My god - who wrote this - I am on episode 12 and it is taking everything in me to continue watching it. I like the ML and that is about it. The FL is one of the most annoying characters I have watched so far. She has a PHD in ornothology, but has chosen to be a beauty vlogger and runs around being this ditzy airhead who decides to get revenge on a guy who she believes stood her up in college. She basically stalks him and then tricks/manipulates him into pretending to be her boyfriend with with her family and friends. it's all just so absurd. add in the over-the-top baby voice (and I am not talking about pitch or tone here - I am talking affect) - its all just getting too painful to watch. Which is sad - this story had such great potential to be a sweet romantic drama and they just went with too many horrible tropes and cliches.
Well, the actor playing the ML disagrees with you. In interviews, he described JungHo as having ENTJ personality…
There is no way that character was an extrovert - he didn’t like being around people - which is a key component of being an extrovert (cause that is where they derive their energy from) might need to send the actor clearer Myers-Briggs definitions - lol! And I will have to edit the domineering part - I think it was more about him not being a more dominant person in the relationship - which, again, is attributed to being introverted and shy - if he was a true ENTJ - he would be leading that relationship and have clear goals - the character is too submissive to the FL to be an ENTJ - just sayin’
Just finished this up and all I can really say is - meh. Nothing real exciting about it. Didn’t feel any real chemistry between the two leads - whole things was just kind of blah.
Just completed and overall - I would say this is a good rom-com drama. I mostly enjoyed both the lead characters and the support cast was really good. Good chemistry with the whole team. Well done. I really appreciated the high emphasis on consent in this drama - it is a rarity in kdrama - so, kudos to writers and directors for this. I see a lot of bashing on the ML character for not being more 'domineering' or 'dominant' - as an introvert - I totally related to this character and thought the ML did a fantastic job. This character, from the beginning - is a shy, guilt-ridden, introvert (has been since they first met) - I was actually annoyed at many points by the FL character constantly pushing him to express himself (to only kneecap him when he finally does). As an introvert - she exhausted me much of time and I found him to be a saint and a portrait in patience. Her emotional rollercoaster of a ride would have killed most shy/introverts. She was either raging, crying, or drunk - while just spewing every thought that came into her head and never letting him respond. We were constantly reminded of her trauma with her father to the point of annoyance (yes, we get it, your dad died unjustly and you can't get over it), while she failed to barely recognize his family trauma/guilt, almost to the point of dismissal - so, I found their relationship very out-of-balance a lot of the time. That being said- when they did come together, their chemistry was very good. Overall - a good watch and would recommend
Overall a good romance - I liked that there was not extended separation tropes and that issues were quickly addressed when outsiders tried to split them up. ML was fantastic in this, FL - not so much. I found the way they wrote this character very odd - like, why are the only pictures she has on her desk, in her apartment and in her room at her parents - all just of her and non one else - its just weird. Didn't like that she always jumped to the wrong conclusion, then reacts badly - only to find she is wrong and has to apologize - it just annoying that this behavior never changes throughout the whole drama. Then there was the constant trope (not just for the FL) of the clumsy girl who keeps tripping and falling - within the first 5 episodes she has sprained/twisted her ankle three times tripping or falling of her high heels (another female character does this multiple time as well) I appreciated that the fact they they actually kissed and interacted with each other like normal adults - as opposed to how couples are normally portrayed - the horrible, stiff body, lips touch, but they dont move, girl looks terrified thing that normally happens. I also appreciated that gave her a normal adult voice and not the horrible, talk like a baby voice I look forward to seeing this ML in more romantic dramas - he is has got a great smoldering gaze to him that is fantastic. Could have cared less about the 2nd and 3rd romance stories - didn’t really feel like they added much to the drama Could have cared less about all the office drama Overall, a good light romantic drama to watch .
Just started this and hoping it gets better - but my god is the FL already annoying. Why do they insist on portraying female characters like - so stupid, never stops talking and that annoying baby voice - gah! And while she has lost her six senses - why she has no common sense or how to behave around anyone - is just absurd.
Just finished and just going to say “meh’ - not horrible, but not great either. Hated the set design and styling of this one and those horrible bangs on the ML - yuck! Liked the FL - too may side-stories to care about. Story itself its too bad - just didn’t feel it was executed all that great.
Overall, I found this mostly enjoyable. If they could have just focused on the main leads story and not all the other side-stories - it would have been better. Could have done without the first story arc - it was just stupid. Once you get into the second arc - it gets better. Could have TOTALLY done without the Lord Emperor/Niece story - was just so ridiculous - the sad little , pouting puppy following the guy around - this character was just pointless. Ending was dragged out and then their coming back together too short. More Mark Chao in long hair please!
Cannot emphasize enough how poorly written this is. I like most of the actors that are in it - but this is just poorly written and executed. It’s like they took every bad kdrama trope for a rom/com murder mystery and put them all together to make this. And, seriously can we get the ML pants that fit!
I enjoyed this drama in general but there was something missing .. I would say chemistry. Also the ML was a bit…
Yeah, seriously, no chemistry.. and its not so much the age thing as they are both adults, its the maturity level - its like having a teenager maturity (FL) and a adult (ML) dating - it just doesn’t work
I came here for Satoh (and I will finish it because of him)- but seriously, the FL - I just cant. The mousey young girl who falls for an older guy because he basically smiled at her and patted her on the head - decides to then go into a profession - not because she wants to help people, but because she wants to ‘get close to the guy’ - and then she is just dumb, not even very good at the job, totally unprofessional, apologizes every five minutes, is an insecure child and never shuts up! I just do not understand in any-way-shape or form what the attraction is here On the flip side - I also dont get her attraction to him either - he is not very nice to her, calls her an idiot most of the time and looks like he is just annoyed with her throughout most of the show. And most of the time the are together - she looks likes she is just terrified and ready to jump out of her skin - again, how is this an appealing relationship or story
I am not getting all the hate for this drama - I thought it was superbly done, paced well and all the actors did a really good job. The only character I could have done without was the assistant - but the rest of the characters were done very well. I do hope they do a season 2, but not holding my breath.
Seriously one of the most annoying FL characters - sticking her nose into everything, cant make up her mind, can’t be honest about how she feels, is kind of stupid most of the time, overly responsible for other peoples lives - dont really get the appeal of this character. ML - stiff acting, not much depth here. Found the other F4 members more appealing.
Well I guess you don’t have to watch it then. It’s her natural voice. It’s like saying why does this person…
Oh, its not a complaint about this particular character or actress - it is a general statement about women who speak with a baby voice - and yes, you can do something about it. - its called vocal training. This isn’t culturally specific - women all over the world do this. GIrls are taught at an early age that this is somehow attractive and how women should speak - so that’s what they train themselves to do. - so it can definitely be unlearned. She clearly can speak in a normal voice as she does it when she switches bodies.. And I would be just as annoyed by women who speak 8 octaves higher than normal (I just dont watch JDramas)
Just started and not sure I can take the pouty, ‘baby’ voice of the FL for 36 episodes - seriously, can we stop with making grown-ass women talk like children
Good story and ML was fantastic, as well as the Dad. It’s super-slow, so be prepared. A little tired of the girl from the poor family that they like to dress poorly/frumpily and the bad haircut
The FL is one of the most annoying characters I have watched so far.
She has a PHD in ornothology, but has chosen to be a beauty vlogger and runs around being this ditzy airhead who decides to get revenge on a guy who she believes stood her up in college. She basically stalks him and then tricks/manipulates him into pretending to be her boyfriend with with her family and friends. it's all just so absurd.
add in the over-the-top baby voice (and I am not talking about pitch or tone here - I am talking affect) - its all just getting too painful to watch. Which is sad - this story had such great potential to be a sweet romantic drama and they just went with too many horrible tropes and cliches.
I really appreciated the high emphasis on consent in this drama - it is a rarity in kdrama - so, kudos to writers and directors for this.
I see a lot of bashing on the ML character for not being more 'domineering' or 'dominant' - as an introvert - I totally related to this character and thought the ML did a fantastic job. This character, from the beginning - is a shy, guilt-ridden, introvert (has been since they first met) - I was actually annoyed at many points by the FL character constantly pushing him to express himself (to only kneecap him when he finally does). As an introvert - she exhausted me much of time and I found him to be a saint and a portrait in patience. Her emotional rollercoaster of a ride would have killed most shy/introverts. She was either raging, crying, or drunk - while just spewing every thought that came into her head and never letting him respond. We were constantly reminded of her trauma with her father to the point of annoyance (yes, we get it, your dad died unjustly and you can't get over it), while she failed to barely recognize his family trauma/guilt, almost to the point of dismissal - so, I found their relationship very out-of-balance a lot of the time.
That being said- when they did come together, their chemistry was very good.
Overall - a good watch and would recommend
I found the way they wrote this character very odd - like, why are the only pictures she has on her desk, in her apartment and in her room at her parents - all just of her and non one else - its just weird. Didn't like that she always jumped to the wrong conclusion, then reacts badly - only to find she is wrong and has to apologize - it just annoying that this behavior never changes throughout the whole drama. Then there was the constant trope (not just for the FL) of the clumsy girl who keeps tripping and falling - within the first 5 episodes she has sprained/twisted her ankle three times tripping or falling of her high heels (another female character does this multiple time as well)
I appreciated that the fact they they actually kissed and interacted with each other like normal adults - as opposed to how couples are normally portrayed - the horrible, stiff body, lips touch, but they dont move, girl looks terrified thing that normally happens.
I also appreciated that gave her a normal adult voice and not the horrible, talk like a baby voice
I look forward to seeing this ML in more romantic dramas - he is has got a great smoldering gaze to him that is fantastic.
Could have cared less about the 2nd and 3rd romance stories - didn’t really feel like they added much to the drama
Could have cared less about all the office drama
Overall, a good light romantic drama to watch .
And, seriously can we get the ML pants that fit!
On the flip side - I also dont get her attraction to him either - he is not very nice to her, calls her an idiot most of the time and looks like he is just annoyed with her throughout most of the show. And most of the time the are together - she looks likes she is just terrified and ready to jump out of her skin - again, how is this an appealing relationship or story
And I would be just as annoyed by women who speak 8 octaves higher than normal (I just dont watch JDramas)