I'm getting tied of how difficult it is to even watch BLs now. I have a VIP subscription to Viki but Ep 6 won't be available for two days. What's the point of Viki, then? I never watch pirated versions unless there's absolutely no other option - I even play the ads to support the genre - but I'm going to watch illegal copies of this as I'm a bit pissed off. VPNs are great if you can get one to connect, but what a hassle that is, and you can't do anything else while you're on it, even pause to look up an actor.
We're already forced to watch 20 minutes of BL boys using face cream on their already porcelain skin and drinking toxic sugary fluids likely to cause problems with their porcelain skin, plus the ads of whatever service the series is broadcast on. Now paying for access in addition is not enough?
Thank you, I feel much better now.
EDIT: Now I have to watch the same ad about ulcerative colitis over and over. Sigh.
Yup! The amount of messaging that teenage girls get, from all types of media to some well-meaning parents, that…
I don't think it's internalized misogyny so much as the audience responding to the misogyny of the writers. One might note that there are few things as sexually repacious and predatory as a teenaged boy, yet they're all written like angelic Victorian-era 12-year old girls (they are, after all, fantasy boyfriends aimed at younger women who are likely tired of dealing with said rapaciousness), yet the actual girls are all evil manipulative vixens.
It's very possible for a girl to get a boy by persistance, especially a gay one who is terrified of being exposed and when people are confused why he doesn't go for someone willing. Or, if he's straight, it might just be easier to give in to the social pressure she's organized than to resist. As you noted, these relationships never last. The former because, well, he's gay, and the latter is likely to get bored and go after someone he's actually attracted to.
The former was my situation, the latter my best friend's. Ironically, in a truly BL twist on reality, I later jokingly confronted him on giving in to her when I should have been first in line. Not jokingly, he said I had never asked and he would have chosen me over her. Needless to say, as this is decades later, I have lingering regrets in life.
1. Acting. 2. Writing. This feels like it was written as a screenplay - too many BLs are adapted from meandering…
They think it's a choice. If you pursue a straight boy hard enough, instead of being killed, he will turn gay for you. But only you. He can only be with one boy ever. If it's two then he's gay.
I don't think the bottoms necessarily look or behave particularly feminine (more on that below), but they are all useless and need a real man to take care of them. They faint when sunlight touches them, they can only walk for a few steps before the they trip, and they are incapable of standing up for themselves, even if they're a 6' tall and very muscular like Tine on 2Gether. The uke is usually a lot smaller, which I suppose gives them a feminine air.
There are two types of uke - one is gay and therefore effeminate (like FLuke & Earth in Until We Meet Again). The other is "normal" and has to be forced by the seme/top because it's not acceptable for a man to pursue and enjoy bottoming (like Type in TharnType). There are very few exceptions, alhough there is a third opton where there's no sex whatsover so it never really comes up, like Love Sick.
I take your point about teenage expectations - but then shouldn't we give DaOn some leeway for being a teen too? They're not exactly known for their EQ.
BTW, your most important point above is the root of one of my largest complaints about BL - which is that boys rarely "organically" fall in love - it's always a result of something situational (in this case a dildo up the ass, but usually when the uke [always, always the uke] trips, the seme catches him and they stare), or serious persisant pursuit which convices a straight boy that he's willing to go gay (for one boy, and one boy only, forever and ever, Amen).
In real life, if a girl pursues a guy who's not into her with dogged persistance, she'll likely suffer for it socially. If a gay boy pursues a straight guy with dogged persistance, he'll likely be beaten to death. Or in a more tolerant society (which Korea most certainly is NOT), be in the same shoes as the girl.
Male sexuality doesn't work this way. He's either attracted or he's not. He's not suddenly going to see the beauty of your soul and change his mind (at least not a teen boy!) I get how a change in attitude is a staple of all romance, but a change in sexuality is not the same thing as a change in attitude - which suggests these cultures assume homosexuality is a choice, as if this is still the 1950s.
1. Acting. 2. Writing. This feels like it was written as a screenplay - too many BLs are adapted from meandering…
Yes - exactly. That's what this bothers me so much - it comes from homophobia. You'll also notice that the uke often has to be forced, usually in a way that romanticizes sexual assault - this is because it's considered morally preferable to assault or rape someone than for a man to seek and take pleasure in being penetrated. It's saying you're only really gay if you're a willing bottom. You'll notice the person who says "I'm not gay, I only like________" is always the seme, although usually neither character is gay.
This homophobia is accentuated by casting only very straight-acting actors (there have been casting calls that explicitly say "no gays") and having as a contrast extremely effeminate gay characters who are all unpleasant - loud and sexaully predatory, pathetic and there only for comic relief.
There's a little bit of very slow improvement, and now you will occassionally see overtly gay main characters, but they are still almost always the bottom. Smaller productions occassionally have a main gay character, but the major studios almost never do.
Honestly that's what i'm afraid of too that Da On doesn't like TK as anything more than a friend but he has been…
Waving the dildo and shouting that Shin must have dropped it was quite funny - I didn't find it so the first time because I was still out of the story due to the accidental dildo-up-ass shoving.
Honestly that's what i'm afraid of too that Da On doesn't like TK as anything more than a friend but he has been…
Well, for 1), if you hit a red light, you might not think much of it. But if you hit "hundreds every day" they will annoy the holy f@#$ out of you. Even if you hit two or three in a row you'll give a weary sigh. That's what tropes are like. They rip me right out of the story and cancel the fluffiness, which is then devoid of any organic emotional meaning. If the boys are only in love because one tripped and the other caught him, that's stupid. If they have to share a bed for some reason and end up wrapped around each other by morning, that's cute and fluffy.
There's a difference between a trope and a plot formula - so "accidental kiss" is a particularly stupid trope, but enemies to lovers is a story framework, which while not particularly original, is tried but true and works - and there are only so many options, right? Love at first sight, enemies to lovers, and what else? Alien abductor to lover would be original, but that's not how people typically meet. OR IS IT.
For2), please don't say that out loud, or it may happen - given the imitativeness of BL, I'm afraid we're already in the process of adding an accidental-dildo-up-the-ass trope, although at this point if it means less trip/catch/stare, I can live with it.
And I might note that a bottle is a perfectly serviceable substitute for a proper dildo in an emergency.
This is a little like an accident on the road that you can't look away from. I know the production is trying, but maybe they need to import some specialized talent. Like writers. What exactly is the plot? We're moving in circles. The main Andrei/Sef storyline is just barely watchable, but even then, the most watchable thing about them has his hair obscuring his face all the time in an unflattering way, not to mention the hideous school uniforms. If Sef's character is going to be domineering, it needs to feel like a man taking possession of what's his, not a boy that acts up when other kids play with his toys.
The roommate thing was pretty funny - when the landlady said the room was sized for two I couldn't stop laughing, but it's too cute to see the boys stuffed into that tiny bed, and to be fair, the two of them combined can't weigh more than 100 kg.
Andre's multiple personality disorder when it comes to Sef is tiresome. We know for a fact that Allen can do sexy, but here it's more petulant child. With two beautiful leads the chemistry should take care of itself, but I'm not feeling it - it's still striking poses. The two actors are obviously not attracted to each other, which is problemmatic. They needed workshops.
The secondary storylines are horrifying - misogynist, fat-shaming, transphobic, homophobic, just about every -phobic you can stuff into them. I've started skipping over them and pretending they don't exist so I can pretend to have a clear conscience when I watch Allen's posing. He needs to wear less, BTW.
Technical problems continue to be annoying - sound issues were better, but the editing needs a lot of work.
No bed can be too small if you share it with a guy like Allen.
He can be as obnoxous as he wants, but he needs to ditch the flannel pajamas. In a warm climate like that, there's really no need to wear anything to bed.
It's terrible. If I understand your tastes correctly, you'd loathe it. It's boring, poorly acted, there's no chemistry between the leads, and the female characters are excruciating. The only thing this has going for it is Migo's body, butt shots and all.
Ugh. Why? Why did they feel compelled to ruin this with that line? TBH, it wasn't as bad as usual, because it's at odds with his behavior, like he made it clear he was manipularing Kong into asking him for his LineID, etc. If it were clear that it was just a line, it would have been fine, but as it was, it just didn't fit and felt like someone felt obligated to put it in, to make up for the lack of howling ladyboys, accidental kisses, and engineers, although we do have high school students in a math-science programs, so that's as close as you can get.
Extremely disappointing in what had other than that been a nearly perfect story. It's not a small fault to overlook - it's a rather large bomb. To have ended the first part on a sweet but ambiguous note, and the second on a not sweet ambiguous note with a sour taste is a real pity. Part 1 was a 9.5/10 - this was a 9/10 until the last minute, which was a 1/10, so maybe a 6 overall.
This episode really disappointed me. The kiss was so stupid and formulaic that it had no impact for me. From the ridiculous and so-overused-it's-not-funny triple-shot to the lips only touching, to the uke having his eyes wide open in surprise (which didn't even make sense since it wasn't a surprise), ugh. What a passionless and cartoonish joke. It's like everyone is terrified of being original. This series started out being kind of special, and now suddenly it's become a dreary formula - and there's a fine line berween slow-burn and boring * repetitive. I don't even want to finish watching.
On a minor note, I think there may be polonium in the eggs - they might want to avoid them, although I suppose it's too late - the radiation dosage must have been fatal.
What on earth is going on with this? What happened? S1 was one of the surprises of last year - one of my favorites. This is terrible and pointless, except for Emil in BDSM outfit.
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We're already forced to watch 20 minutes of BL boys using face cream on their already porcelain skin and drinking toxic sugary fluids likely to cause problems with their porcelain skin, plus the ads of whatever service the series is broadcast on. Now paying for access in addition is not enough?
Thank you, I feel much better now.
EDIT: Now I have to watch the same ad about ulcerative colitis over and over. Sigh.
It's very possible for a girl to get a boy by persistance, especially a gay one who is terrified of being exposed and when people are confused why he doesn't go for someone willing. Or, if he's straight, it might just be easier to give in to the social pressure she's organized than to resist. As you noted, these relationships never last. The former because, well, he's gay, and the latter is likely to get bored and go after someone he's actually attracted to.
The former was my situation, the latter my best friend's. Ironically, in a truly BL twist on reality, I later jokingly confronted him on giving in to her when I should have been first in line. Not jokingly, he said I had never asked and he would have chosen me over her. Needless to say, as this is decades later, I have lingering regrets in life.
I don't think the bottoms necessarily look or behave particularly feminine (more on that below), but they are all useless and need a real man to take care of them. They faint when sunlight touches them, they can only walk for a few steps before the they trip, and they are incapable of standing up for themselves, even if they're a 6' tall and very muscular like Tine on 2Gether. The uke is usually a lot smaller, which I suppose gives them a feminine air.
There are two types of uke - one is gay and therefore effeminate (like FLuke & Earth in Until We Meet Again). The other is "normal" and has to be forced by the seme/top because it's not acceptable for a man to pursue and enjoy bottoming (like Type in TharnType). There are very few exceptions, alhough there is a third opton where there's no sex whatsover so it never really comes up, like Love Sick.
BTW, your most important point above is the root of one of my largest complaints about BL - which is that boys rarely "organically" fall in love - it's always a result of something situational (in this case a dildo up the ass, but usually when the uke [always, always the uke] trips, the seme catches him and they stare), or serious persisant pursuit which convices a straight boy that he's willing to go gay (for one boy, and one boy only, forever and ever, Amen).
In real life, if a girl pursues a guy who's not into her with dogged persistance, she'll likely suffer for it socially. If a gay boy pursues a straight guy with dogged persistance, he'll likely be beaten to death. Or in a more tolerant society (which Korea most certainly is NOT), be in the same shoes as the girl.
Male sexuality doesn't work this way. He's either attracted or he's not. He's not suddenly going to see the beauty of your soul and change his mind (at least not a teen boy!) I get how a change in attitude is a staple of all romance, but a change in sexuality is not the same thing as a change in attitude - which suggests these cultures assume homosexuality is a choice, as if this is still the 1950s.
This homophobia is accentuated by casting only very straight-acting actors (there have been casting calls that explicitly say "no gays") and having as a contrast extremely effeminate gay characters who are all unpleasant - loud and sexaully predatory, pathetic and there only for comic relief.
There's a little bit of very slow improvement, and now you will occassionally see overtly gay main characters, but they are still almost always the bottom. Smaller productions occassionally have a main gay character, but the major studios almost never do.
There's a difference between a trope and a plot formula - so "accidental kiss" is a particularly stupid trope, but enemies to lovers is a story framework, which while not particularly original, is tried but true and works - and there are only so many options, right? Love at first sight, enemies to lovers, and what else? Alien abductor to lover would be original, but that's not how people typically meet. OR IS IT.
For2), please don't say that out loud, or it may happen - given the imitativeness of BL, I'm afraid we're already in the process of adding an accidental-dildo-up-the-ass trope, although at this point if it means less trip/catch/stare, I can live with it.
And I might note that a bottle is a perfectly serviceable substitute for a proper dildo in an emergency.
The roommate thing was pretty funny - when the landlady said the room was sized for two I couldn't stop laughing, but it's too cute to see the boys stuffed into that tiny bed, and to be fair, the two of them combined can't weigh more than 100 kg.
Andre's multiple personality disorder when it comes to Sef is tiresome. We know for a fact that Allen can do sexy, but here it's more petulant child. With two beautiful leads the chemistry should take care of itself, but I'm not feeling it - it's still striking poses. The two actors are obviously not attracted to each other, which is problemmatic. They needed workshops.
The secondary storylines are horrifying - misogynist, fat-shaming, transphobic, homophobic, just about every -phobic you can stuff into them. I've started skipping over them and pretending they don't exist so I can pretend to have a clear conscience when I watch Allen's posing. He needs to wear less, BTW.
Technical problems continue to be annoying - sound issues were better, but the editing needs a lot of work.
Extremely disappointing in what had other than that been a nearly perfect story. It's not a small fault to overlook - it's a rather large bomb. To have ended the first part on a sweet but ambiguous note, and the second on a not sweet ambiguous note with a sour taste is a real pity. Part 1 was a 9.5/10 - this was a 9/10 until the last minute, which was a 1/10, so maybe a 6 overall.
On a minor note, I think there may be polonium in the eggs - they might want to avoid them, although I suppose it's too late - the radiation dosage must have been fatal.