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It's especially frustrating that they had everything they needed for a really good series and they wasted it! Such a talented and attractive cast! In the case of Top Secret Together the cast is too big and there's not enough time to give them all the attention they need, but at least they're moving the storylines forward. But here there was plenty of time to do Keam & Ball and Turbo and Kaownah, but they didn't! They just had everyone run in circles for 10 eps!

Wow - I missed that or fogot about it - I'm going to go back and watch. Thanks for bringing it up! I think almost all of us missed that.

I agree. It's grown on me since the first ep, but it's hard to take too seriously a series that's based on a video game.

That's a good point, but one of them had his memory wiped and was still vomiting the next day, while the other was barely affected. People have different tolerances but but not THAT different. If felt out of place. But it's not even the extent of drunkeness, it's the unrealistic depiction that took me out of the story. Memory loss is a comedy trope, and it detracted from the realism of the story so far.

Again, it's not a huge thing - but it did take this ep a couple of notches down for me compared to the others. I still rate this as the best thing I'm watching at the moment.

I had an Asian BF - his tolerance was not great. He didn't suffer from day-long projectile vomiting and memory erasure, but he stayed drunk longer than me and got there more easily.

The Philippines are way ahead in both representation and innovation in BL - Thai BLs are slick and well-made, but very formulaic. There are times where I'm writing a comment and someone points out I'm talking about the wrong series because I've confused them. Filipino BLs also have more LGBTQ+ involvement in all aspects of the production and so they have a more realistic sensibility, whereas Thai BL is written by women and aimed at women. There's nothing wrong with that, but I'm a gay man, so it helps me connect more with the Filipino series as they feel much more true to life to me. I don't think the trans represenation is great in this particular series, but there have been really excellent characters in others, like Stranger's Kiss.

Aww, thanks! Your theory is more interesting and would lead to better drama - it would give Lukmo reason to be sympathetic and supportive.

Someday, somehow, there will be drinking in a BL and nobody will vomit all over the place. They had like four beers each. Barely enough for a buzz, let alone still throwing up the next day. The drunk scenes in general were not great. It's completely impossible to have sex and forget. Even today I can still remember sex from 20 years ago when I was totally blasted. I don't even know how I managed. To be fair we're not dealing with someone very experienced here, but still, he has a brain. And it's also more or less impossible to forget a shower. At least not unless you've had enough to border on needing hospitalization.

This was the least good episode so far, but it hasn't greatly diminished my love for this series. I love the pace, the economical writing, the intelligence, the characters and acting - it's my favorite at the moment.

What the f#$%ety f#$% was that? What the hell exactly was the "plan" the friends had? To continuously sabotage Jin & Bbomb until they liked each other? This was the stupidest and worst-written thing I've ever seen! Was there a plot? What was it?

I just watched Don't Say No, and more happened in a single 30-min episode than in this entire series, and it made way, way more sense! I thought at least the finale would tie everything together, but again, absolutely nothing happened! The relationship between Jin & Bbomb isn't just reset every episode, it's reset several times PER episode. And every single plot point, and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE is jealousy. The writer must be the most psychotically jealous human being that has ever lived because she's completely unable to conceive of any human emotion other than jealousy. Bbomb in this ep was jealous not only of Mark, who it turns out was just acting, for absolutely no purpose I can think of, but also jealous of his own cousin!

Do you remember where you've seen Jack before? Yeah, he was that smoking hot brooding guy in Manner of Death. And Mark? You know exactly where you've seen him. How did they take this many good actors and come up with a lifeless mess like this? (BTW, one thing this ep did change my mind about is Noh - I think he's wasted on this non-character, but he had some pretty powerful subtle moments.)

And is Bbomb the King of Thailand? How gigantic a palace does a 2-person family need? How does his mother even keep it clean?

TBH, I'm watching this because I'm obsessed with Aof. I do really like Aek & Simai and their silly sweaters, but it wouldn't be enough with out Aof.

I can't figure out what you mean by "pungent to ears" - pungent means a strong smell, so your phrasing sounds quite poetic (I plan to steal it), but very negative.

They've more or less decided to be brothers and family to each other. Lukmo is not sure he can handle it, but you can tell he'll go for it. Both are in agreement that romance is not possible because they're related - in fact Simai writes a song about how they can't be together because of their situation (he's a great singer). I suspect Simai is adopted, and that will be the solution. I'm basing that on the parents saying a couple of eps ago that there's something Simai is too young to be told, which I think is that he's adopted.

I'm trying to decide if that's weird. I guess it is, but I'm OK with it. Step brothers doesn't bother me as long as they didn't grow up together.

OK. This was better than I was expecting - it's unoriginal, but very well-executed in detail, from the production to the dialogue, plotting, and of course the acting, and I like how there's no agonizing over gender - Best's friends didn't even bother to guess any girl's names when they were figuring out who he likes. Even the tired trope of somehow being hit by a basketball (by people so far away that I was expecting to see Clark Kent on the court) was handled well and integrated into the plot in an intelligent way. And more happend in this 30 minute ep than is normal for four or five 45 minute eps in a "standard" BL series, and they did it without it seeming rushed.

But, I'm sorry, War is way too mature for the role. He's a great actor and he "acts" perfectly high school, but he's too manly and sexy, and it takes me out of the story, if for no reason that I have to keep reminding myself he's 27 and I'm not a pedophile for feeling what he's making me feel. It's especially obvious when he's around younger actors.

Even then, small complaint if I get to see War & Yin, but there's no reason for the story they're telling to be set in high school. Would it make a difference if it was the workplace, for example? Why not take advantage of the experience and looks of your actors? Y Destiny was a trainwreck, but I loved seeing everyone in high fashion - woudn't it be nice to see War in adult clothes, and a non-high-school or college setting for once? That haircut on Yin feels like a mutilation of a work of art.

Anyway, I'm definitely going to watch all of this, but it feels like a missed opportunity for something memorable and special (well, especially special).

I think War is way too sexy and manly for high school. His acting is good enough for it, but his body & everything it does is too adult, and it's especially obvious when he's around younger actors. When he was practicing the guitar, I wanted him to put pants on so I didn't have to chant "It's OK, he's 27. It's OK, he's 27".

There really isn't any reason for the story to be set in high school - it's a simple and well-written romance that could have been in any setting, so why not show off the beautiful men they cast instead of hiding their looks in high school uniforms and school boy haircuts? Look at a picture of Dew with "normal" hair can compare it to his Korean schoolboy look in this - it feels like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. Wouldn't it be nice to see them in fashionable adult outfits? If there was a positive to the Y Destiny trainwreck, it was the fashion design.

Anyway, it's not like I won't watch it - I went through the torture of Tossara for the occassional glimpses of War, and although it's not very original, the writing is much better than the usual and well, War & Dew.

I totally respect that, and you make a good point - even not great representation is better than remaining hidden, so I should be more appreciative. Progress is progress.

Also, these productions are likely struggling to obtain funding, and sponsors will be afraid of things that are different from past successful shows, so it's unrealistic to expect everything to be as progressive as in the West overnight. (And that's not even touching on how most of these societies used to be more accepting until Western imperialist powers imposed their Victorian morality on the rest of the world.)

The real couple are permanently on their maximum setting for "cutesy". Would anyone who has ever lived on this planet (or any other) find it cute that someone vomited all over their living room during a party?

Gift exchanges at work are way more fun than this - we usually give mean-spirited gifts that are really funny. Seriously, a $5 desk lamp? And this from someone who can afford a giant house with a living room the size of a football stadium.

I guess the "top secrets" are that Phob likes Eak and the brothers thing. Both & New Year's secret will be the revelation that they are malfunctioning robots stuck on the "act ovely cute in an an artificial way" setting, and the other couples are hiding anything that could possibly be interpreted as interesting.

They should have stuck to the main three + Lukmo. The other couples aren't really related to the main storylines. Maybe the producers demanded high school students and engineers so they threw in the other pairs. They also demanded an unnecessary damp-towel wipedown for the middle of a New Year's party.

That being said, with some judicious fast-fowarding, I am enjoying this series, because the main three are so f@#$ing cute. Simai killed me this ep.

Why does he have zero social media presence? Or am I just failing to find it?

They could have left out the entire gift giving scene and replaced it with the two scenes you mentioned felt like they were missing. The gift exchange was lame as f@#$. I've had more interesting ones at work.

Actually, like @ImHereForTheBL said, that was a crappy, depressing party.

OK, I like this show. But:

I know it's irrational, but Both & New Year annoy the f@$% out of me. I think I figured out what it is - they've always got 'cutesy' dialed up to 100. Sorry, but Jesus Christ would have been pissed if someone vomited all over his living room in the middle of a party, not smiled like it was cute with that"oh, those whacky kids" look. A Buddhist monk would have slapped Copy. Twice. And do you need a PA system for a party in your living room? Granted, their living room is the size of a hotel lobby, but still.

Can we talk about Simai this ep? The singing, and the watery eyes? That boy is talented. He really got to me.

But what was with the grand slo-mo entrance? He actually looked LESS good to me than usual, not more. I like his cute sweaters - the too-big overshirt made him look like a stereotype of a lesbian. Lukmo's fit and looked better to me.

Nampu is still creepy-overflirtatious to me, but I like how he and Copy interact off-camera - it's cute.

OMG, lol - I was totally thinking that about the party!