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You are definitely not the only one!

I was OK with Sky's serenade being bad because he's not supposed to be a musician. But the musicians were so, so bad that it was hard to believe they were hired. They could probably have gotten music majors from the nearest university who know what they're doing for free or at least really cheap.

I agree with your critique - this ep was a bit much for so soon in their relationship. I get that Sky has a big heart, but come on. Also, how did he get all that planned so fast, and what happened to Sun's wounds? Does he have regenerative superpowers? Although he needs to practice holding his breath because he drowned in 15 seconds.

I think Boat is carrying this series. I can't not watch it because of him.

That actually wasn't bad. When Sun had cotton candy on his lip, I was groaning out load, but then Sky didn't wipe it away and instead got a woodie watching Sun lick it off! I was amazed! Something different happened!

The last scene was unecessarily long - that was making my eyes roll, but that's a minor complaint.

Speaking of minor complaints, you would want to stab the violinists by the end of dinner. Violins are LOUD. Also, they were playing way out of tune. Hey, I have to find whatever uses I can for my music degree! Were the musicians also the assassins? That would explain why they were so awful. Sky's serenade was pretty bad too, but that was cute - his character is not supposed to be a professional musician.

I did think this ep was a bit much for so early in the series - it felt little out of nowhere. To be fair, it would't take long to fall in love with Sun, but the cotton candy was a pretty good metaphor.

Boat is an incredible find - he's one of the best natural actors in BL, and that body... yowza. But his eyes are so expressive - I can feel everything he's feeling. I've been criticizing Gun, and I still think he's not great, but really he's just mediocre - he seems worse due to the comparison with Boat.

I find it hard to believe Sun would have let Sky go off by himself like that after last time - but if he does it again, he's an idiot. Also, it's extremely hard to believe Sky would find anything embarassing, let alone having Sun watch him posing for photos.

I've been having that problem a lot lately. I'll try Brazil.

The issue isn't a 27-year old playing a high schooler, it's writing yet another high school story when you have two experienced actors who can play anything you want. Why not try something new?

Plus, the summary says three eps and the trailer looked like it was a parody, so I asked - I thought it might actually be a parody like A Man Who Defied the World of BL.

I agree with that analysis - actually, I thought there were 6 episodes, not 10, so I was thinking not enough had happened with half the series over, but with 10. the pacing is fine - generally. They still belabor some things, like when they were discussing showering in Ep 2.

One thing you can say for this company - they really know where to find good actors. No matter how awful the series is, the acting is great.

That's interesting - I didn't see the car thing that way, but that makes sense too.

I think you're right - judging by the irrational rage that they feel when someone they don't know on the internet has a different opinion than they do, I would guess very young age. I like it when people have different opinions because it expands my own perspective. In another part of this thread, someone pointed out some things I missed that are valuable insights and made me appreciate a few more aspects of the series.

COVID has made us all a little crazy though - the lack of interaction for a year is hard enough on someone with a longer perspective - if you're 13, that's something like 15% of the life you can remember. For me it's a much, much, much smaller percentage.

Throughout the entire COVID period, I went in to work (ironically at a Korean company), so my boss was 90% of my social life. When he went home to Korea, I had to speak for my group at his farewell and I couldn't, because I was crying so much - it's like the center of my life suddenly disappeared.

Got it. And as you know, I'm the opposite - I'm tired of the same thing over and over and would like writers to be original. They might actually be doing that here, but I'm skeptical. Hopefully I'll be surprised.

All his questions are related to his awkwardness ("why don't you like me?") which is reducing him to a one-note charicature. I would be happy if he doesn't change to become "normal", but he needs to have interests and passions, even if they're not expressed like everyone else might. How are they going to portray any heat between him and Shin Woo? They probably won't, because they've already written Tae into a corner.

On the other hand, I wasn't expecting Shin Woo to have that fast and convincing a turnaround, so maybe I'll be surprised again.

I hope everyone doesn't take advantage of Da Oh's nature - the problem he can run into is making conflicting commitments and disappointing everyone in the end.

Sorry if I came off thay way - my initial comment was disbelief that everyone likes this THAT much more than ITSAY. This to me is a solidly average production. Maybe somewhere between a 7.5 and an 8. But it's been hovering in the high 8s to 9.0.

I think there are three good things. Well, four if you include everyone's porcelain skin (actually, porcelain is embarassed by their skin), but keeping to substantial things - the production quality is very high. The inclusion of a socially awkward character that they've committed to is good, and the way they handled Shin Woo in a way that surprised me, i.e. explaining why he's being a dick while making him sympathetic - and it was 100% show and not tell, which is respecting the audience.

However - Tae's character has no other dimension but his awkwardness, so he's a caricature instead of a character. If they leave him awkward all the way through and people love him anyway, that would be unexpected and great. Most likely he'll be "cured" by the end, when he doesn't need fixing. As I mentioned, he really hasn't said or done anything that shows he has anything to offer but awkwardness. I'm sure you've met or are people like him - they are no less interesting and insighful as anyone else - but Tae offers nothing and hardly has any agency in the story.

This was the third ep and we've only gotten 1 character's motivations. Why is Tae doing anything? Why is everyone anxious to be his friend? I've been told it's because that's the object of the game this series is based on, but really, a game is the basis for this story? Fine, but you need to move beyond that and flesh out the characters.

I also feel zero chemistry between the leads, which is a recurrent problem in Korean BL except for Where Your Eyes Linger. That can be fixed, but because they've made Tae so dull, I'm not sure how.

I seem to be behind as I'm watching ep 3.

Anyway, I like that there's some attempt to be creative with shots, but gettting out of a car in a parking lot is not interesting enough to merit that much complexity, and I was getting airsick watching it. We could tone it down a little. Or maybe the resort is a sponsor and they had to do that. At 5:01, who's the creeper at the bottom of the stairs? That's a pretty bad production error! Whoever he is, he has lovely legs.

There are nice flourishes to the writing, like Drei thinking he was in a line when he was actually behind parked cars - that was cute and a touch of real life. There is also some stilted dialogue, like "I hope I find myself here... (etc.)".

While I'm glad they're not plastered in white face powder, the orange fake tans are not a great look.

All-in-all, so-so. There doesn't seem to be a point to this - and we need to get a sense of what that is fairly soon, I think.

See, that's why I'm here - sometimes I need people to point out these things to me. All good points!

That's not insightful though. It makes sense that he would ask that, but it's in effect defining him as awkward and making that something that he (and the writer) feels the need to improve, when he's fine how he is.

Insight would be if he said "I don't think you really hate me - you like me but it scares you for some reason." "Why do you hate me?" is curiosity or insecurity, not insight, even if the question is logical. "Why is the sky blue?" is a logical question, but it's not an insighful one. "Is the sky blue because of the composition of the atmosphere or is it the nature of human vision, or is it both?" is an insightful question.

Actually, the awkwardness is the thing that I DO like, especially because they've really committed to it, and didn't just throw glasses on a hot guy and tell us he's awkward when it's clear he's not.

I also like how efficiently they explained Shin Woo this ep and made me see him in a different light - that was well-done on every level.

What I'm having trouble with is that Tae has nothing else to his character, which makes him cartoonish. What are his interests? Socially inept people are still intelligent and can offer unique insights - where are his?

If this show surprises me and everyone else adjusts to his social space instead of him being "improved" to be conventional, then that would be special.

Thank you - I really appreciate the thoughtful response. I'm actually operating from the assumption that I'm wrong and just not seeing what's great about this, but almost nobody is able to react to someone they don't know on the internet not liking exactly what they do with anything but visceral rage.

My issue with the main character is not that he's awkward - it's actually nice to see a character that's actually awkward, and not a hot and charismatic person that we're meant to believe is awkward because he's wearing glasses. My problem is that there's nothing else to the character. He has no interests that I can see, and he never really says anything intelligent or insightful - that makes him a caricature rather than a character, who is defined by his awkwardness rather than being a person who happens to be awkward.

I did like that in this ep they were able to give us a reason why Shin Woo has been such a dick - it was well-written, made instant sense, and made me sympathize with him. I just wish we had better insight into the main character.

My problem with the way the character is written is not that he has trouble with social situations, which is charming and interesting, it's that he never has anything intelligent or insightful to say. A character can be both socially awkward and have some agency. He doesn't even have any apparent interests - he just exists.

If a character's arc is merely to find out why one other person doesn't like him an then acquire the person assigned to him by the plot as a boyfriend, that's not a lot to grab onto.

Your reply above is strikingly immature - "then get out of here" is childish, and comparing not liking how a character in a fictional story is written to prejudice is really silly.

I tried their gmail, but that's a great idea - I'll mesage them on twitter. Thanks!

I feel like I'm back at church after I stopped believing and am looking around at everyone and not understanding how they're so into this. Maybe they can see something I can't - but at least at church I understand why they feel what they do. Here I don't.

Answering someone who's expressing an opinion with a personal insult is a sure sign of a dumb person. WTK is badly written and he comes off as stupid to me.