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No, he's manipulative and smart. You should watch it!

Yes, I know. But it's a little harder to get to 30 living in a major urban area of a fairly tolerant society working in the gayest profession that exists and not have an inkling.

Yes, I don't mind him pursuing a woman per se, it's just that that's all there was. There needs to be some hint of BL other than a crazy stalker, who was only in it for 20 seconds. But you're right, it's the writing. It's just not funny to me, and it needs to be or there's really nothing here.

Yes, but I give opinions about shows rather than judging other people. You might try that. If you haven't seen my positive comments it must be because you only like shows that I think are bad, because there are many airing that I really like and I am fairly vocal about them.

What about the office sexual harassment?

I'm not a grumpy, bitter queen (I'm take medication for that) and I didn't find it the slightest bit funny either.

There I disagree with you. WBL2 would have been great if it had just been a fresh start with new characters, but as a continuation of WBL1 it's so implausible that it ruins it for me, with the characters behaving so far out of character that I've lost interest. But it is well-written other than the characters being totally wrong and very, very well-produced.

I would say "devolving", but yes, at least they're trying new setups. although unlike Trapped, this is about as original as engineering school.

Everyone but me seems to like Mu Ren - I found him more annoying than Li Chen. But I'm shallow and the actor playing Li Chen is really attractive even if his character is awful. But Mu Ren seemed like a carboard cutout and (to me) aggressively unattractive but that we're told is the most beautiful man on earth.

Maybe that explains how he got inside? Or do people in urban areas of Taiwan leave their doors unlocked?

Especially not in the workplace where if you're really lucky, you'll only get a written final warning from HR.

Crazy Fujoshis are the new engineering students. BL writers are the most imitative I've ever seen, and once a trope catches on, no matter how stupid or annoying *cough*accidental kiss*cough*, it's like a ravenous dog with a juicy bone - you have to wait 12 years for the dog to just die.

The acting is either too big or not big enough. There's nothing worse than trying to go OTT and not quite making it. YYY made it. This didn't. Also, YYY had serious themes. And real heart. This doesn't.

I'm thinking of holding a seminar for BL writers about what a workplace is really like. But just as a teaser, it's not about 24/7 sexual harassment and people doing everything with actual paper and folders full of files. At least it hasn't been since the early 1980s.

That had not occurred to me, and that would be really interesting, but I think you may be overestimating this production.

I also really didn't like Mu Ren - he just seems like a Japanese cartoon character tossed onto the screen without bothering to humanize him. An expressionless character can work in manga or a written format, but it's too cold for live action. Li Chen is annoying, but partly because the entire episode of this "BL" centers around him avidly pursing a woman.

This was really awful - what a waste, and what a disappointment. I think you might be right - History has run out of steam. This doesn't even have the production quality that earlier History series had.

YYY had a lot of deeper messages about a lot of things - that's a big difference between something like that and this. Also, YYY was completely over-the-top in a delightful way while this is shallow and half-assed about being a cartoon. Also, YYY was a BL, whereas this was 45 minutes of a man pursuing a woman with only a creepy stalker providing actual BL content.

And I'm not even upset about the stalker - the only thing that bothered me about that was how is it possible for someone not to wake up two minutes after falling asleep with someone molesting you, breathing onto your face and speaking in a conversational voice two inches from your head?

I hated this, and I was prepared to love it as much as I have most of the previous History series.

It's the opposite of that. I was excited about this based on all the past History series and really, really wanted to like it, but it felt like torture to sit through it. I don't care about the stalker trope, although it was poorly executed here.

I'm fine with a sitcom style, but it still has to have characters that aren't lame attempts to take stock manga archetypes and throw them onto a screen without translating them into realized human live-action characters, it has to be sharply written (or alternatively totally over-the-top like YYY, which incidentally, does have deeper underlying meaning). It also has to be funny. The only thing I found funny was when Mu Ren was trying to kick Li Chen off the balcony, which actually was a good translation of a manga moment into live action .

Also, I don't want to spend 45 minutes in a "BL" watching a man pursue a woman.

I think maybe you might consider that people just have different opinions and tastes than you do and that it's possible to dislike something - intensely - based on its own merits and not some strange bias. I'm not even clear what bias anyone would have coming into this.

And I'm pretty sure 99% of the people here are more than happy, even desperate, for something other than engineering students and pink shirts - it's not that they're trying something new, it's that it's awful.

Trapped was something new, and I'll bet almost every single person on here loved that - so it seems to me that you're the one coming in with preconceived biases about the rest of us.

i didn't see MODC, but Trapped is one of my favorite BLs, and almost all the others have been really good. But I loathed this and can't make myself sit through another episode of it. It has nothing going for it except two of the three mains are cute.

The first 60 seconds had me wanting to give up. Did History get a whole new production company? Who wrote this? These can't be the people that gave us Trapped and Crossing the Line, can they?

Teng Mu Ren and Xiao Li Chen are just a bad manga characters who they didn't bother to make human - when will BL makers realize that live-action is not manga or novels? It doesn't work to literally translate from one to the other.

The whole first episode of a "BL" was a man pursuing a woman, and they've explicitly told us these are guys in their late 20s, so is it credible for them to be that clueless about their own sexuality?

This is hard pass for me - it felt like torture watching it - I only slogged through it to give it a fair chance. I'm so disappointed - even History series that I didn't like very much were high-quality and generally well-written and acted - this didn't have anything going for it - even the costume design was poor. They managed to make two beautiful men and whatever that stick creature is supposed to be look frumpy. Ugh.

Go ask Bromance 2. Maybe he faked his death for no apparent reason.