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Tee's acting has improved so much - he's fantastic in Teddy Bear, and Tae was a standout in Paint with Love. With the director of Manner of Death, plus bonus Tul & Fiat. Please let it be good - it has all the ingredients it needs...

Yes, I agree - but it was out of anger and malice, and throughout the ep after that he was "in your face" about it with her, with no concern for her feelings nor Tofu's. He rcognized that and apologized. I don't understand the people that feel he deserves to be alone and unloved - that's kind of awful. his is somone who has suffered and been abused - he deserves love and compassion, not judgment.

I suspect Na didn't actively do anything to split apart Nut and Tarn - this ep showed him assuming she hated him for being gay because she didn't contradict her husband - when we know she's fine with it and is happy h has Tofu. As for her reaction to him kissing Tofu in front of her, my mother would be that upset if I'd kissed a girl in front of her like that - especially since it was obvious he was trying to hurt her. He's kind of a dick, TBH, but he's a good guy underneath all that anger.

Was I the only one who was hoping the punishment would involve a spanking?

I really like this show - I usually roll my eyes when someone is THAT extreme an uke, but Lukchup is so f#$%ing adorable I can't stand it. The actor is 180 degrees different IRL - kind of a jock.

Anyway, I could use less of the evil gf wannabe and they need to resolve the Phai thing soon, but this is a series I really look forward to.

I think you mean that silk half-tucked shirt - that looks better on a muscular man, but it's unavoidable until that fashion dies out, hopefully soon. At as bad as it is with Ram, it's worse in some other series.

Jealousy is very natural, and I think Ram has been very good at keeping his in check - a lot of guys wouldn't be that patient with Phai. And Ram explained what causes him to be jealous, which is mature and good communication. Also, Lukchup is the Über-uke, so he needs a man running interference for him or he'll end up chained to in some psycho's basement.

Oh, I definitely noticed the paralegal. Max may just have more blemishes - you know how BL values porcelain skin. His body looks like it was sculpted by sports, or maybe dance, rather than at a gym - but I have noticed that zero body fat is a value in Asian gay culture. Along with being as pale as a sheet. Why nobody appreciates the golden Asian skin tones in favor of European albinism is mystifying to me. Westerners all want to be more tanned, in the East it's all about pallor.

How many times has that old couple saved the day?

Wow, another intense 3 eps - A lot of love has gone into this production - and what fantastic casting. Job is so good in this - how he can slip from asshole to vulnerable to loving so effortlessly that you forget he's an actor. In is great too - how convincing he is as Tofu and when he's the studly Neung. Tee has really matured since 2moons - he's got leading man charisma now, and a few years have only improved his looks. The real powerhouse of the series is Um as Na. I think what BL can take from this is that there has to be experienced actors - they play off each other, and great actors can elevate the performances of their fellows. When you have a cast entirely of noobs, you can't get a result like this, even if they're talented.

That was clearly the implication. If it were just sleeping Tofu wouldn't have been so desperate to keep Na away from the sheets, and Na wouldn't have had that sly smile.

Probably not for everyone, though.

I'm glad you said that. We should celebrate that we have a complex and difficult character and an actor with the talent to play him.

I take it more as foreshadowing about Na - those are all hers. Remember what was said about Sib's chair. All of Nut's things are perfectly fine.

Maybe, but there have been lots of hints that Nut's relationship with Tarn ended badly, and it may mirror Na's storyline. There seems to be a theme in this of letting go of the past and appreciating what you have in the present - I would think it would go against that to have Nut go back to something in the past.

I think what the old man said was very important - Na is a product of her time. The world was very different 40 years ago - to write paper for school you needed to go to a library and use a typewriter - or even write it out by hand. When I was in high school, it was impossible to understand myself - there was absolutely no representation in the media, and there was simply no alternative imaginable to a heteronormative existence.

For example, the recent sinking of the Russian Black Sea flagship made me want to know more about that type of ship - which was a 5 second search on the internt. When I was a teen, nearly impossible. You'd have to find a specialty publication which would not likely be in a local library, so one the librarian identified where it was, you'd have to get there, and more likly than not it would only be at a university or a naval academy. So how would I understand what I was feeling about boys, and how could my mother understand, from an even older generation?

It regrettable she didn't protect Nut from his father, but he was a scary man and she most likely had many of the same problems Nut did as he was just as abusive to her.

I think where the blame lies is not with Nut or his mother and we should have compassion and forgiveness for them. At least Nut always realizes he's wrong and apologizes. A bad person would never accept he's wrong.

Have you ever been rejected by your parents for being who you are? Don't you think the anger inside him has plenty of motivation? He was exposed to a level of abuse at home that most of us never have to experience. It was bad enough for me at school - if you'd added a father like that and I'd have anger issues too. He's misplacing some of it on his mother, but she didn't protect him like she should have - and she could just say she accepts and loves him how he is, but she didn't. Someone who has faced as much rejection and loss is bound to leave a lof of anger in him.

I'm on Ep 4. It's not bad, but I'm not feeling the magic that most other people are. I think maybe I focus on the performance and not the performer - like Earth is one of my favorite actors, but I don't love everything he's in. This series to me is a little dull and repetitive, and I think it's because the way it's put togther focuses on the wrong things. Like 90% of it is them eating and wandering through the woods. This ep had the same "Win orders too much food" gag as before - why do it twice?

The other thing that's getting irritating is the sexism - they make Win really weak because he's in a female body, although to be fair, he IS an uke, so we're lucky he can even walk unaided.

Thanks - I'm glad to have provided a silver lining for the cloud!

OK, I'll give Ep 4 a shot.

Thank you! That last ep - wow. Anti--climactic final eps have been a trend lately, but this series wins the Oscar for that.

Thanks! I'm glad someone was able to get some entertainement out of this debacle.