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I don't think that's the problem - it's everything he was saying, like "they don't have wombs so they're disqualified", or putting that much sustained and incredibly awkward pressure on Ton in public, more or less putting him on sale. Wanting grandkids is normal. Wanting them as commodities, and being more concerned about your own selfish interests and not the happiness of your children is not so fine.

Even all that is OK from a plot perspective, but the length of that scene and how unpleasant to watch - as opposed to merely boring - is not what people really want to sit through for their light entertainment.

Oh. I didn't notice that. That does push if up a notch for sure.

And the bullying? My objection isn't just that he did it, it's that the writer portrayed it as romantic.

A man in his 20s in university who grew up wealthy in a sophisticated worldly urban center can't imagine two guys together?

That being said, it could have been funny if he were just clueless. I'm curious how you'll react to Ep 4's bullying and extremely uncomfortable party scene.

Homophobia in characters is fine - it's the homophobia of the series itself that's the issue.

I could understand that POV until ep 4 (after you wrote this) which featured violent homophobic bullying which was positioned as "romantic." We aren't judging Ton, who doesn't exist, we're judging whoever wrote this awful thing.

Two men simultaneously dating a woman - on the same date - is inherently creepy. Fake-doing it because you're afraid of being beaten by your homophobic housemate is even more creepy.

Also, it doesn't matter if she proposed it - they are responsible for their own choices.

I said that about the first episode and got gang-piled by hostile fans. This episode started out funny, and somehow ended up being one of the most unpleasant things I've ever watched. I've seen things that were far more disturbing, but they served an important role in delivering the message of the work. Like Nazi concentration camp scenes to portray the horror of the Holocaust. This is the equivalent of watching the concentration camp footage as entertainment in itself. Albeit, obviously, a few notches lower than that.

Yes - but not enough to counteract the drain on my soul of everything else.

It would have been funny and charming if he were just totally clueless, but he's a horrible person. Not really understanding homosexuality is one thing, but violent bullying is quite another - which was painted as romantic. Just the fact that his roommates are afraid of him tells you everything you need to know. And I don't care if he has some sort of epiphany. He's in his 20s. That might work for a 14-year old, but not a college senior.

You are not alone. The episode started out funny and cute, and ended up horrifying. I often use the word "trainwreck", but this is more like one of those terrible traffic accidents that you pass and can't help look at, but then feel sickened by what you saw.

Even the actors were visibly uncomfortable performing that scene.

It's beyond awful. In fact, it's hard to believe whoever wrote this is not an awful person. They actually framed violent bullying as "romantic". That scene probably triggered a lot of people who experienced relentless bullying like that in school for just being who they are. Most Thai BLs are written by women, but this feels like it was written by a frat boy.

I read dad as gay. He likes showtunes and surrounds himself with ladyboys. And yes, sigh, I know that doesn't necessarily make someone gay, but I think that's what they were going for.

Tickling generally doesn't qualify as sexual assault. It's "merely" assault & battery. Also, I think there's a looonnnngggg list of things about this series that are more objectionable than that.

OK, but dad is into showtunes and has ladyboy attendants, brother-in-law is disinterested in sex with his wife... are you seeing a pattern here? I'll bet everybody is gay.

It is - the ending said "End of Book I". I would assume you can't have a book 1 unless you at least have a book 2...

I think that's only meant to be the first part of a longer story - if it isn't, it was pleasant to watch but maybe not too memorable. But if it is, then I'd like to see where it goes.

Is there a part missing? 16 (3/3) does not seem to follow 16 (2/3). I don't understand what happened.

OMG. I had low expectations of this, but that was amazing. Tommy was brilliant, and this time Jimmy was a match for him - what an improvement in acting! Tommy sure sweats a lot, but wearing those tight clothes (which I seriously appreciate) in hot & humid weather will do that.

That was bad, but in the best way, if that makes sense. I loved it and am hooked. You have to watch this without taking it too seriously in order to enjoy it, I think. The acting was OK, except the mistress, but I doubt we'll need to worry about THAT for long.