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All his questions are related to his awkwardness ("why don't you like me?") which is reducing him to a one-note charicature. I would be happy if he doesn't change to become "normal", but he needs to have interests and passions, even if they're not expressed like everyone else might. How are they going to portray any heat between him and Shin Woo? They probably won't, because they've already written Tae into a corner.

On the other hand, I wasn't expecting Shin Woo to have that fast and convincing a turnaround, so maybe I'll be surprised again.

I hope everyone doesn't take advantage of Da Oh's nature - the problem he can run into is making conflicting commitments and disappointing everyone in the end.

Sorry if I came off thay way - my initial comment was disbelief that everyone likes this THAT much more than ITSAY. This to me is a solidly average production. Maybe somewhere between a 7.5 and an 8. But it's been hovering in the high 8s to 9.0.

I think there are three good things. Well, four if you include everyone's porcelain skin (actually, porcelain is embarassed by their skin), but keeping to substantial things - the production quality is very high. The inclusion of a socially awkward character that they've committed to is good, and the way they handled Shin Woo in a way that surprised me, i.e. explaining why he's being a dick while making him sympathetic - and it was 100% show and not tell, which is respecting the audience.

However - Tae's character has no other dimension but his awkwardness, so he's a caricature instead of a character. If they leave him awkward all the way through and people love him anyway, that would be unexpected and great. Most likely he'll be "cured" by the end, when he doesn't need fixing. As I mentioned, he really hasn't said or done anything that shows he has anything to offer but awkwardness. I'm sure you've met or are people like him - they are no less interesting and insighful as anyone else - but Tae offers nothing and hardly has any agency in the story.

This was the third ep and we've only gotten 1 character's motivations. Why is Tae doing anything? Why is everyone anxious to be his friend? I've been told it's because that's the object of the game this series is based on, but really, a game is the basis for this story? Fine, but you need to move beyond that and flesh out the characters.

I also feel zero chemistry between the leads, which is a recurrent problem in Korean BL except for Where Your Eyes Linger. That can be fixed, but because they've made Tae so dull, I'm not sure how.

I seem to be behind as I'm watching ep 3.

Anyway, I like that there's some attempt to be creative with shots, but gettting out of a car in a parking lot is not interesting enough to merit that much complexity, and I was getting airsick watching it. We could tone it down a little. Or maybe the resort is a sponsor and they had to do that. At 5:01, who's the creeper at the bottom of the stairs? That's a pretty bad production error! Whoever he is, he has lovely legs.

There are nice flourishes to the writing, like Drei thinking he was in a line when he was actually behind parked cars - that was cute and a touch of real life. There is also some stilted dialogue, like "I hope I find myself here... (etc.)".

While I'm glad they're not plastered in white face powder, the orange fake tans are not a great look.

All-in-all, so-so. There doesn't seem to be a point to this - and we need to get a sense of what that is fairly soon, I think.

See, that's why I'm here - sometimes I need people to point out these things to me. All good points!

That's not insightful though. It makes sense that he would ask that, but it's in effect defining him as awkward and making that something that he (and the writer) feels the need to improve, when he's fine how he is.

Insight would be if he said "I don't think you really hate me - you like me but it scares you for some reason." "Why do you hate me?" is curiosity or insecurity, not insight, even if the question is logical. "Why is the sky blue?" is a logical question, but it's not an insighful one. "Is the sky blue because of the composition of the atmosphere or is it the nature of human vision, or is it both?" is an insightful question.

Actually, the awkwardness is the thing that I DO like, especially because they've really committed to it, and didn't just throw glasses on a hot guy and tell us he's awkward when it's clear he's not.

I also like how efficiently they explained Shin Woo this ep and made me see him in a different light - that was well-done on every level.

What I'm having trouble with is that Tae has nothing else to his character, which makes him cartoonish. What are his interests? Socially inept people are still intelligent and can offer unique insights - where are his?

If this show surprises me and everyone else adjusts to his social space instead of him being "improved" to be conventional, then that would be special.

Thank you - I really appreciate the thoughtful response. I'm actually operating from the assumption that I'm wrong and just not seeing what's great about this, but almost nobody is able to react to someone they don't know on the internet not liking exactly what they do with anything but visceral rage.

My issue with the main character is not that he's awkward - it's actually nice to see a character that's actually awkward, and not a hot and charismatic person that we're meant to believe is awkward because he's wearing glasses. My problem is that there's nothing else to the character. He has no interests that I can see, and he never really says anything intelligent or insightful - that makes him a caricature rather than a character, who is defined by his awkwardness rather than being a person who happens to be awkward.

I did like that in this ep they were able to give us a reason why Shin Woo has been such a dick - it was well-written, made instant sense, and made me sympathize with him. I just wish we had better insight into the main character.

My problem with the way the character is written is not that he has trouble with social situations, which is charming and interesting, it's that he never has anything intelligent or insightful to say. A character can be both socially awkward and have some agency. He doesn't even have any apparent interests - he just exists.

If a character's arc is merely to find out why one other person doesn't like him an then acquire the person assigned to him by the plot as a boyfriend, that's not a lot to grab onto.

Your reply above is strikingly immature - "then get out of here" is childish, and comparing not liking how a character in a fictional story is written to prejudice is really silly.

I tried their gmail, but that's a great idea - I'll mesage them on twitter. Thanks!

I feel like I'm back at church after I stopped believing and am looking around at everyone and not understanding how they're so into this. Maybe they can see something I can't - but at least at church I understand why they feel what they do. Here I don't.

Answering someone who's expressing an opinion with a personal insult is a sure sign of a dumb person. WTK is badly written and he comes off as stupid to me.

I'm still not getting why everyone likes this so much. This episode was much more interesting than the previous two, but if it weren't listed on World of BL, I would forget this series exists. I don't think it's horrible, it just seems pointless and boring, and overly affected.

I don't feel any chemistry between the main pair at all, and I don't even get why everyone wants them to be together. It feels like the reason is "because they're the main pair." BL is starting to feel like a sporting event - you go, you cheer for the team you're supposed to like, you go home. Rinse and repeat.

Only one person below listed WHY they liked this - everyone else says "production values are high." I'd rather have lower production values and characters I care about. I am interested in the funny guy, who I think is played by someone charismatic, but that's about it.

Well, to be fair, a full season ought to have a more coherent storyline than a collection of scenes from a different show. But on the other hand, it's the same writer as TT2, so probably not.

I just watched this again and loved it just as much as the first time. I'm not sure what everyone means by "raw" or "amateurish" other than that the sound quality sometimes is not 100% there. The cinematography is excellent, and the editing and acting are first-rate.

It's certainly not formulaic and isn't full of tired tropes - and it uses real settings, and cast people for acting talent rather than looks, although Mon can compete with anyone in that department. The dialogue is natural and realistic.

I can't help but compare it to recent slick productions like Y Destiny... I guess if that's your thing, you probably won't like this. There are no accidental kisses, nobody confusing sexual harassment with flirting, and a really sweet romance starting in a natural way.

OK, so it was that bad. It had to be a COVID issue, right? This production crew has put out some great stuff - I can't believe this could be so awful without a reason.

So recommendation: Forget the main couple, and most of the side couples. Just watch the swimming couple and the tutor couple - those are really wonderful and I wish the series had been about them.

If I were to guess, I'd say COVID interfered with the production and they were unable to do the dialogue in a lot of scenes. Either that or the director is totally incompetent, but based on his other stuff I don't think that's the case. But this is really bad. There are so many good actors in this - something has gone terribly wrong.

The only negative thing I can say about Country Boy is that it was only two episodes. It's hard to believe it was directed by the same person that drove this trainwreck. He's good at casting, though, for sure.

Have you seen My Friendship with Mon and Oak? If you haven't, find the cut scenes.

I was starting to feel like I was the only person watching the actual episode and everyone else had come from an alternate dimension where this show was actually good.

I wanted Leo to take that weird chain on Fiat's shirt and twisted it around his neck for 5-6 minutes. He could probably throw the body in a random closet in the gigantic palace he lives in and nobody would ever find it. How does he keep that place clean with no staff? Is he the king? I don't even think the king has a palace that big.

For me, this is poorly written and the interaction between the characters makes no sense. I can see people who haven't known each other long having this severe a failure of communication, but it's not easy to live with someone for ten years and be totally in love with each other without either noticing it or ever bringing it up on conversation. Also, Leo could have anyone. ANYONE he wants - why this sniveling little crybaby brat?

There aren't any of the usual Mame consent issues that bother a lot of people, but there is a LOT of crying for grown men and a lot of infantilization.

How many times does one person need to be carried bridal-style in a day? Do you know how hard that is? A really thin woman is barely manageable for about 10 meters, let alone carrying a tall and fairly muscular man up a staircase. In this series, an athletic teenager can't descend four stairs without injuring himself, but nobody ever throws out their back trying to carry someone for a kilometer like that.

The only thing that (barely) got me through it is Leo is really, really hot. I find it a little implausible that two people could be head-over-heels in love with each other for each other for TEN YEARS and it never came up in conversation or they didn't notice.

For me, this was a checklist of tropes - but I seem to be in somewhat of a minority, so maybe you should check it out and see what you think.

LOL, that is 100% true. Maybe even more so for IPYTM - that was one of the most stressful viewing experiences I've ever had.

This show is a zany comedy - and while there is a huge amount of secondary embarassment, it's not the same kind of emotional stress as something like ITSAY that you get invested in on an emontional level.