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Can you give me a reason to hate him? He has done absolutely zero wrong.

My theory is that everyone hates him because he's standing in the formulaic villain spot. Anything that's a potential threat to the main ship is automatically and by definition evil, even if they're a much more interesting and sympathetic character than the main pair and played by a way better actor.

He gets hate because everyone is used to the standard BL formula which paints him as the villain, even though he's never done anything even slightly bad. The worst you can say about him is that he is maintaining unrealistic hope that Sib will ever return his affections. For me, I would go so far as to say that he's the only sympathetic character in the series. Well, Tum & Tiffy are too, but they're so minor and off in their own story.

That muscle-outlining sweater did him lots of favors, but it would do me even more favors if he'd shed it, I must agree.

Well it doesn't look like Mork is homophobic... and I don't think he understood the context of the dinner - it didn't look like Earth had filled him in. I didn't get a strong feeling for him in this ep except that I would like him to be strongly feeling me, if you know what I mean.

I took that as a commentary on BL in general, but they always seem to skirt around being a satire but never go far enough.

What did Aey do that made you think he likes drama? He was in terrible pain this entire episode, and all her really wanted was to go somewhere quiet and safe an cry into a friend's lap. That seems like the opposite of what you said. Am I missing something?

What does "sus" mean?

Wow, that is the opposite of how it struck me. I thought Aey was so much stronger in acting than everyone else's that if felt like nobody else was acting but just reading lines.

He suspects Sib doesn't like him back, he doesn't know. And crushes are like that. You don't give up hope until you know for sure. Gene is a jerk for not being honest, although Gene is such a mess of a person and so immature that I don't really blame him.

I feel like there's something wrong with me, because I really want to like this, but I don't. I even fell asleep twice during this.

Part of the problem is that the main relationship is so static and uninteresting, but I'm also confused as to what this is about. Maybe it's a casting problem? Bruce just obliterates everyone else in acting ability - it's not even close. It's to the point that he's in one series, and everyone else is in a different, lesser one. Nothing else matters but Aey - it's all just cartoonish other than him.

Also has Mork been in this until now? Good God. I thought my eyeballs would melt out of my head - has the camera actually setting on that face before? Can we have him in this a LOT more?

Also, I didn't understand why there was a very long scene of Aey trying snacks - was that supposed to be a commentary on product placement? And what was with the discussion of facial products that was also very long but didn't show any actual products?

It feels like this wants to be a clever critique of BL but also wants to be a very conventional BL, and there's no chemistry between the main pair, which I assume is intentional for some reason, because I've seen Kao be compelling before.

Count me confused. And bored (except for Aey).

It wouldn't have been easy for his sister or Mork to defend him - but his mother is a horrible person for not stopping it.

A transgressive storyline is perfectly fine, if it's treated as transgressive and not normalized. You don't get to rape someone and then have a happily ever after. If that's your thing, then you need to get it from something that's not children's programming - there's a time and place. It's much different for an adult to be reading a story including something transgressive (I've written some of these myself!) and including it in a visual medium that's marketed at 13-year olds.

Also, I'd like you to think about what you said about me looking for representation in the wrong place - what you're essentially saying is that BL is exclusionary. for (straight) women only, and inherently exploitative. Do you think mainstream programming should have all women engaged in lesbian sex for the enjoyment of straight men? Because what you wrote is no different. I'm not upset with you, but I think you might be taking a few things for granted and not distinguishing between a BL fanfic culture and mainstream broadcasting. I myself have written transgressive m/m fic for the reading pleasure of women - but I would absolutely not write a script for a broadcast BL in the same way.

Just to make sure it's understood, I want less trans characters, but I want the Trans characters that are included to be substantial and 3D. It does nothing for the trans community to have 5 cartoonish, ridiculous, predatory, loud, stereotyped trans characters - but to have one Miray or Jennie in 3WillBFree is a powerful statement. It doesn't even have to be fewer trans characters - it can be more. But it has to be characters, and not cartoons, and real people, not the exploitation of harmful stereotypes for pathetic and unfunny comic relief.

While I think serious trans characters need more representation, I would prefer no trans characters than to have any that are offensive, regressive, and harmful to the perception of the trans community. You can still have a trans character be funny - they just can't be pathetic predators who have nothing to do but screech and sexually assault pretty boys. Trans clowns are a staple of BL and it needs to stop. I won't even watch a show that contains a negative depiction. As if Trans people don't have enough problems with societal oppression, how can we tolerate it in a genre that's supposed to be affirming?

Same with effeminate gay characters. The straight-acting fetishism of BL is harmful and homophobic. At least we're slowly moving away from the main characters actually being straight.

Yes, I think I agree - I've defended the length of You Make me Dance, but I think just 20 minutes more run time could probably have greatly improved it by filling in the gaps and smoothing plot transitions.

I liked the first ep of Lovely Writer, then it moved away from the critique of the darker side of the BL industry and started to get irritating, except for that really layered voiceover scene, then ep 3 I hated, four liked better, and maybe 5 will be where I'm totally converted.

Brothers is conventional, but most BL is conventional - it has a quality to it that others don't. Prab is so relentlessly kind and caring while still being a vulnerable and clueless teen, and Chon is wonderfully socially awkward and geeky - the show is just so cute I can't deal with it. Plus, I'm not sure we've ever had one where every single boy in school (and the entire faculty) is gay.

And for History, I love the brothers storyline. People go nuts over the "incest", but it's not really, and who cares if it is? You can't say love is love is love if you are going to draw your own arbitrary lines. Sometimes a sibling relationship might be questionable or wrong, and sometimes a relationship between strangers might be questionable or wrong. Neither is inherently wrong, it's all about the individual situation. What's the difference between that and saying "all gay relationships are inherently wrong"? Sorry, it's a pet peeve. So many people that issue blanket condemnations of the step-brother trope don't seem to mind some other really morally questionable things that are staples of BL.

I'm kind of seeing Tae as a top, but one of the things I like about this show is that they haven't shoehorned the characters into top/bottom seme/uke roles and just let them be guys. In any case, whoever's in the middle is going to be a happy camper!

This was not very good in any regard, but it had a certain heart to it and it was charming that the sponsors were mini-marts - it give it a sense of community effort.

I got a sense that there's a story they want to tell although it wasn't clear what that is yet - I presume it has to do with class difference and poverty - there's not too much room in this space at the moment with both Padayon and Stranger's Kiss, both of which are more technically able productions. I would advise better editing and thought about content - for example it's not to interesting to watch people plan the logistics of picking someone up for a ride. which consumed nearly half this episode.

The actor playing Sam stood out for his fairly natural delivery, and his cubicle was charming.

There was a shower scene that was supposed to be sexy, but the shower stall itself was so gross I too worried about what fungal infections the actor was going to get to think about much else.

Anyway, I will continue to watch - I'm hoping some of the production issues improve, but I will say they did fairly well with the sound - there are higher-budget productions that are much inferior in this regard, so kudos for that.

I do know what you mean. Although we're dealing with a culture that prefers to have characters raped than show them seeking and enjoying bottoming, so I'm not sure the underlying values system is entirely compatible with progressive attitudes towards gender and sexuality.

Also, what does Star Trek have to do with any of this? (That's an attempt at humor based on the typo in your first sentence.)

Under 18 is fine, but the other actor also has to be over 18. Under 18 and over 18 are not legal. Plus, if you're until 18 your parents still have legal control - a lot of conservative parents are probably not on board with their sons having gay sex on TV.

I don't think it's easy to predict where you'll see a lot of good making out or sex. I really, really didn't expect Tae to have a one-nighter, and I didn't expect a serious make-out scene in You Make Me Dance given Korean homophobia-on-steroids. And I expected more than high-5 on 2Gether after all the "kiss you until you drop" talk. And Earth and Mix better get naked on 1,000 Stars or I'm going to start a letter-writing campaign. The Philippines is winning in this category, IMO, but the creative staffs and writers are more heavily male and LGBTQ+