Am I the only one who was really annoyed by Phap in this episode? x) Like I get it, it's important to have fun…
He did what Maze told him to do - he just interpreted it in his own way, and it was very successful. He was a punk when he drank Neung's water, but it was unimportant. The point was that he knows when to be serious, like risking himself to rescue Neung, and knowing the right thing to say to revive Maze's spirt and allow him to reconcile with Neung.
Phab has NO MANNERS! What the HELL was that??? I'm so pissed!
You're mad he drank Nueng's water, but spent hours decorating his room and risked his life to save him and engineer a reconciliaion between him and Maze? Phab defies convention, but knows what's important and what's not.
Am I the only one confused by the ending? Like, I understand it but also it just felt rushed and missing something.…
I think we got a flash to an alternative timeline where the prince was killed (she said the prince was poisoned, which we know didn't happen in our story). The woman told Geum to take the painting and where to put it so it would be discovered and a new timeline would be created where Eun Ho would travel to the past and rescue the prince.
Can someone explain to me why so many people are so harsh about this series? I know it's not the best thing ever made, but it's quite charming.
It is too short - I usually defend shorter works, but this needed about 20 more minutes to flesh things out - the ending was a bit abrupt, and a little more setup of the premise would have helped.
But I haven't seen a couple in a Korean BL as convincing since Where Your Eyes Linger. These guys were not afraid of showing emotional intimacy.
For Thanu and Wayu I agree with you.. they both are too plain in their acting (no need to say I watched 2 moons…
I agree with everything you wrote, but I'm not sure the writing has people behaving logically (or rather logically illogical, if that makes sense) - as far as Sandee & Phai go, I think I haven't been paying enough attention, but I did notice that Sandee loves Phai, so I'm sure you must be right.
First of all, I'm so happy this forum isn't littered with the freakout in the YouTube comments over top & bottom, which the episode doesn't even address. So thank you all.
But I didn't get this episode - it didn't really do anything, which is odd for the second-to-last. There's some comment on the parallel with Junior, but that's meaningless because Junior is a child and Pat & Pran are adults. I was actually bored and ff through parts of it.
The first half of this series was among the best I've ever seen - but the second half, while still way better than 2gether, has had a similar fall-off. The writer doesn't seem to understand how to create, maintain, and resolve dramatic tension - it was done very well so long as the plot was following Romeo & Juliet, but then it just papered over all the conflict, and now they're breaking up for no apparent reason - just to manufacture drama through fiat rather than organically.
"My mother won't like it" isn't enough. Wai gave in without resistance, so why should we think the parents would be any different? This is conflict that we need to see to have any meaning - but instead it's just skipped over, and it looks like the writer is going to just surrender and solve everything through a time-jump. But the problem is, they're breaking up and resolving a non-existent conflict.
So all we're left with is an hour of cute scenes to be followed with an unmotivated breakup. Pran's mother certainly had a legitimate reason to be upset with Pat's father, but decades have past and she has a wonderful life now - it's not like she's wallowing in poverty and misery. Parents not being 100% thrilled with their children's choices of partners is not exactly unsusual - but almost all parents get past it if their children are happy.
Ohm & Nanon have great chemistry, but it hasn't developed - it's the same as it was in Ep 5. That's not their fault, it's the writing - they've performed their roles perfectly. But it doesn't make for compelling viewing for me.
The lack of seme and uke, however, is revolutionary and immensely appreciated - I hope the success of this show points more writers in that direction.
Really? Why was there a confusion? I thought it was implied heavily even though I found it hilarious given all…
I think maybe you saw it differently than was intended - nothing in that scene gave away who did what, which was the point. Also, and this is not an attack but a question, what character descriptions have we gotten throughout the series that has anything to do with top & bottom? The only thing I can think of is that Pran fits more closely to the Romeo role plot-wise, but this hasn't been following Romeo & Juliet very closely.
Why are all the actors experienced except the main couple? I don't understand the tendency to cast newcomers to lead roles. They're cute though. Although I guess that's the criterion. I hope it works out, but this looks like a messy plot.
That was painful to watch. I was wondering why we still had these virgin kisses with Mark and Kit but this explains…
They should have set this in high school where it could have been believable, and even then it would be a stretch. Are 20-year old men particularly well-known for sexual restraint? And society expects greater restraint from women than it does men, but even understanding that these stories are written by women, how many women could lie in a bed every night with a man they're really attracted to with nothing happening? 999 our of 1,000 women would assume he's gay if nothing happens after ONE night sleeping in bed together.
For Thanu and Wayu I agree with you.. they both are too plain in their acting (no need to say I watched 2 moons…
They're not 15, they're in their 20s. It's completely ridiculous that they haven't had sex - if they haven't found time for a "special moment" after being together and living together - and sleeping in the same bed - for months, then they're not mature enough to be in relationships. And if you don't have sexual passion at the beginning of your relationship, you never will - it fades with time, which is fine and normal.
Weirdlly, these series are hugely magnifying the importance of sex - it's not necessarily better with someone you love, and while it's a crucial part of an adult relationship, it's not that big a deal. Sex shouldn't be over-romanticized, romance should be romanticized.
And I'm sorry, but even Jesus would give in to temptation if he had to sleep in a bed with someone he was deeply attracted to every day - I don't even believe these two are human bings at this point. It's just a joke.
As far as Pok and Tong are concerned, Tong is in the wrong - what he did was despicable, not only because it's morally wrong, but because it could have ruined Sandee's chances. On the other hand, I don't understand why Pok forced himself on Tong like that if he had was planning to kick him out - that was also strange and a huge red flag, using sex to exert power over someone out of anger. People like that murder their partners. It was kind of hot, though,
Am I the only one that loves what Sandee is doing? Cause I'm so tired of Thanu and Wayu..I usually don't like…
No, you're not the only one. When it turns out that two men in their 20's who are in a relationship, live together, sleep in the same bed, but have never had sex, I'm done. I need to get a gun for Sandee - he's taking too long to destroy everyone.
It is too short - I usually defend shorter works, but this needed about 20 more minutes to flesh things out - the ending was a bit abrupt, and a little more setup of the premise would have helped.
But I haven't seen a couple in a Korean BL as convincing since Where Your Eyes Linger. These guys were not afraid of showing emotional intimacy.
But I didn't get this episode - it didn't really do anything, which is odd for the second-to-last. There's some comment on the parallel with Junior, but that's meaningless because Junior is a child and Pat & Pran are adults. I was actually bored and ff through parts of it.
The first half of this series was among the best I've ever seen - but the second half, while still way better than 2gether, has had a similar fall-off. The writer doesn't seem to understand how to create, maintain, and resolve dramatic tension - it was done very well so long as the plot was following Romeo & Juliet, but then it just papered over all the conflict, and now they're breaking up for no apparent reason - just to manufacture drama through fiat rather than organically.
"My mother won't like it" isn't enough. Wai gave in without resistance, so why should we think the parents would be any different? This is conflict that we need to see to have any meaning - but instead it's just skipped over, and it looks like the writer is going to just surrender and solve everything through a time-jump. But the problem is, they're breaking up and resolving a non-existent conflict.
So all we're left with is an hour of cute scenes to be followed with an unmotivated breakup. Pran's mother certainly had a legitimate reason to be upset with Pat's father, but decades have past and she has a wonderful life now - it's not like she's wallowing in poverty and misery. Parents not being 100% thrilled with their children's choices of partners is not exactly unsusual - but almost all parents get past it if their children are happy.
Ohm & Nanon have great chemistry, but it hasn't developed - it's the same as it was in Ep 5. That's not their fault, it's the writing - they've performed their roles perfectly. But it doesn't make for compelling viewing for me.
The lack of seme and uke, however, is revolutionary and immensely appreciated - I hope the success of this show points more writers in that direction.
Weirdlly, these series are hugely magnifying the importance of sex - it's not necessarily better with someone you love, and while it's a crucial part of an adult relationship, it's not that big a deal. Sex shouldn't be over-romanticized, romance should be romanticized.
And I'm sorry, but even Jesus would give in to temptation if he had to sleep in a bed with someone he was deeply attracted to every day - I don't even believe these two are human bings at this point. It's just a joke.
As far as Pok and Tong are concerned, Tong is in the wrong - what he did was despicable, not only because it's morally wrong, but because it could have ruined Sandee's chances. On the other hand, I don't understand why Pok forced himself on Tong like that if he had was planning to kick him out - that was also strange and a huge red flag, using sex to exert power over someone out of anger. People like that murder their partners. It was kind of hot, though,