"Sir, would you like some BL with your product placement?" "No thanks, I'll have another serving of product placement, please."
This is not a criticism, because it's cute, but the translators should stop trying to use colloquialisms. "okey-doke" is something your great-aunt would say.
OK, that ep was really dull and frustrating, except for the secondary couple (and Bank's surprisingly hot body), and the girls are several levels beyond tiresome at this point. How many times does someone have to remove your hands from his body before you accept that he doesn't want you touching him? If their sexes were reversed it would be beyond creepy.
Boat is amazing - he's so expressive and I feel it all. That was one of the only times a drunk person behaved like a drunk person - and he didn't vomit! Yay! He said he doesn't remember anything, which would be silly, but I think he does remember.
There is heavy competition, but wow, Boat just might be the most beautiful/handsome BL actor ever. Looks great…
Not to mention the pythons. The girls are getting annoying. To be fair, they were told Sun and Bank are relatives, so they may just think they're very close. Actually, this whole episosde was kind of dull and annoying, except the secondary couple and everything Boat did. I wish he had a more dynamic partner in this.
Well, I'm out. Last week I said the cliffhanger was a fakeout and nothing would happen, and sure enough, they didn't even really say anything to each other.
That episode was one long, unpleasant frustration. The ,main couple have barely interacted for weeks and the creepy ex has completely taken over the show. It was already too late in the story to introduce him, but BL just can't help itself when it comes to following the formula. At least it's a man and not an evil ex-gf.
The mains are acting like small children, not grown adults in their mid-late 20s. To be honest, I don't even care if they get together anymore and I couldn't get through this ep without skippping parts.
There is no chance they will be able to end this in a satisfying way with only one more short ep left. It will end with a rubber kiss in the last 10 seconds. I wanted to see the interaction between Yu Zhen and Shi Lei - that's really all this series had going for it, and now we get nothing. Next ep will be consumed by the resolution of the straight couple's situation and more implausible miscommunication between the mains.
What a disappointment - a couple of weeks ago this was almost the only show I was looking forward to each week and now I won't even bother with the finale.
OK, Ep 2 was 50% flashback - it's getting annoying.
I like that they acknowledged that they're ripping off 2gether - it was a funny joke. But that does beg the question, why was IG watching 2gether?
Unfortunately, the scenes from Ep 3 had yet another tired cliche - the mutual screaming upon seeing each other naked, as if they're not in high school and haven't see every single person in their class naked multiple times. I don't think I can make myself watch anymore.
In Ep 1 I liked that the taxi driver took advantage of the country bumkin instead of being a hot guy with a heart of gold that transforms his life - that says there may be some attempt at realism in this series. Then Main Character stepped foot on campus and the girls screeched for like five minutes when they saw him, because girls in a city of 10M people have never seen a half-attractive guy before, I guess, and I couldn't hit my space bar fast enough.
Is this a good story, or is it an endless collection of tiresome tropes? I'm seriously asking so I know whether or not to invest the time in it.
And again, the actual gay guy is effeminate and predatory, although at least he's nice and doesn't screech like a banshee whenever a boy comes within eyesight.
And now we're having flashbacks to a scene that just happened - like the previous scene. Does this rise above this terrible writing? The acting is OK and I like the grittiness, but it's really a chore to get through ep 1. Is the rest of it better, or more of the same?
This looks like yet another story about straight guys. Scenes from next week show surprise kiss with lips just touching and eyes wide open, Official Trope #45.
1. Acting. 2. Writing. This feels like it was written as a screenplay - too many BLs are adapted from meandering…
Almost all the authors of the novels Thai BLs are based on are women, whose experience in life obviously isn't going to include a lot of being a gay male. That's not to say women can't write fantastic stories with gay characters - it's just that these particular ones are a bit on the mediocre side, largely imitations of earlier more original works. If you watch SOTUS today, it will seem a lot like all other BLs, but that's because all other BLs imitate it.
Filipino BLs generally have better LGBTQ+ involvement and better representation, although that's very uneven, but suffer from much lower budgets and production values, although they've had great successes like Gaya Sa Pelikula, Hello Stranger, and Gameboys. Lately the Philippines has been in a bit of a rut.
The seme/uke dynamic is a relic of Japanese yaoi manga of the 1980s, and has been more or less retired in Japanese BL, and I'm not sure why it's such a fixture of Thai BL - but I would think the appeal of having two men is that you can get away from traditional male/female roles - in fact, a lot of Thai drama with heterosexual couples has moved much further from traditional roles than BL. I think in a lot of Asian countries some people have trouble getting their heads around the idea of a masculine guy getting butt-f@#$ed, as if there's something wrong with that. But that attitude -worldwide, not just in Asia - has thousands of years of force behind it and will take some sustained effort to change.
Here lately Shin Woo hasn't been being an asshole though. I admit he still isn't communicating his feelings very…
It's possible he didn't realize that's what he was feeling, and in any case, she had no right to ask him that. In any case, there are three options when someone asks something like that. You can say "yes", you can say "I don't want to discuss this" which is also "yes", or you can lie. She left him little choice as I'm sure he knows she'd retaliate against Tae if he said yes.
But if he's confused about his feelings, then he's not really lying. He's young enough for that to be very possible. If you have no real idea about what being gay is, you may not understand your feelings are more than friendship.
Here lately Shin Woo hasn't been being an asshole though. I admit he still isn't communicating his feelings very…
He's being creepy and disturbing in Tae's eyes, so he needs to work on his social skills.
Tae is completely within his rights to refuse to go stay up late doing Karaoke on a school night. They met at six, so it's likely 8-9 pm when they decide to go. Tae said he didn't want to go, and grabbing someone's wrist as they're walking away is very aggressive, and he wasn't letting go, which is weird. Altough to be fair, it's almost impossible for a BL character to leave a room without someone grabbing his wrist, so in BL world everyone should expect it to happen.
I really don't get how you can say that's messed up. Tae has a crush on DaOn - who clearly likes him back - not Shin Woo, who had his chance. If Shin Woo said "let's go to dinner and get to know each other better", of course Tae would accept. This was just group Karaoke, he wasn't rejecting Shin Woo in particular. Tae hasn't been mean or dismissive to Shin Woo, he's just not reacting to him like he has a crush on him, because he doesn't (yet). He even called out Shin Woo for avoiding him last ep, so who has been rejecting whose attempts at being friends? Just because he just now started trying doesn't mean Tae has any way of knowing that.
DaOn very clearly likes Tae, although he wasn't willing to say it, at least not to So Hee. Possibly he didn't realize that's what he was feeling until she said it. I didn't realize it when I was that age, or at least I was in denial about it.
Regarding those toxic sugary fluids that BL characters seem to drink (especially Thai high school characters and…
That's bubble tea - it's very popular here in California where a third of the popuation is Asian. It's usually rather sweet with milk in it, and the chewy things are tapioca balls. There's usually a very large straw that's wide enough to suck up the balls.
When it first showed up here, a friend said we were going to a tapioca place, and I love tapioca pudding so I was excited. And then it was that. I don't get why anyone likes it - it's like chewing hard, flavorless gum. But it's a thing.
The student council at this high school doesn't appear to do anything student council-like. Does Doan ever preside…
I have a cousin who at his wedding jammed the cake so far into his bride's face that she nearly choked. She got him back good. My mother was completely scandalized. At my parents' wedding, she and my father in his military dress uniform are seen in photos to be elegantly serving a bit to each other with forks. But now the face-smash is more or less obligatory.
In this case I think Shi Woon made it up to embarass Shin Woo.
I was starting to really warm up to this series until this ep. I really hate So Hee. Not just hate her, but hate that her character is in the series. It completely ruins it for me. A love triangle inherently contains enough dramatic potential to drive a series without this stupid, tiresome misogynist cliche.
For those of you irritated with DaOn, how is Shin Woo any better? He's certainly not communicating his feelings, and it's better to be too nice than it is to be too much of an asshole. And DaOn referred to So Hee as "their cute little sister" - which is more than clear enough. Now she's just a selfish evil b@$^% if she doesn't give up.
I'd take DaOn anyday - as Mr. Right. Definietly Shin Woo as Mr. Tonight. Although I'd still go for Teacher Seo over all of them.
BTW, do we really need to give everyone these bad haircuts? Does this look anything like the character he's playing? Would you even know who it is if his name weren't on it?
The way it is now doesn't really represent anyone. 99% of male BL characters are technically bi, but none of them identify as such, so they're neither bi, nor gay, nor really even straight. They're... hmm.... Well, they're BL characters. There is no real-life analogue.
I think male sexuality is more object-oriented and shallow than female, but some of the "depth" in women is just for show. A boy is more likely to call someone unnattractive, whereas a girl will put a fig-leaf on it assigning the label "creepy" to give her shallowness the appearance of being personality-based, when the exact same behavior from a hot guy would romantic or appealing. That's a generalization, but it probably sounds familiar.
Actually, even the existence of ukes (and semes) is untrue to life. Top & bottom aren't personality types, they're sexual positions, and most couples do both, although usually there's at least one of the pair that has a marked preference one way or the other. But you would have no idea who does what just by looking at them, and the "man" of the house is just as likely to be the bottom.
The lack of lube is kind of funny, but since BLs won't show anything, it would look weird to be applying that while the camera is strictly waist-up. It's also kind of funny how nobody ever sweats and the sheets are always pristine afterwards, but I guess that's largely true of all drama everywhere. Maybe their pores are blocked by the inch of white makeup plastered over them.
Yup! The amount of messaging that teenage girls get, from all types of media to some well-meaning parents, that…
Everyone would hate it. When he was in college he made a bit of a move on me and I freaked out and left. I think I saw him one more time after that because he got a girlfriend who was insanely jealous and he was a DaOnian conflict avoider. A few year later, a mutual friend read that he died in a car crash, and I was really upset for a long time. But she was wrong (he has a very common name) because she's an idiot. I think I took her word for it a because it was a excellent explanation for why I hadn't heard from him in years, and she worked for the newspaper the (wrong) obituary was in.
He contacted me almost 20 years later and I blew him off because I was dealing with a lot (2008 - economic collapse in NYC which + depression), plus I'd already mourned his death. He got mad and I haven't heard from him since.
The "fake death" is also very BL. Hmm. I have to reconsider my ranting and raving against silly plot devices. It's funny how silly it sounds when I write it all out like that.
I loved him but wasn't "in love" with him (although I was certainly in lust with him - he was really athletic and handsome). The boy I was actually in love with had mutual feelings for me but couldn't deal with it so he married his girlfriend and enlisted in the Marines. The End. Unfortunately that is boring and entirely typical of the gay high school experience of my day. The girlfriend was evil and manipulative, though, so there's that.
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This is not a criticism, because it's cute, but the translators should stop trying to use colloquialisms. "okey-doke" is something your great-aunt would say.
OK, that ep was really dull and frustrating, except for the secondary couple (and Bank's surprisingly hot body), and the girls are several levels beyond tiresome at this point. How many times does someone have to remove your hands from his body before you accept that he doesn't want you touching him? If their sexes were reversed it would be beyond creepy.
Boat is amazing - he's so expressive and I feel it all. That was one of the only times a drunk person behaved like a drunk person - and he didn't vomit! Yay! He said he doesn't remember anything, which would be silly, but I think he does remember.
That episode was one long, unpleasant frustration. The ,main couple have barely interacted for weeks and the creepy ex has completely taken over the show. It was already too late in the story to introduce him, but BL just can't help itself when it comes to following the formula. At least it's a man and not an evil ex-gf.
The mains are acting like small children, not grown adults in their mid-late 20s. To be honest, I don't even care if they get together anymore and I couldn't get through this ep without skippping parts.
There is no chance they will be able to end this in a satisfying way with only one more short ep left. It will end with a rubber kiss in the last 10 seconds. I wanted to see the interaction between Yu Zhen and Shi Lei - that's really all this series had going for it, and now we get nothing. Next ep will be consumed by the resolution of the straight couple's situation and more implausible miscommunication between the mains.
What a disappointment - a couple of weeks ago this was almost the only show I was looking forward to each week and now I won't even bother with the finale.
I like that they acknowledged that they're ripping off 2gether - it was a funny joke. But that does beg the question, why was IG watching 2gether?
Unfortunately, the scenes from Ep 3 had yet another tired cliche - the mutual screaming upon seeing each other naked, as if they're not in high school and haven't see every single person in their class naked multiple times. I don't think I can make myself watch anymore.
Is this a good story, or is it an endless collection of tiresome tropes? I'm seriously asking so I know whether or not to invest the time in it.
And again, the actual gay guy is effeminate and predatory, although at least he's nice and doesn't screech like a banshee whenever a boy comes within eyesight.
And now we're having flashbacks to a scene that just happened - like the previous scene. Does this rise above this terrible writing? The acting is OK and I like the grittiness, but it's really a chore to get through ep 1. Is the rest of it better, or more of the same?
This looks like yet another story about straight guys. Scenes from next week show surprise kiss with lips just touching and eyes wide open, Official Trope #45.
Filipino BLs generally have better LGBTQ+ involvement and better representation, although that's very uneven, but suffer from much lower budgets and production values, although they've had great successes like Gaya Sa Pelikula, Hello Stranger, and Gameboys. Lately the Philippines has been in a bit of a rut.
The seme/uke dynamic is a relic of Japanese yaoi manga of the 1980s, and has been more or less retired in Japanese BL, and I'm not sure why it's such a fixture of Thai BL - but I would think the appeal of having two men is that you can get away from traditional male/female roles - in fact, a lot of Thai drama with heterosexual couples has moved much further from traditional roles than BL. I think in a lot of Asian countries some people have trouble getting their heads around the idea of a masculine guy getting butt-f@#$ed, as if there's something wrong with that. But that attitude -worldwide, not just in Asia - has thousands of years of force behind it and will take some sustained effort to change.
But if he's confused about his feelings, then he's not really lying. He's young enough for that to be very possible. If you have no real idea about what being gay is, you may not understand your feelings are more than friendship.
Tae is completely within his rights to refuse to go stay up late doing Karaoke on a school night. They met at six, so it's likely 8-9 pm when they decide to go. Tae said he didn't want to go, and grabbing someone's wrist as they're walking away is very aggressive, and he wasn't letting go, which is weird. Altough to be fair, it's almost impossible for a BL character to leave a room without someone grabbing his wrist, so in BL world everyone should expect it to happen.
I really don't get how you can say that's messed up. Tae has a crush on DaOn - who clearly likes him back - not Shin Woo, who had his chance. If Shin Woo said "let's go to dinner and get to know each other better", of course Tae would accept. This was just group Karaoke, he wasn't rejecting Shin Woo in particular. Tae hasn't been mean or dismissive to Shin Woo, he's just not reacting to him like he has a crush on him, because he doesn't (yet). He even called out Shin Woo for avoiding him last ep, so who has been rejecting whose attempts at being friends? Just because he just now started trying doesn't mean Tae has any way of knowing that.
DaOn very clearly likes Tae, although he wasn't willing to say it, at least not to So Hee. Possibly he didn't realize that's what he was feeling until she said it. I didn't realize it when I was that age, or at least I was in denial about it.
When it first showed up here, a friend said we were going to a tapioca place, and I love tapioca pudding so I was excited. And then it was that. I don't get why anyone likes it - it's like chewing hard, flavorless gum. But it's a thing.
In this case I think Shi Woon made it up to embarass Shin Woo.
For those of you irritated with DaOn, how is Shin Woo any better? He's certainly not communicating his feelings, and it's better to be too nice than it is to be too much of an asshole. And DaOn referred to So Hee as "their cute little sister" - which is more than clear enough. Now she's just a selfish evil b@$^% if she doesn't give up.
I'd take DaOn anyday - as Mr. Right. Definietly Shin Woo as Mr. Tonight. Although I'd still go for Teacher Seo over all of them.
BTW, do we really need to give everyone these bad haircuts? Does this look anything like the character he's playing? Would you even know who it is if his name weren't on it?
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I think male sexuality is more object-oriented and shallow than female, but some of the "depth" in women is just for show. A boy is more likely to call someone unnattractive, whereas a girl will put a fig-leaf on it assigning the label "creepy" to give her shallowness the appearance of being personality-based, when the exact same behavior from a hot guy would romantic or appealing. That's a generalization, but it probably sounds familiar.
Actually, even the existence of ukes (and semes) is untrue to life. Top & bottom aren't personality types, they're sexual positions, and most couples do both, although usually there's at least one of the pair that has a marked preference one way or the other. But you would have no idea who does what just by looking at them, and the "man" of the house is just as likely to be the bottom.
The lack of lube is kind of funny, but since BLs won't show anything, it would look weird to be applying that while the camera is strictly waist-up. It's also kind of funny how nobody ever sweats and the sheets are always pristine afterwards, but I guess that's largely true of all drama everywhere. Maybe their pores are blocked by the inch of white makeup plastered over them.
He contacted me almost 20 years later and I blew him off because I was dealing with a lot (2008 - economic collapse in NYC which + depression), plus I'd already mourned his death. He got mad and I haven't heard from him since.
The "fake death" is also very BL. Hmm. I have to reconsider my ranting and raving against silly plot devices. It's funny how silly it sounds when I write it all out like that.
I loved him but wasn't "in love" with him (although I was certainly in lust with him - he was really athletic and handsome). The boy I was actually in love with had mutual feelings for me but couldn't deal with it so he married his girlfriend and enlisted in the Marines. The End. Unfortunately that is boring and entirely typical of the gay high school experience of my day. The girlfriend was evil and manipulative, though, so there's that.