ChineseDramaFan

I know right? The frenzy is just so incredible. I would like to think of myself as a level headed person most of the time, but with these two, my god, I feel like a crazy teenager. Not that I want to date any one of them, but I love to see them together, playing, laughing, bantering, the sort. They just make me smile. And they are so beautiful!

Right! That's the feelings I have with Wang Yibo, the badass type of attitude which I love, if it doesn't come to my own family members XD (that would have been a headache). Come to think of it, yes, you're quite right about the kpop groups. They are also very popular among the youngsters in the USA and I can see many similar behavior among the kids as those pop stars. No wonder a lot of very good looking boys (especially Asian) rather hang out with other boys than with girls (by boys, I mean Wang Yibo's age). :D

IKR. I was so naive on my first watch. I thought it was only soulmate kind of relationship. The more I watch, the more I find the overwhelming love from Lan Zhan towards Wei Ying, just that he expresses it so ever subtly, that careless as I'm, didn't think much of such hints in the beginning. Now, not only I know Lan Zhan's passionate love, I even have fantasies about the two actors, which obviously are untrue. Just that, my eyes and feelings are playing tricks with me, making me see things I want to see, like how they smile to each other during interviews or on stage etc. So far, I'm not into the bed scenes yet but can't guarantee after my 10th re-watch. XD.

It's very obvious that Xiao Zhan tries to stay clear of being seen as a couple with Wang Yibo. But not so with Wang Yibo - he couldn't care less how people want to think. Somehow, at times, I feel that he purposely stirs up something with Xiao Zhan to make the crowd go crazy.

The first time I watched this drama, I felt Lan Zhan liked Wei Ying because they shared the same idealogy. The second time, I felt Lan Zhan loved Wei Ying. The third time, I felt Lan Zhan was so in love with Wei Ying. The fourth time, I felt Lan Zhan was deeply and obsessively in love with Wei Ying, was jealous over Wei Ying's other relationships, wanted to be with Wei Ying 24/7. The fifth time I watched, apart from Lan Zhan's devotion, I even saw admiration and adoration from Wang Yibo towards Xiao Zhan all the time. Man! I don't know what else I'll see or feel after the 10th time of watching.

If you listen to the conversation carefully, WWX gives Jing Ling's name as Rulan which means "like an orchid". WWX claims orchid is the "gentleman of flowers" (obviously he's thinking about LZ). The "lan" he uses here is 兰 which has the same homophone as the blue 蓝 . That's why Jiang Cheng objects because he says why should Lan Ling Jing Sect and Gusu Lan Sect share the same name. Though they sound the same, they are not of the same characters. Again here, Wei Ying is playing with sounds and characters as they do a lot in Chinese, especially in this drama. I love all these homophones because they are so subtle and can easily be missed by non-Chinese speakers.

Oops! You've changed name. For a minute I thought I was replying to the wrong person.

Hahaha! Don't take it seriously. It's just a joke.

The way Lan is written in Chinese 蓝 in this case means blue. However, in Chinese, orchid is also called "lan", but written differently 兰.

I try to be a spectator but can't help to get into the fray. I don't see why it is such a big deal to argue over things like this, "wirefu", seriously? I love watching flying people, but I'm the only one in my family who does. All the others are telling me it's too fake and none watching any wuxia dramas. I don't see why we need to tell someone to enjoy watching something because we enjoy it ourselves. Likewise I don't like watching all those kungfu fighting and gun fighting dramas which my family enjoys. I tell them I can't watch men fight and kill just for the sake of it, and I find it stupid. They don't give a qualm about me. That's it. Why argue over nothing?

I feel like I'm, what they say in Chinese, "running into fire, entering into demon". XD.

Good idea (rewatching)! :D

That's right. The comments for dramas with highest viewership (in MDL) don't even come near to the amount of comments we have here. In actual fact, these comments may even help The Untamed in the search engines, if you know what I mean.

So, for each Cdrama, we should have 3 versions to select:
Click A for Newbies
Click B for Intermediates
Click C for Experts
or before getting into a drama, the screen should prompt these questions:
Are you a newbie in Cdrama? If yes, proceed, else retreat because you're going to hate the translation. Go to next question.
Are you an intermediate in Cdrama? if yes, proceed, else retreat because you may get frustrated with the translation. Go to next question.
Are you an expert in Cdrama? If yes, proceed, else retreat because you may get confused. Go back to question 1.
Hahahahahahaha!
Just pulling your leg.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I have a hard time convincing my own family to give it a go. They give me the same reasons you're saying here - too fake. For exactly the same reason, they've never watched any Chinese dramas. Nonetheless, glad you enjoy the story. Have a wonderful day/night!

Can you deal with Batman, Spiderman or all those Marvel heroes? Well, apply that concept here, perhaps you can enjoy the show. :)

For other dramas, we don't care so much about the translations as long as we know roughly what is going on. Not so for this drama -everything is so subtle, every move, every glance, every body language. Hence bad translation really destroys everything.

Yep, when Wei Ying calls shije, they translate it into Yanli. That's so annoying, because "shije" gives a warm, close and respectful feeling, and calling "Yanli" is like calling another person. Some of these Chinese terms are very difficult to translate into other languages. In this case, we all know shije means an older sister (or someone who has been in the learning environment longer) who has no blood relationship. I saw some translation says something like "older school sister" which may sound funny.

Chinese people treat everyone like one of their family members. So you'd see they address a stranger uncle or auntie, brother or sister. If these were translated, it may give the viewers a wrong assumption that these people are related. On the other hand, if they maintain the words da ge or shije, many viewers may not understand the meanings. So, either way, it's kind of hard.

I saw some of these subtitles for other dramas. With all due respect, some really make me laugh so hard. I understand your frustrations when reading these subtitles. Yes, many don't convey the exact meaning and the tone. Sometimes, when someone says something in a repentant manner, but after the translation, the words sound defiant, therefore, giving the viewers totally different experience towards the characters. Like what you correctly pointed out, "What am I to you" and "What do you take me for" are totally different in every sense.

He's so HOT! Such a badass! So different from Lan Zhan and yet he could portray him (LZ) so perfectly. Amazing boy. Yep, he's still a boy. :D Just love this boy.

His friends are his buddies. Too silly and funny to call it a bromance. :)