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I can't remember the end of Calculating Love, so I might have given up on it because of the middle. I'll go back and watch the end based on your recommendation. So it better be good! :)

Something seems to have gone wrong - the first two eps were great. This one... yikes.

Did it ever have a shred of dignity? The main conflict was an evil ex gf kidnapping a dog and dealing with it pooping all the time.

I get the point about the Sky/Ace dynamic, but a different actor playing Ace could still give us something we like. Sometimes, if you really think about it, the chemistry/dynamic in a pair is often resting almost solely on one of them. Maybe it was Miko. I certainly didn't feel anything in My Toxic Lover, despite that Aki is more my "type" than Miko.

Don't get me wrong, I'm expecting a trainwreck - but hope springs eternal.

Be cautioned that he's hardly in Cheat - I completely forgot he was in it until you mentioned it just now. He may be more prominent in upcoming second season.

I absolutely loved Cheat - it's one of my favorites. It's completely insane and OTT, but in a good way, at least for me. If you don't like transgressive behavior it might not be for you, but the ending is so worth it all.

I hadn't finished watching the ep before I responded to youm and now I have. Ugh - it was really bad. Except the last scene, for reasons I doubt need to be elaborated upon.

They seem to have exchanged their smart social commentary for unfunny misogynist slapstick humor and really bad business meeting scenes.

Oh dear. That was really excruciating to get through. I love the two leads and I loved the first season. I don't know what's happened, but it's a big disappointment.

- This season is really shallow, and lacks the sharp exploration of the past and its lingering impact on society. That's a shame, and I don't see any setup that could lead to improvement. This has become a wholly conventional yet low-quality BL (except for the hotness of the leads, which is hard to beat).

- The technical problems are, if anything, worse than last season. This is disappointing. Many amateur production companies show fast improvement, but not here.

- Most of the run time is taken up by uninteresting scheming women - so we're combining misogyny with tedious and cringy. This was a problem with Inn Love too - female characters constantly drooling shamelessly over attractive men, to the point that porn film characters would say "back off - you're making me uncomfortable." It's really horrible to watch. It's in the workplace, which makes it even worse.

- Not a huge point, but BL writers and actors need to go see an actual workplace and attend a meeting. Either make it realistic, or go OTT soap opera drama, because this came off as children pretending to be grownups. But the acting was super-cringe too - including Enzo, who's usually good, but I've noticed a tendency to go OTT too often - but then with some of the scripts he's handed he probably needs that as a coping mechanism.

There is really nothing about this I'm interested in watching - it's more like something to endure. With one exception:

- Emil's sexual fantasies are what you'd expect from a 12 year old boy, but I'm fine with it as long as he continues to expose his oiled torso. Honestly, that was cute, but I suspect Benjo is going to break out laughing when he sees him. I certainly would. Before I chained him to the bed and called in sick for a week. I'm surprised the writers were aware that Deadpool lusts after Spiderman.

I was so frustrated in this ep that I skipped the ads, which I never do. If there's no improvement next ep I'll probably drop this, and by drop it I mean ff through everything where people are wearing shirts.

I noticed that about Nampu - I think his hair was styled in a much more flattering way. He looked really handsome.

When I started watching Season 1 I thought it was soft-core porn. For which I was totally onboard, because those two are hottt. But then it surprised me and got deep. So far Season 2 is a big disappointment as it seems to have regressed into a formulaic shallow BL, although the sexual roleplaying is certainly not something you see very often in this genre.

Maybe it will once again surprise us - after all, Emil seems to be enjoying his newfound class privilege, but he's not really a member of that class, and that could potentially lead to a hard fall... I'm not particularly hopeful any depth with materialize. But the boys are hot enough to keep me watching, or at least ff through everything else to get to the skin show sections. I'm not afraid to admit I'm shallow.

I really wanted to like this. There are some positives: 1. Jules Indiola is on my screen. 2. There is an attempt to be creative and try something new, which is always a plus.

If this were a play at a university theater, I would applaud it. As a BL, I don't understand what its audience is. That all love OK is a given to BL audiences, so this is preaching (a bit heavy-handedly) to the choir.

Second, the "gimmick" is playing the f/f and m/m storylines in parallel, e.g. the girls say something, the boys follow up, and you presume the same thing that you heard the girls say also passed between the
boys, etc. But sorry, men and women are not the same, and m/m love is not the same as f/f love. Love is love, but the ways it are expressed are conditioned and driven by biology and society. We celebrate diversity because inclusion of difference makes society richer and stronger. So to me, this series is part of a growing trend to erase diversity and pretend we're all the same. If we are, then what's the point of diversity? In that case, our slogan should be "embrace uniformity."

Smart writing would have done the parallel thing but would diverge, perhaps subtly at first, and eventually end up very different in substantial ways.

Now for the worst: There's a sex scene which was entirely on the girls, and then they only shift to the boys laying in bed post-sex. That is revolting, and is both objectification or women for the straight male eye and homophobic at the same time. Maybemale sponsors and producers pushed for that - I don't care. If you're telling us love is love, it's all the same, then why are you showcasing what's most desirable and acceptable to the non-queer male gaze?

Minor note: The idea that Jules Indiola would have to pay for sex under any conceivable circumstances is LOL funny. He would never even have to pay for a drink, let alone sex. Note also that not only did they not show any m/m intimacy, they even had sheets covering most of their torsos so that we didn't even get a glimps of abs - just to make sure that only women are objectified.

That scene in ITSAY was pefection - it pulled me right back to that age.

I'm totally in love. Forget the body (I'm not going to forget his body. Ever.), he's also a great singer - he's my favorite character currently airing. I hope he does more series.

OK, I know I whine a lot about being tired of high school stories, but at least the characters don't wear white shirts behind white subtitles.

OK, so this entire epside was taken up by peripheral and one-off female charaters flirting with or discussing how attractive the leads are - usually with them standing right there, and in one case a teacher was coming onto her student. That's it. Nothing at all happened other than that. We learned one fact about Nut and not one other single thing happened to advance the story. The only scene where boys talked was when everyone was scolding the gay guy for drunkenness, and that scene went on forever.

I checked and it was a bit over two minutes spent on Satha ordering coffee. Then it was another minute of the "I'm paying for this" stare-off.

And the sound effects - sexual harassment doesn't become funny because you use "boing!" and sheep-bleating sound effects.

I can't take any more of this. It's pointless and boring and is barely a BL.

Here we go with this again. It's more disrespectful to be rude to an actual human being than to critique a work of fiction. Criticism isn't disrespect, and if you can't recognize that, than I would respectfully suggest you stay away from discussion forums, where you will inevitably encounter people who have different opinions than you do.

I agree - I was really joking more than wanting anything else.

I do need to see the sexual tension, which is a critical element in the chemistry between the actors - but where it goes doesn't matter so much as long as it makes sense within the context of the story and is consistent with the characters.

For example, if they were in their 30's, their interaction at the end would have been ridiculous, but given the characters, even a kiss - really, even a hug - would have been too much and taken me out of the story. That amount of touch was perfect.

Yay, thank you so much!

It's true that the humor has landed better for me than usual for a Thai show.

Well, I'm white and lived in NYC, so curly hair doesn't do anything special for me, It was more like, "is there anyone here who does NOT have curly hair?"

I remember Calculating Love - I aslo lked the first couple of epsides and then it fell apart for me. But apparently practice makes perfect because they managed a complete and satisfying story in 17 minutes. More happened than in the entire series for Nitiman.

Does anyone know if this is really happening, or is it just wishful thinking?

How could you say something so evil? You're worse than Hitler!

Just kidding. I agree, the poster is bad. War doesn't even look good in it, and you have to work hard to accomplish that. I hope sulux x can enroll in a graphics class and maybe her next one will be better. :)

Thanks for the rec - I loved it. Definitely no white face paint there - very refreshing. And the dialogue was better than anything I've seen before in a Thai BL.