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No one outside China has seen it yet, and people are already arguing that the actor played badly or that he played brilliantly. Fans call haters anyone who says a bad word and act like fanatics themselves.
I haven't seen the movie, like probably everyone here, but I know one thing, if anyone thinks WYB can match TL's skills at this point, they should think twice about what they think. An actor who has been at the top of the world for several decades is not a little trafick star who is just learning acting with better or worse results - and the result is a matter of taste. So if someone doesn't like someone's acting, it really doesn't mean that they hate that person and live only to hate them. He just doesn't like that person's style, that person's face, etc. If you show me a WYB fan who likes absolutely all actors, I will still consider that person a hypocrite, because you can't like everyone, or at least no normal person can like everyone. So let's respect each other, and just as fans delight in the genius of their deity, non-fans have the right to express that they don't like it. We live in a free world.
By the way, I heard that the film is supposed to be released in theaters in Canada and the US, although I don't know if that's true. Probably so, because there are sizable Chinese minorities there.

Thank you for only half calling me crazy and a troll :)

In the comment I responded to previously is the statement that everyone in the West loves him. Not everyone does. During the period when I was a fan, I shared his songs, funny videos, showed pictures with my friends. Not a single person showed more interest than "oh, that's the actor you like." And I even had to deal with a person who hated him for the way he played WWX and for three years made fun of me for liking how the guy climbs up on the roof and drinks wine. My comment was meant to show that not everyone in the West loves this actor.

Spoiler alert for embarrassing scenes, although I don't remember all of them either. The best example is Ace Troops, where XZ had the absolute best scenes. The whole arc at the front is excellent, but already the scene when he talks to the sergeant at the station where the sergeant says he is like a brother to him is played poorly. Xiao Zhan acts as if he doesn't know what to do with himself as an actor. His acting completely took me out of the mood of the scene. When his friend was in the hospital, XZ was standing in a corner with no idea what to do with his hands, face, etc. In the first episode of The Untamed he was excellent even as a background and played the role brilliantly, but in Ace Troops he came off as clumsy, and that was at odds with the character. TOoL is a drama played generally poorly by all the actors. No critic, no filmmaker spoke well of it, because there was nothing to speak of, and the drama's popularity is the love of XZ and YZ fans for their idols. Paradoxically, I think XZ played his best before he went professional. He had natural talent and really embodied the character even if it was written poorly. In Ace Troops, XZ is very uneven, as if in scenes belonging to Gu Yiye he gave his best and in scenes belonging to the latter he thought he was supposed to be invisible. Maybe it's a matter of the scenes having had different directors. But I as a viewer don't care what happened behind the scene, I care about the effect on the screen. I have reservations about some of the scenes in Douluo Dalu, but that's more a matter of individual taste, so I don't give examples.

The forum space on MDL is shared. Whether you are a die-hard fan or a passerby, everyone has the right to express their opinion. If, according to you, someone who is not a die-hard fan and dares to speak up without singing songs of praise about the actor should seek help to combat their problem, I'm tempted to ask if you have a problem with three views. But I won't ask. Instead, I will answer your unasked question. Yes, I do have a problem because an idol/actor should make fans happy and to me he hasn't made me happy for a long time. I don't care if we don't get interesting series, interesting stage performances, participation in entertainment programs or enjoyable songs because of his ambition. I am not his mother to involve my life in his future. I haven't received anything interesting from him for a year, no positive energy, so I'm officially back to being a bystander. This doesn't mean that I'm not going to follow his career and his series, it's just that the sight of him no longer produces dopamine, oxytocin or other happy enzymes in me. Maybe a new series will make me fall in love again, maybe not. But seriously, if you start treating everyone who doesn't sing songs of praise about some actor as a hater... Well, let me close the statement at this point. Have a nice day :)

P.S to all. Even when I was a faithful fan for some I was always not zealous enough and got hate from more zealous fans. It hurt me as a fan. Now I'm a passerby, so it hurts less, which doesn't mean it doesn't hurt at all. So before you flood me with curses and suggestions, stop for a moment and consider whether you, yourself, would like to hear such words against you. Let's treat each other as human beings :)

Oh, oh, oh, I'll be the devil's advocate (for those who don't know, I'll be defending the "wrong" cause). Aren't you being a bit snobbish with this "refined taste"?
Not everyone from the West is impressed by his beauty. I showed him to several ladies of different ages (between 25 and 55) and none of them thought they liked him and I had three photo books of his best pictures. The social and economic spheres were also there from female students, office workers to academics.
The awards he wins are those of the popular world, not the film world, and prove that he is popular and well-liked, not that he has good technique. As for the role of Patient #5, I suggest you find out how he got it. I personally like his acting, but let's not elevate him to levels where he is not.
Whether XZ has made actual progress in acting is unknown to us because we haven't seen his new dramas. In every drama that has been released so far, he has had scenes that are excellent and ones that are better not mentioned. Could it be that fans' memory has actually forgotten those bad scenes?
His natural beauty is non-stop retouched with makeup, costumes, hairstyles. Ever since I met him, I've been saying that WWX is 10/10 and XZ is 6.5/10. A woman or man looks much better in good makeup than without. This applies to him as well.
Xiao Zhan is Xiao Zhan, the only one and irreplaceable. One can adore him, one can dislike him, one can be indifferent towards him. What alienates passersby from him, however, are unfortunately his fans. But this is the case with any idol/actor. There will always be a group that worships the idol like a god, what a perfect, wonderful, just a walking deity he is, and that if someone doesn't see this they are blind and deaf. This really discourages passersby. Honestly, even I couldn't stand this idealization by fans anymore, even though I created this account as a devoted fan of his.
This is not a jab at anyone specific just a general observation. There is no perfect man. Everyone has flaws. People have different tastes. Fans, however, tend to go to extremes. Excessive public glorification of an idol can turn out to be a shot in the knee. A delighted fan who wants to popularize his idol may, with overexposure, discourage a passerby. People like to learn about something new, and if they have too much of something, or feel compelled to do something, they move away in disgust. There are actors with whom I absolutely will not watch any series or movie, even though the film may be excellent. I simply can't watch them. XZ is not one of them.
Sorry for the long comment. It is not aimed at you personally, so I apologize if you felt offended. It's just that as a representative of passersby, I wanted to say a few words on the subject.

I love your comment, I really do! You come on the subject of an actor, insult him and his fans in a very indiscriminate way, and claim that if someone writes back to you it will only prove that all his fans are crazy fanatics. Wow, like I'm reading some surreal D-grade comedy :) Thank you, you really made me laugh.

However, as a FORMER fan of the actor, I dare to respond to your statement. I disassociate myself from the actor and the fans, so you can't use this against them. Buy your glasses, please. If you're saying that actor YY's plastic numb face hasn't seen a plastic surgeon (the guy can't even smile normally anymore) and XZ's face is post-surgery, you really need good glasses. XZ has lost a lot of weight, grown up, has also gone through a lot of hardships, which makes him look different. Only a living face is able to make such a variety of grimaces, and only someone without surgery can dare to make such close-ups as his.

I understand that jealousy speaks through you that your idol is no longer as popular as he once was. But for the sake of the god you profess, do you really consider it to be in good taste to insult someone in public and provoke them by saying "I'll insult you, and if you react it means you're a fanatic"? Since I have dissociated myself from being anyone's fan I will boldly say: change your medications, because the current ones have stopped working.

Everyone has the right to like who they want and for what they want. Sure, XZ doesn't have Dimash's voice, but he has emotion and warmth in his voice that make people happy. If it not works for you is normal. People have different tastes and you really don't have to insult anyone because of that. You don't like his acting then don't watch series with him. There are hundreds of series without him. If your idol is losing in popularity to XZ, instead of spitting venom at XZ and his active fans, organize a group of fans of your idol and get to vote. And if you think, as I do, that these votes are idiocy, why do you care who wins? And if you think fan circles are toxic, stop hanging out with them instead of coming to their forums and provoking them. You really will be a happier person that way. I am. And believe it or not, XZ fans are the least toxic and have generated new trends of being a fan and the official Chinese media sets them as an example.

Gee, I really thank you for your comment. I really laughed a lot :)

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It seems that I have seen a shorter version. However, I did not detect any "errors" that need to be corrected. For me, simply the whole thing had no atmosphere and the story was not engaging. It even started out cool, but spoiled the moment the maid started telling her story. This turn to first-person narration and the motive of deceiving the rich maid completely stopped my interest. The surprising twists that followed were just boring and predictable. I've seen a lot of exciting anime in decent genres lately, and maybe it's just that this level of surprises, twists and suspense as in this movie fell short. A lot depends on the viewer, and for me this film was satisfying only on the level of acting and cinematography (here I also include costumes, set design, etc.).

episode five was pretty funny

It has exactly the same problem as the book, which is that it develops dull, heavy and slow. Fortunately, the cinematography, music and acting are excellent so you can really feel the atmosphere of unknown danger, uneasiness, something elusively disturbing. In terms of production quality, I am very impressed. It's like I'm watching a well-directed movie. There's a scene in the second episode where they're drinking wine, and while I found the plot boring, visually it was beautiful.
This drama is probably not going to be a hit. Heavy sci-fi doesn't have many fans. Even medium sci-fi is not as popular as wuxia or xianxia. In addition, the tension builds slowly. However, the drama is done with the utmost precision, incredibly well, so although the viewership will be less than idol dramas, for me it is a contender for the biggest awards from critics and filmmakers.

He, he, he, such bad is mosquitoes for me. This drama was light as a feather :)

I had the opposite, I quit twice on the first episodes. To tell you the truth I don't remember this drama and I don't feel like going back to it at all but I just don't like cute idiotic romances about nothing. But if you accuse someone of plastic surgery, let it be an accusation supported by evidence. You may not like the person playing in some drama, you may not like the type of beauty of that person, but let's respect each other and the actors, please.

It will. His official fan club always does translations, they just give very small subtitles. There are several channels that always give translations, so I'm sure something will be posted soon.

The analogy is rather purely coincidental. Since this year we are dealing with Dragon TV not Hunan, we can expect WDB as soon as possible. This TV has been sympathetic to Xiao Zhan from the beginning and finally got one of his projects :). While with TOOL I might have suspected a deliberate delay by Hunan, with TLP I'm sure it's all about production quality. Tencent has been much criticized due to the failed S+ in the past year, and I believe with TLP they really want to give us good quality. I think they are polishing the CGI all the time. Meanwhile, WDB was a privileged list production from the beginning, so it had to get a license very quickly. Anyway, it doesn't require CGI. At this point, I expect WDB any day now, February at the latest. About a month after the last episode on TV, we can get the TLP. That's how I expect it to be.

I hope so, too.

That's what I thought under the influence of episode 11 :)

It's been quiet lately. According to earlier reports, they should start right after Chinese New Year, that is, sometime in February (January is usually a period full of various galas and concerts), but as far as this production is concerned, I don't trust them with anything anymore. Every few months it's "we're about to start" and so it's been the third year. Meanwhile, the actors aren't getting any younger, and we're only looking at when the next veteran will retire.

I think that for Kim Rae Won this drama could be the ticket to the second wave of his career, and much better than the first. I really liked him in this role. He's very ordinary and realistic, natural and gripping as that mutt foster you took in. And he has a nice deep voice. I like it when an actor gains with age.

Happy Holidays :) !

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For me, it was this transfer between worlds that interested me in the anime, but it was only in the first episode. In the anime in the new world, Tang San is 6 years old, then 12. I prefer slightly older characters, like in the drama. I dropped the anime around the ninth episode. But that's just my opinion. Many people like it very much :)

Warning, big spoiler about Tang San's origin in the anime.



He is coming from another world where there is a different magic. He was a young genius. In the anime he was accused of stealing the great secret of magic and to prove the nobility of his character he jumped into the abyss. He was reborn on the continent of Douluo having the memory of his past, but here magic works differently and he was unable to use it. In time, however, he combined both skills. In the series, magic from the other world was replaced by this book, from which he learned since childhood. In my opinion, it was done neatly.
Dramas are subjected to more censorship than books, so more is allowed in books and anime.