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I forgot how cute he is.

That's a good summary. I'm a little harsher because I'm a little confused why we're rehashing the movie-making plot again, as if it wasn't pointless enough the first time. Ohm is a total asshole, as the story has made clear, and he's in Talay's body possibly ruining his life, and there's the issue of them potenially dying if they don't get back to their universe, but there's zero urgency about it - it's barely even been mentioned since the first couple of episodes.

It's not terrible because it's fully of really attractive and appealing actors, and some of their interaction is appealing, but that's about all it has going for it. It was really sweet when Puen told Talay he would be there for him no matter what... the first time. That's all he ever says, so it's lost its impact. Even their last scene I thought was clumsily handled and felt weird to me. A lot of BL love lacks any passion, even when it's between adults - Puen and Talay feel like guys that just want someone to hug - I don't feel the electricity. It's just cute, sometimes.

What progressed, though? They're trapped in another universe while their lives are possibly being destroyed in another and they're making a movie... again. The relationship progressed, but it felt rushed, depsite having taken forever. I love the cast, but the writing is not making the best use of them.

I get what you're saying - for me it's Ep 8, two-thirds done, and almost nothing has happened. We're even rehashing making a movie - did that really need to be here twice? What was added to the plot with the first film? It's failure had no particular consequence or effect on character development, so it's just a really, really long repetitiion. I agree, something happened this episode, but it was jarring with the rapid tonal shifts - one minute Talay is wiping his face in disgust after Puen gives him a peck on the cheek, and then next...

I would love to see that too, but I'm not confident we'll get it. I would have loved it if there had been a connection between the two couples and we could have gone back and forth between universes. You could have condensed a lot of wha we've seen so far and made room for an "interlude" episode where we see what Ohm and Nanon are up to in the other universe. Nanon is a sensitive musician stuck as a famous actor and Ohm is a spoiled asshole rich kid trapped as a lowly colorist - that could have been interesting.

I do think you're wrong, but only because this isn't really a BL. Also, it's mystifying and intriguing, not confusing, except in a couple of spots for language reasons. You can't understand everything that you're watching immediately, and more and more is revealed as it progresses, answering some questions and raising others.

I think "one of the worst BLs ever made" is a bit harsh for BB, but I agree it's seriously overrated. I though it was pretty good until about half way, then just dumped all the themes, conflict, and plot for hours of pointless, repetitive, and deeply boring fan-service.

Bad writing can lead to confusion, but it can also lead to shallow formulaic dreck that's so predictable that you can write out the entire plot based on the first 5 minutes. I don't want either, but I've had so much of the latter I'd probably prefer the former.

The language issue is in Ep 2 where Tiew pretends not to recognize Mork because Mork doesn't address him respectfully as an elder - without knowing that, it's confusing.

Yes, if you're OK with it not being a linear BL, because it isn't. I think it's brilliant, but it's not a fluffy romance, and it doesn't have any BL convenions like accidental kisses and hair drying. It's also deliberately confusing and it's not possible to understand everything you're seeing immediately - things are revealed as you go along.

If you're looking for a linear and predictable BL, then this is not it. Something should be judged for what it is, not for something different that it's not.

If I were looking for a fluffy BL, I probably wouldn't select something with the word "slasher" in the title - likewise, I wouldn't pick something with a poster of two guys dressed all in white standing in a field with the title "On Cloud Nine" either.

The condescention isn't about not liking something, it's about not liking something for what it isn't. Kind of like if you wanted a chamber music recital but went to a rock concert and then complained it's too loud. If you wanted a chamber music recital and went to one and it was bad, then any criticism valid because we all see things differently.

Now you could argue that the tags are misleading, which is probably true because they're vague. If something were advertised as a chamber music recital but it was really a rock concert when you got there, it would be justified to be irritated.

GagaOOLala distinguishes between BL and LGBTQ+, and I think that's a good idea in general, because they're not the same at all.

I don't need to wait to see if it's well done or if this was a good episode. It's well done and this was a good episode, like all five episodes have been (or four if that's where you are), and we have every reason to expect the last episode to be good. Actually "good" is much to weak - "superlative" is better.

BL audiences like predictabiliy and unambiguous happy endings. This isn't a BL, so I would expect a lot of BL fans to reject it. I might too, if all I wanted to see was a fluffy BL. Fortunately, I'm so sick of formulaic BL that I can't even enjoy good ones anymore, so I have things like this instead.

I think it's fairly clear what order everything goes in - it's just not clear what it all means. The bridge is when everyone was alive three years ago, and the flower garden is clearly supernatural.

Are the tags misleading? Maybe a little just because they're so generic. But if you see a poster with two people dressed all in white standing in a field of flowers with the title "On Cloud Nine", there are few clues there that this isn't your "standard" BL.

But I wish if this wasn't what people were looking for they'd just leave instead of voting down this masterpiece. You can't break "8" on MDL unless you're a formulaic drama of at least 10 episodes. Anything less and you get punished. ITSAY is about tied with Vice Versa, which is like comparing Bach's Matthew Passion to a kid blowing random notes on a recorder.

Wow, this is just incredible.

I really needed that after a fairly weak BL week. There are a few subtitles issues that are important - like Tiew isn't calling him "Mork", he's calling him "mung", which adds a touch of ambiguity, and there are a few spots where I'm not sure what's being said, which in a series like this is much more important than in typical BL, where if "I'll dry your hair for you" is mistranslated it does't matter a all.

Anyway, Rossi is really incredible - Meen too, but Rossi has a bright future. He has a gravitas that will only increase with age.

On a note about BL in general, that this is rated a 7.4 and other derivative series are in the mid-8 range tells me that BL is always going to be formulaic. That's what the audience wants, and so that's what the studios will produce - except in Chiang Mai. :)

I think Mork is dead, and at the end he's in a car, leaving forever - dressed all in black. Or he's headed to a funeral. Or none of the above. We'll see next week.

And not petty shoplisting.

I'm starting to worry about the cast - I think the producers may have abducted their families and threatened to kill them in order to make them be in this. I really like everyone in this - enough to have stuck with it, but I'm wearing out.

Cameos can be nice if they make sense, like the ones in Why RU, or even Ohm and Nanon in this series. But now, they feel a little like the production knew this series was a wreck and tried to save the day by calling in favors. But it's a distraction and chews up time that could be devoted to... well, having a plot.

Where is this going? I don't feel a coherent development between Talay and Puen. Look at this episode - Puen flirts inappropriately at work, while Talay treats a peck on the cheek like non-consensual watersports, then suddenly professes his love and they kiss like there is literally someone holding a gun to their heads.

I don't know what could have gone wrong with the acclaimed director of the Wifi Society Series at the helm, but this needs to really return to the premise of the series and get focused. Are they not concerened that everyone they meet thinks Tess is a complete asshole, and what he might be doing to Talay's life in their own universe?

There are 3 screenwriters, and it shows. It feels like they fought over everything, then gave up and just threw in everything that each of them wanted. The writing laziness is exemplified by the way they couldn't be bothered to look up the Spanish version of Alexander (Alejandro, not Alessandro, which is Italian).

But isn't that a commntary on his acting? He should be able show us what his feelings and motivations are. I think he could probably do it if the script were better. Think about Earth in 1,000 Stars, who barely said anything but was an open book.

Old Fashion Cupcake was an excellent adaptation - it can be done. I've read the manga and the series managed to follow the plot without just using voice-over all the time. The thumb in the mouth scene was a bit more outrageous, but it would have looked like attempted murder if they'd tried to replicate it in the live action.

A dom uke would be funny (I know that's different than what you said). The only time we've really seen the uke driving things was in Y Destiny, and I thought they went a bit overboard.

I guess my problem here is that while I like how cute Earth & Santa's interactions are, I'm not really all that interested in their relationship because it's so predictable - I like it when I can't accurately predict how the entire scene will go from the first few seconds. It helps that the acting is good.

Although to be fair, I thought Seeiw would get further than 3 paces before fainting in that running scene, so I got a mild surprise there, but not in a good way.

I've liked things in this, and I love First - which is why I'll probably watch it eventually if everyone likes it. I just started a new job and I can't spend all my free time watching BLs anymore, so I have to pick a few and binge the rest on holidays.

It would have been funnier if it had resulted in them falling and ending up in the infirmary, with the usual dabbing with the disgusting orange q-tip. Naturally there would have to be a damp towel pat-down and some hair drying.

I really like this. The first two episodes were top-notch, the third a little weaker. I think the story could have been a little stronger if Peach's life had grown quite apart from Smart and then when Smart arrives it's almost an intrusion into his new life. Then the drama could be around them reconnecting.

I'm really hoping the girl isn't yet another evil manipulator - clearly she can see "it" better than Peach can.

The two younger actors are going to be big someday.