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It's been a theme that the teachers want people getting into med school because it makes them and the school look better. Last ep Prab issues a classic burn to her about that.

He's actually not a teacher - he's an intern. That doesn't make it all that much better, but it's a little better.

Note: Proofreeding this, it sound critical of you, but I'm actually agreeing with you and looking for an explanation for why we're watching this - it's thinking out loud.

I don't think Chon's change is sudden, is it? It took him a while to warm up to Prab and the tutor shows him zero interest. I'm not sure Chon is very clear about how he feels about anything - he seems to hero-worship older guys - is he in love with them, or does he just admire them and want to be like them? Also, Prab is relentlessly sweet, sensitive, loving and caring to him - there would have to be something seriously wrong with Chon to not be affected by that.

I don't think the writing is going to win any awards, but how is it like Tonhon Chonlatee, which was deeply offensive and homophobic? On this show, every single male character except Chon's father is gay (and until I have proof otherwise, I assume Prab's mother is his beard - they're just friends, lol). I'm not exaggerating, every single one. There had been no whiff of homophobia - everyone takes it for granted that everyone else is gay and it is just not a subject of conversation. Boys even tease their friends over their crushes on guys exactly the same way boys tease other boys about girl crushes - I don't think anyone's even mentioned pursuing a girl. No "I'm not gay, I only like__________", No "But we can't, we're both guys!" . I think that's actually one of the charms of the series - no relegating trans characters to offensive stereotypes for "comic" relief, screeching and pawing at every half-attractive straight boy, no toxic gf character in the way - all jealously is mild and normal, and over other guys, no consent problems, no rapes - I really don't see the similarity. That's not to say this is a great series - it's actually kind of bad. But the innocence, charm, and heart are really appealing to me.

Yes, that's exactly it. It has a certain something. It's so f#$%ing cute - I would normally have no patience for that, but it takes f#$%ing cute to a whole new level. The acting isn't good, but it's not terrible, either - and it's consistent and in character, which helps. Everything is "not very good", but nothing is terrible. Also, I'm usually a bit put off when nobody will call themselves gay, but in the case of this show, you would have to come out as straight, not gay. EVERYONE is gay, so it can go unsaid. Prab's mother is probably spending all her time at the hospital chasing male nurses off her husband, but I'll bet he's banging them by the dozen whenever she falls asleep or goes to the bathroom.

LOL - you're probably right. But he has a nice smile, so I'm OK with it. Not as angelic as Chon's smile, but still nice.

I agree with you about all that except the writing, which I thought was solidly "meh". They're luckly they have someone like Earth to distract attention from the nonsensical plot. "Promise me you'll live your life on your own terms. As long as it's not here and you do only what your father wants."

I would have loved that so much.

I'm usually more in synch with you, but I'm kind of meh about this. The acting is spectacular, but the writing is too lazy for me to really put this in the top tier. I'm glad they hand-waved away everthing that happened last episode and got back to organic drama, but the "be cruel to push him away for his own good" trope ruins it for me.

Then the "Promise me youll live your life only on your own terms. Just don't do it here." And why can't he work there and commute back to Bangkok to spend time with his parents? The first 7 episodes of this were some of the best drama I've seen, but the GMMTV "We don't know how to end this" curse hasn't been exorcised yet.

Why didn't they just have him grow a beard? That was really embarassing. I'm sure his natural beard is a lot thinner and more scraggly than that, but who cares? There's no way to make him not-hot. They could die his hair pink and tie it with a bow and he's still look sexy. OK, that might be overkill. but you know what I'm saying.

Also, he could just commute to work - stay there all week and go visit the parents on weekends. But that probably makes too much sense.

Sigh. This was definitely better than last week, which they basically hand-waved away. No need to address that the whole village rejected Tian, or that Doctor Nam committed several crimes and ethniclal violations, or that Pha was severely wounded and was fine like two days later (my theory is that someone patted him gently with a washcloth). Silly, but I was OK with it because I was happy to just forget last week happened.

But enough with the "be cruel to someone to push them away for their own good" trope. It's stupid, lazy writing, beyond tired, and wrong. You don't get to decided what's best for someone else, and Earth is interfering in a complicated relationship that he doesn't understand.

But the main problem is logical. We've already scene Pha go to Bangkok for funeral & grave visits for a mere friend. Is there any reason why a spectacularly rich person can't work in the village and go to Bangkok on weekends? He could probably even get his own helicopter to pick him up at his house and drop him off at his parents'. The village isn't in Saskatchewan, it's an hour flight away. This feels like it was written 100 years ago.

Probably every guy watching this was wincing in the shaving scene. It's a miracle Chief didn't need to go back to the hospital for a few more transfusions with someone whacking at his face with a razor like that, but the show gets points for having a shaving scene where nobody got cut - a true rarity.

With a good script and a competent production crew, this could have been a top-tier series. I'm not sure there are any actors in BL as good as Kaleb, who is just amazing - the anger when talking to his uncle was so spot-on, and he can switch from defiance to despair in a heartbeat and make it effortless and natural. But how can the sound be this bad? I can understand how one day's worth of footage can have a problem, but the entire series has the same distortion. It's baffling.

Also, they need to invest in air-conditioning, because I'm pretty sure angels aren't supposed to sweat that much.

Another frustrating episode with stellar acting and bad everything else. There was a shot in Damon's bedroom that was quite beautiful, but I'm fairly sure it was by accident.

The themes are worthy, but whoever wrote the dialog really needs to learn when to stop, instead of belaboring points and going around in circles. It was very strange to have the characters discuss Angelo's past - is he an angel, or not? Angels aren't human - they're not ghosts! If you're exploring faith, let's not make stuff up. If there was a narrative purpose to it, I could accept it, but it sounded like the writer was bitter about a closeted ex and had to throw that in here - it's just not relevant to Damon's story because he's not closeted. And it's not like the closet is underrepresented in BL...

I noticed the clamdiggers for sure - I just didn't think we'd go back to pastels and slacks hiked up to our navels. At least now they have those hidden socks you can wear - in the actual 80s it was just feet in leather.

Ep 8 didn't depress me becasue it was so ridiculous. Fortunately they've pretended it didn't happen this ep. Now they've moved on to a different manufactured crisis caused by an anothre implusible failure of communication. At least this time it's only one-way.

Someone must have had the magic towel. The one that you can just dab on someone and it cures anything, Chills, fever, cancer, gunshot wounds... just get the towel out and no worries.

Loose drapey clothing makes me look fat. :( Although Tum looked damn fine in that scene.

Last week they showed up just before the new ep hit. At least they don't label them Eng Sub when they're not, like Meet My Angel does. I'm not really bothered by waiting, it's just really irregular and I'm a creature of habit with too little to do because of COVID, so my life revolves around the BL schedule. DON'T BOTHER ME ON FRIDAYS.

Question: Does anyone know Thai? Are Sib's lines all double-entendres in the original? It seems like it in the subtitles, but it's not always clear - like "If I help you you'll finish early" or "if you're not relaxed, it will hurt" (While he's wearing a muscle tee that reads "Eat Me".)

Second Question: Are 80s clothes really in right now? I'm getting flashbacks from watching these Thai shows. That outfit Tum tried on in Ep 3 (loose-fitting black shirt white slacks) was pure 1980s. Why do things always come back after I've gotten rid of the originals? I had tons of clothes that would be vintage gold now. I did find sneakers from that era that everyone loves, but the soles got hard and slippery. But the risk of broken neck is worth all the compliments.

I watched that scene again because I sort of remembered the scene you mentioned, but it seems to me that Aey is hurt that Sib is so short with him, and he asks Gene about his closeness to Sib, but he couches it in terms of being friends - it seems to me that he does not know what's going on, has an inkling, and is trying to find out.

On the other hand, Gene watches Aey's face in the rear-view mirror, and from his face it looks like he can tell Aey likes Sib, so in away, it's the opposite of what you're saying - if anything, it's Gene that knows Aey likes Sib, not the other way around, which to me doesn't reflect well on Gene. It doesn't really reflect poorly either because he's such a constipated emotional idiot, so there's no malice intended.

That scene is right after Tum in the changing room so I might need a cold bath now.

I guess I'm a little sensitive to blanket statements about what is morally right and wrong, rather than looking at each individual situation. I'm gay, and homophobia is basically people making a blanket assumption that same-sex relations are self-evidently morally wrong. But it's not just that - it's that the same people who are condemning step-sibling storylines don't have any problem with other morally questionable things, and even get angry when you point them out. If someone doesn't like a particular type of story, that's perfectly fine - we all have our tastes - but they shouldn't get preachy, or in other worlds, just because something isn't to your taste doesn't mean it's inherently morally wrong.

So I would rather people do what you did, which is spell out what is wrong with a specific situation - in the case of History the brothers grew up for a considerable time together, there is a very large age & authority gap, along with the mental health issues of the younger brother which makes it a questionable situation - but on the other hand, older bro hasn't done anything yet except treat his brother with patience and compassion, so there's really nothing morally objectionable about this to me based on their relationship.

In the case of Brothers, if they get together and then break up, it could complicate family life, so I can see objections, but not moral objections. Maybe it's a bad idea, but I can't see how anyone would find it disgusting or creepy.

Any type of relationship can be toxic, and any type of relationship can be healthy and loving.

Yes, it seems people have fairly strong feelings about this series. What I never understand is how people can take it personally when I have a different opinion than they do. Differences of opinion make the conversation more interesting, and I can often learn something from someone else's perspective, because I can miss things or misunderstand things.

Also, there are people here who are native speakers here who can clear up my misunderstandings based on subtitles that might have mistranslated something.

Anyway, I appreciate the nice, calm discussion!