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As I understood it is based on real https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202201/1245583.shtml


Closest example of real cases in west, I could think of, would be in wild running from the bear and tripping your friend that it will catch him/her instead of you. But it is far from close example. Here was not proved any premeditated or intentional action that would lead to death of roommate.

1. Ex-boyfriend did not threaten to kill her friend, he only threatened to kill her. She has no reason to believe that he would kill roommate during conflict even if she saw that he has knife. He has no motive to kill her friend.
2. There is no timing of threat e.x. Today I will kill you. Video of her being happy before murder does not prove anything. Ex-boyfirend could come today or any other day or never.
3, Conversation with third party does not prove anything. Maybe victim knew possible threat but chose to not disclose to real life mom/series husband. And victims asking how did you got address does not mean anything. Maybe she wanted to know and prevent to knowing him again after they will relocate, Even if victim did not know of possible threat does it change from law perspective?
4. Ex-boyfriend just murdered roommate and then chose just to leave?? Not waiting till she opens the door to check on friend or did not even tried to break through the door? It is reasonable to believe that boyfriend waits to kill his girlfriend so she chose to not open the door.

They only proved that she lied during testimony. That's it. There is no law if you lie that you automatically lose the case.

The only thing I can think of, that there are several serious political motivations to judge this case as it happened in Japan, also China wants.to shift culture that people would help each other, . . to appease public... etc.

As European last case about ex-boyfriend murdering roommate seems total nonsense. Can someone explain reasoning behind it? It seems like politically motivated resonance case ruling rather than law based.

My reasoning below:

Does it explain why ML does not want kids for his future marriage? I watched first half and do not know whether to continue.

Amazing! One of the best written Chinese dramas ever. Script is so funny. It was long time I had such good laugh.

Though it is a pity that it had offscreen issues and this drama could not reach it's full potential. It was minor inconvenience for me as drama is more important than just look at pretty faces. Abrupt ending does not concern because pretty much everything is solved.

This drama deserves remake. Script is too good to be left at this.

If you look back to the first episode cheating does not make sense. No characters where built for this, they talk and behave like this did not happen. If cheating does not happen, just simple break-up story wise it would make more sense. Probably writers wanted cheap "bang" to start drama, but in my opinion, this ruined it.

Anyways, this drama is utterly nonsense. You just do not go to your cheating ex for dating advice. Last four episodes (11-14) were filler episodes. Nothing happened except penguin couple.

The problem is with his character consistency. You said he got along with the system. Did he? He blatantly ignored his concubines. He did not even change after one of concubines suicide.
You said he was filial. Did he? Yeah, on surface. When time was time accept new concubine he accepted them, because it was costless for him, he will just ignore them later. When he was asked to bear more children, when he was asked to give more effort for concubines he ignored his mother. He commits as little effort he can just to stop nagging of his mother, Can you say that filial duty is very important to him? I am not sure.
Let's say he committed these on surface just because the love was very important for him. It was? In his 40 years of living he had zero effort to build relationship with anyone. He never tried to find concubine for his liking. Why?
This drama depicts him as pure innocent lone wolf who awaits love of his life. And our FL shows up and she wakes up him. Is this romantic arc suitable for a mature drama?
The writers were greedy and wanted to show both pure romance and cruelty of concubine system. From pure romance aspect you can critique this drama that there are too many women around him. For harem drama it lacked essence - when husband has divide bed between them. After ML married FL never slept with another, therefore it lacks depth for true concubine oriented drama.
Writer created mission impossible and somehow actors made it. These exceptional actors could shine this below average script and look as good. I really enjoyed this drama, but it is just because these actors.
Because drama is good does it absolve from critique? Absolutely not. Everyone is right when say he has too many concubine for such romantic arc. Also everyone is right that this drama is not mature enough to depict concubine system. Product is romantic idol like drama with concubine conflicts in between. Writers created popular product but they never really committed to any auditory. Therefore definitely this drama does not deserve better rating.

Later it gets better. Then villains' true colours are revealed and comparing to them CKY becomes likeable. It is so exciting to see then villain becomes scared of her.
Though at first I liked LBB character as funny harmless peck but his character becomes so disappointing, even more than main villain.

This drama is amazing. Excellent. I can say one of the best in the year already. Cast is superb. Writing is so interesting.

I could not agree more. Almost all cdramas has this illness.

You are right in details. Look at bigger picture. Can you agree that he was romantically and sexually responsible for 6 women? Or you say having concubine shed you away from any responsibility for her and they are just sex slaves with some status a.k.a. kept women?

I did not call them wives. In initial comment I said he married 6 women. I think that husband-concubine relationship is essentially marriage and there is no need to go into details how many women there legal wives and how many there concubines. Strictly speaking concubinage is not full marriage, but still it is some form of marriage. From my western point of view I would like to call that ML "married" concubine. To simplify ML was romantically and sexually responsible for 6 women. Just to say that he "took" concubines as he gave them a job with salary, does not give justice for these women.

Anyway thank you for the comments, I am glad to hear different opinions from cultures I am not familiar with.

What do you mean legally bound, at least one example? In western marriage legally bound means you cannot divorce unilaterally therefore you cannot do other things and then legally binding comes into place. If someone breaks contract other side can divorce unilaterally. But Muslims can divorce women unilaterally so legal bound has no meaning. Other legal part is inheritance, making medical decisions in case of unconsciousness etc. I suppose concubine has similar rights to western marriage from other part, just that she gets smaller part because there are other women.

I repeat that difference is superficial. If there are many women and one man, to make order within family society invented ranking system between women. Wife vs. concubine it is just ranking system. Let's say all higher rank women die off and man is left with just one concubine and grown up adult children. How they relationship are different from western marriage where man has grown up children from previous marriages?

Essentially husband-concubine relationship are same as western marriage plus ranking system.

What about children outside born from affair, not from concubine nor wife? So they have same status as illegitimate children of concubine? From outside looks funny calling concubines children illegitimate. Concubines purpose is to bear children. It is weird to have designed part of society whose purpose to do something illegitimate.

Well, can you explain how is different from having concubine from western marriage? In both scenarios they live together, are sexual partners, bear children, children have husbands family name, are within family budget, get part of inheritance if husband dies. The only thing I can think of is that divorce can be unilateral. Though Muslims can divorce wives unilaterally too.
I think wives/concubines difference is superficial as one is given respectful title, grand ceremony while other has no ceremony. It is done that way that society could justify discrimination, humiliation of concubines and lessen jealousy of main wife. Well one important moral point of this drama that discrimination of concubines is pointless and harmful to family itself.
P.S. In thailand dramas concubines are called small wife.

I did not say anything about previous episodes. Why would you assume that I did not liked them?

What spoiler? I did not say anything about any character. Spoiler that there will happen rape? Rape should never be a spoiler, it should be in the tag. Rape should never be some cheap plot element, a toy for writer to play with, just to make drama more emotional.
There are rape victims who are watching dramas too. It can be traumatising experience for them and some of them want to avoid such dramas. After reading comments in other dramas, I think it is just to never make rape as spoiler. Mydramalist usually adds tags of rape even if minors characters are raped.

I just watched. It is double worse. What is wrong with the writer's brain? From one point of view writer makes rape somehow justifiable as it happened to bad person and she did not had time to be rape victim and became assailant. Rape became just plot element like slap in the face. It is so cheap move and wrong in so many ways.

I thought it will be light romantic comedy type drama. Not a brothel drama with taste of rape. When they will get out of there or it will be till the end?

Potato potato. "Marriage" is western concept and it is closest translation. All these women call him as husband so I would say all were married, Concubine is title, not relationship status.

Concubines definetely are not just sexual partner. Their purpose is to bear children. And they have various legal rights. F.e. in case of death they get portion of inheretence.

Here romance is secondary plot. It is hard to imagine romance drama there ML married 6 times. Harem politics is the main plot.

After 11 ep. drama became dragging and boring. It became overdramatizing and lost its comedic touch. I wanted to see what happens when Dr. Cha wake up and remember nothing, how comedic clashes with Dr. Ko due their personalities. But seems writers will leave Dr. Cha die/wake up to final minutes of finale. Ech, so dissapointing., It was good till it lasted

ML married 6 women (almost 7) and all of them unwillingly. Yeah he married FL's sister for gratitude to grandfather, but still he did not wanted. I could understood if he had to marry one or two against his will to gain something for his family to depict cruelty of these times and add more drama. But all 6 of them is something beyond. When number is so high the blame is on guy not circumstances or clueless mother. He does not care any less whom he sleeps with but suppose he is all family man, family is most important to him, he wants to find one and true love, bla bla. I am not buying it.

ML and his mother both are horrible people. I cant digest how producers portray them as good people in the end. ML is excellent in his career does many good for the folk but at home he is something else. ML changes for the better under FL guide, but still he is still in state "it-is-all-circumstances-I-am-not-wrong". It suppose be a mature drama, but redemption arc is so superficial. ML did not even understood why or where he was wrong, so you cant ask him to be accountable for too many wives fiasco. Mother-in-law was so different from usual ones. Actually she did not much wrong to FL, there was no slaping or humiliation. There is was no anything at all apart some harsh words. Mothers redemption arc was "it-is-all-traditional-societal-rules- I-am-not-wrong". Though her style for managing house is vomiting at least. Nobody mentions that she could made so many different decisions "within these rules" and it was only hers choice/ambition to make worst and most horrific ones. But, hey, lets make them good people because they did not wronged our lovable FL. It is some bullsh*t.

Overall drama is good. Especially character development. But for a mature drama, morals of the story are so cringeworthy and childish that you could sum up as "do not hurt other people" and "do not be a bad person". Well, looking at the cast and rating I expected more. Though this dissonance is not so apparent for not susceptible eye so any can enjoy great work of actors.

First case was really really good. Amazing. But after 12 eps you should drop this. Second case shows how China police abuse human rights and international laws by using their weird own emotional logic. It just shows how China wants to become next USA with breaking international laws. Third and last case is totally weird and unrealistic. It is from Russian playbook, how they invade their neighbours in order to "protect Russian citizens".