think he's gone that far. That he's realized he's happy with Sand I get, but that he's *more* happy then with Mew? Debatable, especially when currently Mew is indulging his worst habits instead of criticizing him for them.

(I am aware he's an addict and that these aren't merely "habits". But for lack of a better one to use, I use that)

I like everything *but* the SandRay stuff lol, but as I've already explained it's just not my particular brand of messed up. 🤷‍♀️ But I'm having a lot of fun anyway.

He doesn't though. That's my point. He needs to let Sand go. Whether he decides to let Mew go, eh. He seems to really like hopelessly pining for a dude who doesn't want him.

Oh I really like Taikan Yoho. Japan is always good for that weird obsessive stuff - how do you feel about Utuskushii Kare / My Beautiful Man? That is one of my faves. 11/10, watch it all the time.

I think that's why I hate SandRay so much. Because i can very much see how it could be my thing, but Sand pining helplessly after Ray while Ray uses him is the wrong kind of toxic for me. I'd be more into it if they were mutually destroying each other but just watching one character be destroyed is a little too much. Doesn't help that said character is played by First, lol.

Yes I love his mom. They are great together.

I like the reactions i watch because they tend to be very grounded, and I am not - I feel like I get too involved sometimes in the fandom bs and the behind the scenes stuff, and then I watch these reactions and see how people who are just having fun and aren't tied into the reams of discourse react and it calms me down.

I definitely have to look into Psynergic because I bet he has stuff to say dealing with his degree.