I genuinely love hae-in and so-min individually and their past projects are some of my favorites but for some reason this show is not on the same level as their past projects (in terms of plot and chemistry) i felt like their past projects were so well selected but this one just seems off...
idk if i'm the only one that felt this but the camera lighting/camera work seems weird for some reason (if anyone knows why please feel free to let me know)
then right after the CEO leaves ji-uk tells her he will do anything to help HER and she says "just take over the company", wouldn't the most normal response in this situation be to comfort him and tell him not to worry too much about it and that they will figure out a plan together?
I get that she portrays an ambitious career woman who was willing to fake her marriage to get a promotion but she claims to "truly" love him now but still acts just as narcissistic as before...he is always worrying about her well being whereas she is comedically shown to care only about herself (I thought about the same thing when she got reported due to a misunderstanding and all she could think about was get revenge on ji-uk)
*rant incoming* the CEO and the writer (second leads) are perfect for each other.
at first I thought that his narcissistic attitude and the environment he grew up in was vastly different to ja-yeon's so I thought the secretary and her would make a better couple (since he was much more easy going and she seemed the happiest with him + i thought his reaction to her books would be adorable). When I heard the second drama would feature them as leads I assumed that they would just make the CEO a completely changed man overnight and they would just brush over the stuff he wrote about her, but boy was I wrong.
I realize that the secretary is the wrong choice now after a few more episodes because: 1) he is nice to pretty much everyone that treats him well, 2) the fact that he is nice to everyone means that he probably doesn't have any special feelings towards ja-yeon also if he cared about her(in a romantic way) before, he would have tried to find out why she disappeared all of sudden, 3) she has already lied to him about certain things because she cares a lot about his opinion about her and this is obviously not a good start to a relationship, 4) I honestly don't think he can properly comfort her regarding he past trauma and lastly I think she idolizes him way too much
on the other hand the CEO: knows what she does for a living, has come to terms with it, has fallen for her (not at first sight) but rather after knowing her for some time, they both have insecurities despite being successful in their own fields, he has already seen signs of her trauma and also dealt with them well, and he is literally so honest about everything to her (the things that matter) , they both seem to have problematic pasts of their own unlike what I initially assumed.
I can also imagine cute scenarios where the CEO writes her poetry (it would be soooo cuteee) and she asks him opinions on spicy book scenes (he would be blushing ofc) and the most anticipated: THE MOTHER IN LAWW, i can see her acting like the rich grannies in soap operas (myb even from one of ja-yeon's books) and then falling head over heels after finding out who she is (maybe even embarrassed because she knows everything she has written TT)
yk honestly I feel like for this type of drama they could have gone with a documentary style shooting with myb seokryu uploading daily vlogs on her youtube channel and talking about stuff (or like how they did it in our beloved summer)
Exactly, it is shown as if she has an affair with the minister something both Seung Hyo and his dad think she…
well its usually like that isn't it? when a child sees something they believe it to be the absolute truth and as seen from the flashbacks she was always away on work related trips and didn't spend much time with her family (same goes for her husband who is a doctor) and seunghyo only saw his mother with the handsy minister and her cold attitude towards his father (myb he even compared seokryu's parent's relationship with theirs)
Some things are meant to be done in private. Whatever I do, I'd do it behind closed doors. I wouldn't put it on…
I have not heard of any lord to date that has encouraged anyone to spread hatred, if you don't like something that you are being forced to watch that is a completely different story but you literally opened an 18+ show that is rated as such and expected a fluffy rom com. Who are you warning by the way? your 30 fake accounts? Because all other "mature adults" like you at least know how to read age ratings.
I am also raised with 'asian values' but why should your moral value decide what should be made or not. Like others…
although I agree with you on some aspects lets not drag countries into this, every country has a lot of cases regarding the safety of women (the only thing that is different is that the case in india was sensationalized recently ), by bringing his country into your comment you are no different from him when he slandered western countries......
As a fully grown man how does it feel to rant about a show that is rated 18+? does korean media not even have…
you have really great language "depth of the observations.....logical coherence.....critique isn't contingent", so you mean to tell me that this man has all of these in his comment?? HAHA thanks for giving me a good laugh
the validity of a critique can be questioned when the person stating the criticism uses hateful language to prove a point rather than stating their opinion in a factual manner. If you don't like a show thats completely fine but if you go on a public forum that is used by people of all age groups and call a director a whore because they had the "audacity" to make a show you deem "degrading" seems silly.
As a fully grown man how does it feel to rant about a show that is rated 18+? does korean media not even have…
it just means that the person on the receiving end of his misogyny is never going to read it so rather than creating unnecessary comments under a harmless news article he should stop watching things he doesnt like.
Its fkn irritating , im a straight guy from South India, Bangalore. The reason i watch Kdrama is cz its not explicit,…
As a fully grown man how does it feel to rant about a show that is rated 18+? does korean media not even have the liberty to make 18+ shows? pretending like something doesn't exist doesn't make it untrue....I have no idea what you planned to achieve by broadcasting that you are from Bangalore but its each to its own, the fact that an asian is stereotyping the whole continent is hilarious...rather than criticizing people who have already achieved more than you ever have maybe you should watch the other shows that are more your "type" rather than spewing hate on here
Korea and all countries need to stop imitating the West and stop trying to cater to their values. It needs to…
the internet is what gave you the medium to write this comment right here, and stop acting like porn didn't exist from way before, it has always been a part of human civillisation in some way or another (not saying its right or wrong btw) and the only difference is that america happened to be the first one to profit on it....The "alot of the world that is conservative" should stick to being conservative and not watch a show that is 18+ and then start ranting about it
explicit scenes overshadow the other elements of a story and diminish their value. choosing to consume less explicit…
If explicit scenes overshadow your viewing experience it is because you place a huge amount of importance to it...There are some people out there that can't stand to watch violence or gore and they stay away from it, i dont see them spreading hate over that particular show simply because they can't watch it nor do they claim that the industry should stop producing these type of shows...
There are plenty of ongoing korean shows for the so called original fan base and they can stick to that but why do you prevent potential viewers from discovering this show because of your bias? I have seen plenty of shows that don't deserve decent ratings being rated extremely highly because of the looks of the cast and in comparison this show has a lot better acting and budget but it still only gets a 7.7 rating because of your bias which seems unfair.
If you truly are a fan of the korean drama culture you should be glad that more people will notice this industry (which they are trying to do by trying out new ideas and themes) and discover more about the culture rather than spewing hate over 2 mins of a 1hr long show
Honestly this show is just a depiction of what may have happened in a certain time period and it is the director's and scriptwriter's angle of what a king who has everything a man can desire will do, I personally think that the n*dity and explicit scenes set the tone for the show but I simply can't understand why people would have stereotypes about korean dramas and want it to be "pure". By writing comments regarding the "purity" of this show you may be dissuading some people from watching it but you are also completely disregarding the plot of the show by only talking about the N*dity.
It is truly sad that the bold decision of the cast to agree to this film is now being subject to this degree of unnecessary hate by the FOREIGN audience, I can't imagine how the reaction is in korea if foreigners react like this. Oh and you are also basically forcing half the people that check the comments to specifically see what the so called explicit scenes are about after creating such silly drama over it.
And for those claiming they started watching kdramas to get away from western shows, let me tell you that you are basically arrogant enough to expect that a country will stop producing whatever kind of movies they like simply because you deem it "unfit", if you didn't already know the hollywood industry is a role model for many industries around the world and obviously the korean industry may want to expand its range from cute romcoms to something mature to spice things up and attract more viewers.
maybe FL's other friend will end up with CEO cus her current bf is a cheater they wouldnt end up together anyway.
fr because he seems kinda dense to end up with her and I think the CEO's mother's taste in books will set up an interesting premise for when the two start dating lmao
Why did writer purposely hit the hater outside police station? Wasnt that on purpose? But after she got so petrified...🤔
I think she was either trying to get over her fear or she knocked into him (myb she was surprised because he hater looked normal in contrast to the comments he wrote)
I'm really trying to understand you, but I don't understand people who support a man who t drugs Fl. Instead of…
OMG its not even about his looks, the whole point is that he literally cannot handle stressful situations, if someone accidentally took your sleeping pills that you regularly take and you know exactly what symptoms they will experience it is understandable if you don't immediately think of taking them to the hospital when they get sleepy/unconscious , because they are experiencing exactly what the medicine is supposed to induce...It can be brushed of as his naivety and mental state that he probably did not know that if people take someone else's anxiety meds it could have serious side effects...because all he was thinking at that moment were the implications of her abnormality being revealed (especially since she seemed hell bent on hiding it)
now about the key chain thing, i admit it was wrong of him to do that but isnt the whole situation ludicrous in itself? if i saw a woman shapeshifting depend on the time i think i would be flustered enough to steal a keychain, i doubt anyone would be in their right mind to be able to witness and accept something like that (and obviously he can't ask her because she is obviously trying to hide it)
I'm really trying to understand you, but I don't understand people who support a man who t drugs Fl. Instead of…
well if the male lead's character was an old ugly man i doubt you would support him either, this isn't about his looks but realistically speaking not everyone knows what to do when someone becomes unconscious in front of them, the prosecutor knew because he is used to these kind of situations whereas ko won knew exactly what drug she had taken and its side effects, he probably didn't think far ahead of the possible implications and just assumed that she would get better since he regularly took those meds...
also if you want to talk about boundaries then the fl does not have any boundaries either, there are instances where she is literally willing to tamper with evidence in order to protect herself, how do you justify that? She also broke into a hospital but because the character the hospital belongs to is a "bad" person and an old man you don't find anything wrong with her actions. personally from ko won's pov he just wants to help the person who saved his life and throughout the show she never firmly told him that she hated him being near her, although she mentioned it a few times it was not very stern and even sounded playful at times so can you honestly blame him?
As for stealing the keychain it was again to affirm her identity and not for anything malicious, i'm sure the prosecutor would have done the same he was suspicious about her identity as well.
I'm really trying to understand you, but I don't understand people who support a man who t drugs Fl. Instead of…
didn't she accidentally take his meds? its not like he forced her or coerced her into taking them, and he is an idol and for an idol the first thing that is in ingrained in their head is to worry about their image first...He probably panicked since he has never encountered such a situation like this before and due to his naivety just assumed that to her it was more important to hide her identity....Plus he himself has panic attacks which means he can't think clearly under pressure either so we can't blame him for making the wrong decision
and also i doubt following someone without malicious intentions or any motive can be counted as stalking, its not like he was trying to find out about where she lived or what she did in a day or anything like that, he just found himself following her since he was attracted to her and the future instances where he "stalked" her were always to confirm his suspicions ( I mean who wouldn't if they saw a 50 year old transform into a 20 year old when it becomes night? )
idk if i'm the only one that felt this but the camera lighting/camera work seems weird for some reason (if anyone knows why please feel free to let me know)
then right after the CEO leaves ji-uk tells her he will do anything to help HER and she says "just take over the company", wouldn't the most normal response in this situation be to comfort him and tell him not to worry too much about it and that they will figure out a plan together?
I get that she portrays an ambitious career woman who was willing to fake her marriage to get a promotion but she claims to "truly" love him now but still acts just as narcissistic as before...he is always worrying about her well being whereas she is comedically shown to care only about herself (I thought about the same thing when she got reported due to a misunderstanding and all she could think about was get revenge on ji-uk)
the CEO and the writer (second leads) are perfect for each other.
at first I thought that his narcissistic attitude and the environment he grew up in was vastly different to ja-yeon's so I thought the secretary and her would make a better couple (since he was much more easy going and she seemed the happiest with him + i thought his reaction to her books would be adorable). When I heard the second drama would feature them as leads I assumed that they would just make the CEO a completely changed man overnight and they would just brush over the stuff he wrote about her, but boy was I wrong.
I realize that the secretary is the wrong choice now after a few more episodes because: 1) he is nice to pretty much everyone that treats him well, 2) the fact that he is nice to everyone means that he probably doesn't have any special feelings towards ja-yeon also if he cared about her(in a romantic way) before, he would have tried to find out why she disappeared all of sudden, 3) she has already lied to him about certain things because she cares a lot about his opinion about her and this is obviously not a good start to a relationship, 4) I honestly don't think he can properly comfort her regarding he past trauma and lastly I think she idolizes him way too much
on the other hand the CEO: knows what she does for a living, has come to terms with it, has fallen for her (not at first sight) but rather after knowing her for some time, they both have insecurities despite being successful in their own fields, he has already seen signs of her trauma and also dealt with them well, and he is literally so honest about everything to her (the things that matter) , they both seem to have problematic pasts of their own unlike what I initially assumed.
I can also imagine cute scenarios where the CEO writes her poetry (it would be soooo cuteee) and she asks him opinions on spicy book scenes (he would be blushing ofc) and the most anticipated: THE MOTHER IN LAWW, i can see her acting like the rich grannies in soap operas (myb even from one of ja-yeon's books) and then falling head over heels after finding out who she is (maybe even embarrassed because she knows everything she has written TT)
the validity of a critique can be questioned when the person stating the criticism uses hateful language to prove a point rather than stating their opinion in a factual manner. If you don't like a show thats completely fine but if you go on a public forum that is used by people of all age groups and call a director a whore because they had the "audacity" to make a show you deem "degrading" seems silly.
There are plenty of ongoing korean shows for the so called original fan base and they can stick to that but why do you prevent potential viewers from discovering this show because of your bias? I have seen plenty of shows that don't deserve decent ratings being rated extremely highly because of the looks of the cast and in comparison this show has a lot better acting and budget but it still only gets a 7.7 rating because of your bias which seems unfair.
If you truly are a fan of the korean drama culture you should be glad that more people will notice this industry (which they are trying to do by trying out new ideas and themes) and discover more about the culture rather than spewing hate over 2 mins of a 1hr long show
It is truly sad that the bold decision of the cast to agree to this film is now being subject to this degree of unnecessary hate by the FOREIGN audience, I can't imagine how the reaction is in korea if foreigners react like this. Oh and you are also basically forcing half the people that check the comments to specifically see what the so called explicit scenes are about after creating such silly drama over it.
And for those claiming they started watching kdramas to get away from western shows, let me tell you that you are basically arrogant enough to expect that a country will stop producing whatever kind of movies they like simply because you deem it "unfit", if you didn't already know the hollywood industry is a role model for many industries around the world and obviously the korean industry may want to expand its range from cute romcoms to something mature to spice things up and attract more viewers.
now about the key chain thing, i admit it was wrong of him to do that but isnt the whole situation ludicrous in itself? if i saw a woman shapeshifting depend on the time i think i would be flustered enough to steal a keychain, i doubt anyone would be in their right mind to be able to witness and accept something like that (and obviously he can't ask her because she is obviously trying to hide it)
also if you want to talk about boundaries then the fl does not have any boundaries either, there are instances where she is literally willing to tamper with evidence in order to protect herself, how do you justify that? She also broke into a hospital but because the character the hospital belongs to is a "bad" person and an old man you don't find anything wrong with her actions. personally from ko won's pov he just wants to help the person who saved his life and throughout the show she never firmly told him that she hated him being near her, although she mentioned it a few times it was not very stern and even sounded playful at times so can you honestly blame him?
As for stealing the keychain it was again to affirm her identity and not for anything malicious, i'm sure the prosecutor would have done the same he was suspicious about her identity as well.
and also i doubt following someone without malicious intentions or any motive can be counted as stalking, its not like he was trying to find out about where she lived or what she did in a day or anything like that, he just found himself following her since he was attracted to her and the future instances where he "stalked" her were always to confirm his suspicions ( I mean who wouldn't if they saw a 50 year old transform into a 20 year old when it becomes night? )