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The cast is cute, but another college drama? Also, "enchante" is used enough in English (when you're acting pretentious ironically) that it really means "pleased to meet you", which doesn't make sense as a name. "I'll be your pleased to meet you." And it doesn't help that the trailer gave away the entire plot, not that all of us won't be able to accurately sketch it out episode by episode after the first 15 minutes.

This looks mediocre in every way, so naturally I'll watch it. And to be fair, it's a big positive that all the mains have previous acting experience, so we won't get mannequins that can somehow speak.

I would have to say no. The plot is cliched, and the acting not great. Maybe it would be worth it when the movie version comes out so that bad episodes blend in to better ones. I probably won't bother with the remaining 2 because the 6th was so bad.

About half your comment is posted separately below for some reason.

But I agree. I suspect you'll like Ep 6 even less - Yeong Woo gets 10 seconds of screen time, which seems odd given how short this is - do we really have time to dwell on I Bin like that? For me, Ki Jin is just kind of... there, whereas Hwang Yi Bin makes my skin crawl. Without Yeong Woo this is barely watchable.

That plus Yeong Woo showing up for no particular reason at just the precise instant to hear a phrase out of context to cause a misunderstanding, which is so tired and stupid a plot device it's hard to believe anyone could write that without feeling deep shame and embarassment.

I was enjoying this until Ep 6, when for me it took a dive off a cliff with cliched plot tropes and a focus on I Bin, even inserting a ballad with flashbacks, which is incomprehensible given how short the drama is - why waste so much time on some creepy guy and only allow the main character 10 seconds of screen time?

I really liked the first couple of episodes of this, but I think it's really bogged down at this point. For such a short run-time it needs to focus on the main pair, and instead it's detoured into I Bin, who is so creepy I almost can't watch him. Plus this ep did the stereotypical having the read romantic interest show up in a one-in-a-billion coincidence to hear one phrase out of context to cause a misunderstanding, which is a good sign of creative bankruptcy. And why would you waste half an episode on a ballad about a creep not getting his way?

It's not terrible or anything, but I've kind of lost interest in the story. Why shouldn't I if the writers clearly have as well? I'm not feeling the chemistry between the leads, but then they're hardly onscreen together.

Really? I like Tinted WIth You much better. I started out liking this one, but the focus on the profoundly creepy I Bin instead of the main pair made the last couple of eps really unpleasant to watch, plus Ep 6 was a bit confusing and messy with the non-linear bits. I like Tinted a lot more.

Not to mention the lack of consequences for the villain. "Hey, you committed first degree murder for petty greed!" "I'm sorry." "OK, since you're sorry, no prob."

So it's a BL and so far het/homo love scenes are 2-0, including a fairly graphic one. This series has managed to be boring and uncomfortable to watch at the same time - there are scenes I just have to skip because I can't deal with it.

They've lived together as a couple for a year and Judah still looks away in embarassment at Rocky's nudity? And that date they had - they haven't had a moment alone in weeks or months, and so their date is something that a 10-year-old girl might imagine? I don't really see any reason why Judah and Rocky are together - they barely know each other after all this time and have solved none of their issues.

And if Judah is so rich, why is he living in a hovel with 4 roommates?

Most of the first half was filler, and while Eps 5 & 6 did show movement, did it move anywhere I wanted to see? This has done everything except develop Judah & Rocky's relationship. Tonally, the events of Ep 6 for Judah clash really unpleasantly with Beshie & Kulas' interaction, and frankly, Beshie is torture to watch. He was fine as a bit character, but as a main character he's unbearable. He's OK when he turns it down a couple of notches, but otherwise he's too OTT without having the fierceness to pull if off - it just feels forced.

The first season was one of the better BLs I've seen - this is near the bottom, and is one of the larger disappointments of the year.

Got it - makes sense. TBH, it really should have had a sad ending, because they one they gave us wasn't very plausible (by the rules of the universe they set up, plus there's not a lot of support for tangible ghosts spending their life with you) and sudden. They could just have had them meet again in a different life to make it a hopeful ending.

I mean right now, not ever (i.e. past series). Although Not Me started since I wrote that.

The first ep ends with Ghost realizing Boy's mother is his ex. Wasn't that like two-thirds of the way through the Thai version? It must have been at least half way.

There's a Vietnamese version of this, but it moves 6 times faster than the Thai version, which could have used a little condensing, TBH, except for the last episode, grrr. Anyway, there's a note about it under the spoiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x21zXX4vieE&ab_channel=PDIDFILM

Yup. I loved the first six eps, then I wished I had stopped there.

Did you finish watching it? I'm confused about what you find sad.

You should spoiler these - that's too key to the story. I would be irritated if I hadn't already seen it.

It feels like YOU are being nuanced but I don't see the show doing it - on the contrary it's blatantly romanticising vigilantism. Your response and those of everyone else above make me wish you were writing the story, but you're not defending it from the material that's been presented in the show. White originally thought he was doing something wrong, but nobody else does, and he seems to be becoming Black and accepting his new role. He won the contest to decide what their next mission would be, and instead of picking something that would minimize violence, he endorsed Sean's plan to do something even more radical than arson, which almost killed several people last time.

Again, it's too early to judge and I don't think it will be clear for quite some time, but the screenwriter/director has in her past projects emphasized dramatic plot twists, not so much complex social commentary. All the above is why I'm 100% certain that Tod is as evil as evil gets. He's rich, therefore he's evil. Likewise, I'm sure we can all guess what Sean's connection to his target is.

MLK died, but if he had taken a violent revolutionary route, he would have died a lot quicker and he would have set back civil rights by decades. Violent solutions almost always lead to results that were just as bad as the problem they were trying to solve or worse - except on TV.

I can only think of one or two BL characters who has self-indentified as bisexual. (like Fiat in My Gear and Your Gown). They almost always identify as straight, which is a long-standing trope with a long history in BL's Yaoi roots. And a guy who's into men and women isn't necessarily bisexual, either - that's another black and white assertion.

And nothing has anything to do with my political stance, which I haven't discussed. Rich=evil is simply simplistic.

And what on earth are you arguing? That bloody coups are OK if they work? I said Ghandi and MLK had it right because they took the morally correct route - it most certaintly wasn't the quickest.

I don't have a problem with the greyness of the characters - I actually prefer that. My problem is the lack of shading so far in the themes the series is purporting to examine.

I agree that there are distinctions between privilege and wealth, and it's complicated, which is exactly my point. This series is not approaching this with any nuance - it's a very shallow social commentary and thus not useful. Much like Manner of Death, anyone with any money or power is evil, period (e,g, I thought the judge in MoD would be a symbol of the good in government, but nope, he had power, so he was evil). Tod appears to be very wealthy, and I can guarantee he'll turn out to be very evil (but very sexy and evil), and I'm willing to bet money he's behind what happened to Black.

White was against the arson, but he still went, and he just approved Sean's plan for a more aggressive attack - which means more aggressive than arson, so we're not talking about graffiti here.

Speaking of which, Grafitti isn't really acceptable - it usually damages personal property, and usually that of people who can't afford to clean it up - even when it's public property, it's tax money that has to be used to clean it, which is a burden on lower-income people. In some US cities spaces are allocted for it, which is in many places accepted as a legitimate art form. In Europe too.

As for romance, it's fast enough, I'm just not sure it will be that important to the story - I hope it is. And it's not the speed that's irritating me, it's once again the tired trope of straight guys falling in love, which is so regressive that nobody should accept it at this point. But my point is that if it's not going to lean on romance and is going to go heavily for social commentary, then that commentary needs to be meaningful, and so far it's not.

It's too early in the series to pass any final judgments on it, so it's a little strange to hear people in this forum praising to high heaven. It may be great, and it may crash and burn. BB is almost over, and it's delievered. I don't know why everyone says they're not comparable - they're very comparable. You can compare just about anything, but it's not a rivalry, and I'm not sure why so many people insist on viewing it that way - it's kind of ridiciulous to make yourself dislike something because you view it as a rival of something you like.

I'm not really feeling the social commentary here. First of all, it's way too on-the-nose. That rap song was so literal that I'm not sure it counts as music or art - it was just a political speech. Also, the binary poor=good and rich=evil is insultingly simplistic. There are plenty of good rich people and evil poor people. Taking the law into your own hands and hurting people through pre-meditated violence is no better than being exploitative and manipulating the system. In fact it's worse, because it always causes the power structure to tighten its grip and become more oppressive and hurt more innocent people. Ghandi & MLK had it right.

Second, I'm kind of over romances between straight guys. I guess that means I'm tired of BL, but there it is.

This is a really high-quality production and I like the two couples - Off in particular is showing more range than I've seen from him before, but if it doesn't start to focus on the BL interaction soon I'll lose interest.

I do like that White is behaving like an intelligent person now and cleverly sidestepping discussions that could cause problems. But if he can't see that Tod is the Big Bad of the series, he's an idiot. Does Tod need to get a hairless cat before White gets it?

Fine af but evil.