This actually happened to my boyfriend once, hahahah. We were in an empty classroom together with a friend. My…
I think 21 Day Theory is worth watching, but I haven't seen the last episode iaring today, so it's still possible for it to be ruined, lol.
Here's an example of where tropes become so ingrained that they can be problemmatic, or perhaps in rare cases cleverly used by a writer. There has actually been one strong signal Ayan is the seme, which is that he did the lean over and unfasten the seatbelt thing, which is a seme move. But Ayan was doing it to play with Akk, not because he's patronizing (like a good seme always is). But because he did it, some people will think he's the seme, even though their interaction points in the other direction. The way Akk always end up laying on top of Ayan when they do martial arts is a bit hard to mistake.
This actually happened to my boyfriend once, hahahah. We were in an empty classroom together with a friend. My…
I hope so - that would make his character interesting instead of cartoonish. If it turns out he's afraid that gives him motivation and depth rather than being there just to be a plot device.
But if the first half of all your answers are wrong, the changes of the second half being all wrong are very,…
Wow, you're totally right about that - I hadn't seen the new summary. The reaction to this would certainly have been better if it had started out with that. You'll notice that most of the criticism leans toward disappointment rather than on acting or production values - but even there, when people are unhappy, nitpicking starts. For example, the production is fairly slick, but the clumsy pregnancy costume was notable, and it might have produced a snicker or two in a popular series, but what you might overlook in a series you really like becomes a point of focus in one you don't.
I think maybe another issue was that there is not enough story to support 12 episodes - if it had been a total of 8 instead of 1+12, the plot wouldn't have felt so stagnant and repetitive, which was the real problem. For example, Daonuea was annoying because he was whiny, which wouldn't have been so irritating if he weren't whining about he same things over and over.
Worse. I love the cast, but I'm not watching an hour-long commercial for inhalers and fried chicken.
That was LOL funny - 30 seconds of work, such a demonstration of caring. To be fair, he did throw and handful of raw bacon on it. (OK, to be fair, the subtitles may have called cured meat "bacon".)
"You're supposed to be confused. If you don't like being confused, this is not the series for you. " PREACH!!!…
It's probably streamlined, but it definitely isn't obvious. I would think it would be more transparent to Thais who would be more familiar with the symbolism and mythology, but apparently not.
I'm pretty good at figuring things out, and I have no idea what's happening. I think one of them is dead and the other is a happy memory, but it could also be that Mon and Mork are the same person, or that Tiew and Mork both dead, or all three of them, or in a coma, or some combination of the above. I expect we'll all have a Eureka moment in the last ep, but sometimes stories like this are left up to interpretation.
This actually happened to my boyfriend once, hahahah. We were in an empty classroom together with a friend. My…
It would be the first time, I think, where the seme was shorter than the uke and that much smaller. But I also like that it isn't clear. I think Akk is the seme based on how he can easily flip Ayan even when he's so tired that he can fall asleep in his enemy's hand (which you will never convince me is a thing). :)
I initially really liked 2Gether, where seme-uke wasn't initially clear, and they cast someone as the uke who looked like he could snap the seme in two with no effort, but then the series lapsed into having him be a crybaby that fainted whenever sunlight touched him.
The current 21 Day Theory doesn't appear to have a seme and uke, and if it does, one of them is the clear pursuer who's in control, and the other is much more muscular and athletic, so either way something isn't following the formula.
In Addicted Heroin the uke was tough and much, much more capable and stable than the seme, and the seme was happy to bottom if that's what the uke wanted.
The falling-asleep-scene was indeed realistic. This happens. I have nothing to complain about the intereaction…
They can do those things in BL, not so much in real life, although I grant you the loud noises. I had a roommate who could fall asleep with his head on the table during a dinner party and not wake up, which I always found remarkable. And concerning. But even he would never just fall over without it waking him, and shaking him would wake him right away. It's possible that Akk could be like this, but extremely unlikely, especially in a situation where he's afraid and anxious. He's a bit tightly wound to be that deep a sleeper.
okay i have to say this but did nine cheat on daonuea just asking.
No. Daonuea decided to listen to a total stranger and not ask his boyfriend about it. The guy is a "friend with benefits" that Nine did stuff with before Daonuea, who he'd only been with for like a day by that point, but in any case they hadn't done anything since the beginning of the series. But it does mean Nine must have been cheating a lot on Praew.
So episode 7. A couple of things um... 1. I was excited when Praew took that dress off, but not in the way I should've/you…
When I lived in New York, I saw him once. He came into the restaurant I was eating at with two implausibly hot men and had dinner. NY being NY, I ended up in the newspaper (or rather the back of my head did) in the review of the restaurant, and he didn't, because nobody cares, and the photographer's preferred angle happened to have me in it, and not him.
Absolutely not! I would almost say it will ruin the show even more for you if you watch 0. Its so much better…
Actually, I would recommend watching Episode 0 and then NOT watching the series. It's a self-contained story and is quite lovely. You will likely love both of the guys, and if you don't want to be driven to a point where you hope they both die horribly, the series is not recommended.
But if the first half of all your answers are wrong, the changes of the second half being all wrong are very,…
I'm really glad you explained that and I'll be more conscious of it in the future.
There is a thing I call "hate-watching" which is a type of Schadenfreude - taking pleasure in how awful something is. I hate-watch this and Unforgotten Night - I thing they're terrible, but I watch them anyway. While Unforgotten Night is so awful that it's high comedy, Check Out is disappointing because it didn't follow up on the truly wonderful special episode that launched the story, and Daonuea became whiney and useless - whereas the relative equality between him and Nine in the original was refreshing. The way the story was written also kept everyone in a holding pattern so that nothing could happen romantically - Tee couldn't be with Ice, and Nine couldn't be with Doanuea.
What this has that UN really doesn't is decent acting and fully realized characters. For example, Praew is unstable and insecure but not evil, and she's aware she's unstable, whereas in almost all other BLs she'd be a scheming evil bitch that would spend all her time trying to visciously destroy Daonuea. That's worth something, plus all three main characters are hot.
Hoping someone posts something in the discussion forum to explain the little details that add up and provide clarity.
I suspect you won't need an explanation after the last episode and everything will be clear. If it's not, then someone here will explain the details. Assuming it's clear what's going on. Otherwise you'll have to read 100 different and incompatible explanations.
what I make of it is that, one version of them is in heaven and one on earth. Either they both died before becoming…
Not telling a stranger you have a twin is not really a sin that merits being sent to the next world to make amends, but I like your theory. Mine is that one of them is dead and the other is a happy memory. It seems like Tiew is dead, but it was Mork/Mon that spoke to God (or whatever divine being New is).
Can someone please tell me which flashback scenes Tiew had with Mork and which ones were with Mon?
It doesn't matter because they both like him. I don't think we really know because neither of them said their names when one of them came home from the date. They alternate back and forth - I thought the first flashback was Mork, but after this ep I think it was Mon.
You're supposed to be confused. If you don't like being confused, this is not the series for you. When it ends, you probably won't be confused anymore, and you'll understand everything you've seen in a different light. That's good writing. Most BL writing is so bad that we're used to bad writing so it's strange when something is written well.
Anyway, everyone should ready themselves, because I don't see this having a happy ending. It can have a bittersweet ending, but don't expect rainbows and unicorns shooting out anyone's ass - this ain't your by-the-numbers BL, although you did get your obligatory piggy-back ride.
It is sheer criminality that this is rated 7.4 - but it does explain why BL is so formulaic. Everyone wants the formula, and all you need is a useless crybaby uke, a cool seme who's all heart beneath his tough exterior, throw in some engineers, blue short-sleve shirts, and make everyone obscenely wealthy if you want something to get rated 8+
Everything in this is wonderful - the cinematography, the editing, the acting - first-rate. Rossi is incredible - he's always had "it", but now he has even more "it". What a beauty.
Also who wants to go to Chiang Mai? Raise your hands.
oh i didnt think about that one 😮 some of us were saying maybe he has DID or some other personality disorder…
I'm afraid that only one of them is actually there - god or whoever said he's been experiencing his last happiness for almost 99 days, so one of them may just be a memory.
You're wrong. It's a long-a&& stream of commercials. Is it any wonder Up nearly vomited? Imagine being trapped…
Also, I'm dying to know how they kept all the furniture and plants upright for that whole trip - imagine having to stop fast just once or make a medium-sharp turn.
I once made the mistake of trying to transport a small cactus in my car that was in a planter that was about 10 x 30 cm in area and only about 5 cm all, and sure enough, it tipped over and made a huge mess.
Here's an example of where tropes become so ingrained that they can be problemmatic, or perhaps in rare cases cleverly used by a writer. There has actually been one strong signal Ayan is the seme, which is that he did the lean over and unfasten the seatbelt thing, which is a seme move. But Ayan was doing it to play with Akk, not because he's patronizing (like a good seme always is). But because he did it, some people will think he's the seme, even though their interaction points in the other direction. The way Akk always end up laying on top of Ayan when they do martial arts is a bit hard to mistake.
I think maybe another issue was that there is not enough story to support 12 episodes - if it had been a total of 8 instead of 1+12, the plot wouldn't have felt so stagnant and repetitive, which was the real problem. For example, Daonuea was annoying because he was whiny, which wouldn't have been so irritating if he weren't whining about he same things over and over.
I'm pretty good at figuring things out, and I have no idea what's happening. I think one of them is dead and the other is a happy memory, but it could also be that Mon and Mork are the same person, or that Tiew and Mork both dead, or all three of them, or in a coma, or some combination of the above. I expect we'll all have a Eureka moment in the last ep, but sometimes stories like this are left up to interpretation.
I initially really liked 2Gether, where seme-uke wasn't initially clear, and they cast someone as the uke who looked like he could snap the seme in two with no effort, but then the series lapsed into having him be a crybaby that fainted whenever sunlight touched him.
The current 21 Day Theory doesn't appear to have a seme and uke, and if it does, one of them is the clear pursuer who's in control, and the other is much more muscular and athletic, so either way something isn't following the formula.
In Addicted Heroin the uke was tough and much, much more capable and stable than the seme, and the seme was happy to bottom if that's what the uke wanted.
There is a thing I call "hate-watching" which is a type of Schadenfreude - taking pleasure in how awful something is. I hate-watch this and Unforgotten Night - I thing they're terrible, but I watch them anyway. While Unforgotten Night is so awful that it's high comedy, Check Out is disappointing because it didn't follow up on the truly wonderful special episode that launched the story, and Daonuea became whiney and useless - whereas the relative equality between him and Nine in the original was refreshing. The way the story was written also kept everyone in a holding pattern so that nothing could happen romantically - Tee couldn't be with Ice, and Nine couldn't be with Doanuea.
What this has that UN really doesn't is decent acting and fully realized characters. For example, Praew is unstable and insecure but not evil, and she's aware she's unstable, whereas in almost all other BLs she'd be a scheming evil bitch that would spend all her time trying to visciously destroy Daonuea. That's worth something, plus all three main characters are hot.
Anyway, everyone should ready themselves, because I don't see this having a happy ending. It can have a bittersweet ending, but don't expect rainbows and unicorns shooting out anyone's ass - this ain't your by-the-numbers BL, although you did get your obligatory piggy-back ride.
It is sheer criminality that this is rated 7.4 - but it does explain why BL is so formulaic. Everyone wants the formula, and all you need is a useless crybaby uke, a cool seme who's all heart beneath his tough exterior, throw in some engineers, blue short-sleve shirts, and make everyone obscenely wealthy if you want something to get rated 8+
Everything in this is wonderful - the cinematography, the editing, the acting - first-rate. Rossi is incredible - he's always had "it", but now he has even more "it". What a beauty.
Also who wants to go to Chiang Mai? Raise your hands.
I once made the mistake of trying to transport a small cactus in my car that was in a planter that was about 10 x 30 cm in area and only about 5 cm all, and sure enough, it tipped over and made a huge mess.