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What Zoro1711 said, plus in China (Korea and Japan too) there is an idol profession. These are people who sing, dance, appear in entertainment programs and sometimes play srials. They are usually pretty and have some talent, but no professional acting training. They are amateurs. XZ was an idol when he starred in The Untamed, for example. It was an idol drama. Since XZ starred in the theater, he is seen as an actor, not an idol. He has made a career change. Now he is not expected to look pretty and attract audiences with the fact that he is famous. He is now required to be able to act at a high level. An idol can play well, the best example being XZ himself in his early years playing in TV series. This talent allowed him to go to the next level despite the fact that he did not finish acting school.

I agree with Zoro1711. It all depends on the scenario and whether the character is interesting to XZ. However, it may be difficult to see him again in something like The Untamed or TLP due to the fact that xianxia is not a genre where an actor can thrive. However, there are other costume dramas like wuxia or historical drama, and I'm sure XZ will be happy to star in those. So instead of an immortal cultivating on a sacred mountain, we will rather see him as a general leading the Tang army. My private opinion is that XZ will enter wuxia or realistic warrior roles, as he will have a good background in martial arts and horseback riding. If audiences like the new film, and I suspect they will, Xiao Zhan will stay in a similar genre for a long time. The only question is whether he will return to series or stay in film in the coming years, but no one knows, since we have no insight into the c-ent's backstory.

No, TLP is not considered that way, but it carries the characteristics of an idol drama. It is not considered so if only because XZ, despite not having completed acting school, is not considered an idol and Ren Min is a professional, although young, actress. It can be associated with idol drama because it is xianxia, so an undemanding genre unlike more serious dramas. In my opinion, TLP combines the qualities of both, but because of the pair of main actors and the actual efforts in production quality, it is not an idol drama. It is xianxia of high quality.

I had a great time on episodes 9 and 10. I was reminded of how when I was in the early years of elementary school some of my classmates clung to our teacher's skirt. We were then 6, maybe 7 years old. It's cute how SY can say without saying anything, "My personal space is my personal space. Get lost!"

That's what I thought, because I've been following information about this drama rather closely. Thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, except these are 10/10 ratings, just check the review on MDL. It used to be that there wasn't even an option to mark that you finished watching during the brodkast of the drama, so I thought I missed something. Anyway, thanks for the info.

Hm, you may be right, for me, however, there was still too little SY to be able to say that this character is written well. SY simply had too few scenes. I think the script didn't include instructions like "SY holds back so as not to show FL that he thinks she's stupid." That's why I think the credit goes to the actor. The character seems interesting, I just can't tell how much of it is the script and how much is the work added by the actor. If XZ actually influenced some scenes or dialogues, it's also the actor's influence. And I'm skipping the book altogether. I focus solely on what the drama shows me.

Where can I watch all 40 episodes? I saw in the review that several people have already finished this drama with all 40 episodes, and on WeTv last time I checked there were only 8.

He is definitely interesting to watch.

Thank you. I am also curious to see how the drama will develop and most importantly how the characters will develop.

I will definitely keep watching because I am looking forward to the moment when SY comes down from the mountain where he lives. I don't know under what exact circumstances that will happen, and I'm curious about it. I do know that SY will undergo an emotional transformation, and for me that is the most significant part of the story. I also have a strong desire to watch ZY's character development. Ren Min is really good in this role. I treat the first episodes as a not very interesting but necessary introduction. I just hope it won't be too long.

After eight chapters, I like the drama less. I still think it's done well for the current times and for China, but the plot got even more generic and I lost interest in the main characters. As for me, there are too many sweet romantic scenes here that don't follow from anything, but this is a typical convention for teenage girls, where cause and effect doesn't count, only beautiful, sweet romance. To tell the truth, SY or maybe XZ doesn't suit me in this drama. It's the way this character is played. YGY is a trivial story on the acting and plot level of an idol-drama or typical xianxia. XZ is as if he came into this drama straight from the boards of a theater, where every sentence spoken, every facial expression is taken seriously. He doesn't play with theatrical emphases, but stands apart with style. Like a true non-mortal who doesn't want to bother with the affairs of this world. Paradoscally, this dissonance is interesting. I have the impression that XZ forcefully wants to give depth to a character who, based on the script, does not have that depth.
The CGI is better and worse, but when the attacking monster reacted with "shyma?!" I almost cried from laughter. Of course, the beast didn't say anything, but the expression on its muzzle was just that.
And one more thing, I love how SY reacts to ZY's stupidity. My reactions are almost the same as his :)

Right, the songs are good, but I regret that the music does not reflect the mood of the scenes. There were scenes where the actor does everything to move the viewer and I'm already ready to cry, and I can't because the music is just meh. I'm sure the songs were written by someone else, because they are really good :)

After six episodes, I think that visually the drama is much better than I expected. They really made an effort to make it look good. The acting is ok. I'm amused by the scenes with Chong Ming and SY's retorts. Zhu Yen is annoying, the character has a lot of room to grow and Ren Min definitely gives a good performance. Ren Min has talent and I expect beautiful scenes from her. Xiao Zhan's acting differs from others. I won't say it's better, it's different, more.... mature, as if he prepared every scene really well. The camera and light work is good, much better than in most c-dramas. The atmosphere of the drama is light, it's kind of a fantasy fairy tale for teenage girls. The plot of 2ML and 2FL is painfully generic, even simplistic. The music is boring, monotonous, doesn't emphasize the atmosphere of the scenes and knocks me out of practically every scene. The composer should get a kick in the butt for what he did because it spoils my impression of the drama for all 6 episodes watched. Music for me 0/10. But other than the music, the drama is surprisingly ok. I like (although I have some negative comments) the show and the leading of SY. It's interesting, original and that's enough for me to keep watching this drama. Well, and Ren Min's eyes can really play. I haven't seen her in another drama, so I don't know if she could do it before. When she was angry and hurt to the point of tears, she really won me over. A star is growing.

Don't drag me into the fan wars, because I'm not a fan of anyone. If you took the trouble to check one or two dramas I rated two years ago, why don't you take the trouble to check others? Why don't you check how people treat me on the WYB screen ex-partner forum? Check what kind of dramas I rate high and what kind of dramas I rate low without looking at the actor, because I've seen several hundred more dramas than those in which these actors played and I've given a lot of 1's and a lot of 10's. But with you, fans of the actor (any actor), it all boils down to the fact that if someone gives a low rating it's solely because they hate the actor. Forgive me for repeating myself, but there is such a thing as plot, cinematography, costumes, music, dialogues and yes, acting, but not of one actor, but of the whole cast. An example of The Wolf, plot average, many scenes leave much to be desired, but the commitment of ALL the actors is thrilling. Having a weak script they pulled off something super. At least for me. Ever Night had its little flaws, but season one was brilliant (two is a sh***). Since you're doing an investigation into who I am and what I like, do it properly. Check out my lists of what and how I score and why, and don't limit me to these two actors, because contrary to certain groups of fans, it's possible to enjoy a movie not because of the actor alone, but the whole thing. But fans are always oversensitive and will turn every word into hatred against their idol. And you will never be able to understand that normal people don't really care what kind of budding actor plays in a given production. Normal people care that the role is played well and that the whole production is done well. You don't have to be a fan of HC to know that he was the one who saved The Witcher, and even being a fan of WE, you can't say that she saved Blood Origin, because it couldn't be saved.

But you fans are amazing. A good director has made an intriguing, interesting film with some great, established actors, and you bring everything down to the level of your idol. Don't you feel embarrassed? This is exactly why I have nothing to do with ANY fan club. And if anyone feels like discussing with me further, feel free to PM me, because I don't want to make a public circus with you.

P.S. I went through your list and this one tells me a lot. What is on it and what is not. I think I've seen more c-drama, k-drama and j-drama than you, so I have a slightly different perspective than someone who is just starting out and has seen 1/20th of what I have.

Yes, I guessed that. Revenge is revenge, but revealing that the guy is alive and what he did is revealing the truth, so I guess I can put an equals sign. What can I do, I really don't like this type of heroine :(
Maybe I'll come back to this drama when I'm in a different mood :)

Actually, I'm fed up with what's going on in showbiz not only in China. I'm talking in general now, not about this particular film. Critics are easy to buy. The water army is hired not only for hate but also for positive reviews and positive traffic. I have seen this hundreds of times. Someone will read a post on TW, Weibo or wherever, and while they have no idea who the person who wrote it is and whether they got paid for it - praise or hate all the same. And sometimes you just have to do the capital a favor to get money for the next project. I read some of the comments below and thought to myself that, again, no one is paying attention to the actual value of the film, or lack thereof, just fans arguing about how wonderful their idol is. Is it impossible to watch any movie or TV series without such arguments in the comments? And while we're at the comments, many passersby are unhappy with the film. It is dark, has little dialogue and the difference in the class of actors is clear. And then I read comments that there comments were written by the water army because WYB is an excellent actor ie they put him at the level of veterans. There are two sides to every coin (at least in most countries). I trust neither those who cheerfully give fives nor those who maliciously give ones. And people argue about how excellent was which actor, which nobody has seen anything and is based only on what someone somewhere said or did not say. Sorry, I couldn't stand it. Can't you argue about it after seeing the film? At least each side will have arguments in the form of a well or badly played scene and the discussion will be basic.

Thank you for your patience. I've said what I had to say and I won't take up any more space on this forum or read the comments, because it makes me sad that a movie is not being roped in as plot, cinematography, special effects, characterization, costumes, music, sound, just as whether a particular actor is good or not.

It got off to an interesting start. ML is intriguing. But then they introduced FL, who is an absolutely typical k-drama annoying journalist who fights for the truth and acts like, well, I'll withhold words. I hate this type of heroine. The cinematography is ok, but they try too hard to keep the thriller atmosphere and that blue lighting or filters are tiring in the long run. At the end of the first episode there is a scene in a car that was shot poorly. To tell you the truth, I didn't finish the first episode and have no opinion about this drama. So far I've been interested in ML, but the rest is severely average or below. I'm not criticizing the acting, but the idea of characters who are so typical that it hurts. The plot, too. I took it on hold.

I know what you mean. Their eyes were natural, sincere, full of enthusiasm and determination. I'll also throw in Ji Sung from his youthful years. Their eyes, but also their acting, made me wait with bated breath for the atomic bomb explosion that was their talent. But age and experience do their part. I'm not saying they became bad actors, they just evolved. Maybe the roles they get now are more controlled, less explosive. But I remember that when XZ appeared, I immediately associated Kaneshiro. There aren't many actors with that kind of atomic quality in their eyes. It's a shame, because this is a completely different and intriguing genre of actor.