Is she as a lawyer required to report her client to the authorities if she knew he was going to violate the stay order? The father kept saying to pretend she didn't know, not that she can't say anything as the lawyer. From EB and HR's convo they only mention that she as his lawyer shouldn't betray confidence, not about the aspect of reporting legal authorities. Genuinely curious abou this.
I don't dislike the SML. Pretty ambivalent, but he's the one who told her to let the father take the child. Don't know.... Most likely this won't be addressed as the parents have worked it out between themselves and dropped the case. But I don't know if it's genuinely not a big deal that he advised her to turn a blind eye, or not.
Generally, if you rest, you let the dishes pile up and you don't clean it. Ha Ra saying 'Let's do it later' is…
She reacted that way after having spent years divorced due to the affair. He revealed that the affair was fake in a sudden manner, forcing his hand and shocking her. There was the passage of time. And perhaps a willingness to listen both due to that time, as well as the comfort that he didn't cheat on her.
We don't know what and how he tried to talk, but she herself said she was innately aware of some problems but thought a baby would be the fix. She didn't really think about what the problems were, it was the type where I guess she could feel it a little bit, but never wanted to address it openly. So she decides on her own without discussing that it's time to get pregnant and tells him as if it's decided.
It's not just the dishes, her behavior is seen with the movie as well. Where she decides to change the movie he is already watching, and she wasn't even planning on watching a movie. I believe it's also why they showed her behaving so unprofessionally in the third episode. While there is the hurt and emotional factor, part of it is her personality as well where she is just used to being the one who is listened to and the 'winner' Plus again, how she declared without discussion regarding getting pregnant...all show the dynamic.
And she herself acknowledged that she at that time wouldn't have listened objectively. She understands the issue *now*--including that she back then wouldn't have understood it--and acknowledges it was unequal.
I know many are angry about her ignoring or not considering his feelings during their marriage and always being…
Whatever past trauma he has is secondary to the problem with her changing to a horror film. He just wanted to relax and watch a movie, which he started to watch. She decided to watch with him and change the movie *he was already watching*
It wasn't movie night (which, going by what's shown would end up with her choosing what film to watch). It is indicative of more general behavior and she admitted to it, meaning it was just one example of many--and this particular one was more triggering to him.
honestly this is one of those dramas where i'd like for the leads to just move on and be with their new partners,…
But I prefer this to time travel series to fix relationships. Forcing them to deal with the fallout and consequences, and fix the relationship from there, than going back in time and fixing things.
"If he's now even playing daddy for that woman's girl... after telling everyone he doesn't want kids... that would…
1) He hasn't taken on the situation of the woman and child as of yet, and we don't know if he will. 2) Even if he does, he will be her step-father. The father had said his US job didn't matter to him as much, so it's likely he would settle things, come back to Korea, and she would still see her father. 3) 1 and 2 still aren't the point because the dynamic between the two would be different than it was with his marriage. (Just like the dynamic between him and Ha Ra if they go for it again would be different than the first time. So even if he were full time father, it would be different if the relationship with KSH is different and more equal.
(That being said, I don't think it would be wise of him to get into a relationship with KSH due to the circumstances and situation. On this, I would be on FL's side. It would be downright callous of him to start a romantic relationship with KSH because she was the one he faked an affair with. I just don't think it would be callous if it were simply a single mother he starts a relationship and becomes a step-dad. But with KSH, it would be a-hole behavior, imo. )
You ask why not just explain it to Ha Ra at that time, but it's not so easy and she herself admitted it. She would have fought him about it back then, but realizes more now. He admitted it only because he was forced to, he wasn't planning on admitting.
In some ways, it's probably the the years she spent thinking he cheated, and the nature of his admission that made her believe it and also understand it. (Maybe even relief that he didn't cheat.) If he had said it back then she may not have been as understanding and self-reflecting.
Agree. He knew he would have to raise the child probably more on his own since the FL didn't like even cleaning.…
Yup. And that's probably like the least and most basic of it. It just would have been a horrible situation overall.
And they showed the dynamics even in the fourth episode. She gave him everything to carry and he never really argued. She just has the domineering personality over him. Yeah, he was wrong for lying about an affair, but they showed her going crazy and being unethical in the third episode for a reason. It's very difficult and tiring to try to argue and bring it up with her, and his personality also is one who would try to avoid it.
This is not to say he is faultless. He obviously never shared his past trauma with the FL. But the marriage issues aren't really related to his trauma, with the exception of maybe horror movie and sleeping issues as you mention is the comment below, but the core issue was the domineering vs accepting roles.
He never says he doesn't or never wanted kids. Though he may have some past trauma, it's not the idea of children by itself which was the problem. It was the idea of children in this already exhausting marriage for him.
I truly hope they don't back off from this distinction. While he may have some past trauma, I feel like putting it all on past trauma is lazy and overwrites what Ha Ra also acknowledged. She wanted to bring a baby into a relationship in order to fix the relationship. She did feel inherently there were some problems, but never thought them through--and thought the solution was a child.
But she really did want that baby, and even now feels like perhaps she wouldn't have regretted a child even if they still ended in divorce.....
The breaking point for him was that he knew bringing in a child into this marriage was going to make him miserable. Marriage was already exhausting, and then bring in a baby.
The point is, even if he loves children, it was really a bad idea to bring a child into their already very suffocating…
So many people seem to miss this. He never says he doesn't or never wanted kids. Though he may have some past trauma, it's not the idea of children by itself which was the problem. It was the idea of children in this already exhausting marriage for him.
Hmm, I kinda felt uncomfortable watching episode 4. I'm not really liking any of the characters at the moment…
"If he's now even playing daddy for that woman's girl... after telling everyone he doesn't want kids... that would make me dislike him more"
He told people he didn't want kids in his particular situation, not that he was totally against having kids. He knew how tiring it is, and bringing that situation into the marriage which was already tiring him out is what was his breaking point. Pretty much in every sentence he talks about it, he mentions it's having kids in his marriage situation.
There is obviously some other history with him probably losing a young sibling or such, but he never really stated out right he himself didn't/never wanted kids. Only time it could be interpreted that way was when he asked KSH why not just live her life carefree, and when KSH hints to it when she says now that he's over it, to be father to her kid.
But he himself, his reason he gave was that idea of a baby in that stressful marriage was his breaking point.
I don't dislike the SML. Pretty ambivalent, but he's the one who told her to let the father take the child. Don't know.... Most likely this won't be addressed as the parents have worked it out between themselves and dropped the case. But I don't know if it's genuinely not a big deal that he advised her to turn a blind eye, or not.
We don't know what and how he tried to talk, but she herself said she was innately aware of some problems but thought a baby would be the fix. She didn't really think about what the problems were, it was the type where I guess she could feel it a little bit, but never wanted to address it openly. So she decides on her own without discussing that it's time to get pregnant and tells him as if it's decided.
It's not just the dishes, her behavior is seen with the movie as well. Where she decides to change the movie he is already watching, and she wasn't even planning on watching a movie. I believe it's also why they showed her behaving so unprofessionally in the third episode. While there is the hurt and emotional factor, part of it is her personality as well where she is just used to being the one who is listened to and the 'winner' Plus again, how she declared without discussion regarding getting pregnant...all show the dynamic.
And she herself acknowledged that she at that time wouldn't have listened objectively. She understands the issue *now*--including that she back then wouldn't have understood it--and acknowledges it was unequal.
It wasn't movie night (which, going by what's shown would end up with her choosing what film to watch). It is indicative of more general behavior and she admitted to it, meaning it was just one example of many--and this particular one was more triggering to him.
2) Even if he does, he will be her step-father. The father had said his US job didn't matter to him as much, so it's likely he would settle things, come back to Korea, and she would still see her father.
3) 1 and 2 still aren't the point because the dynamic between the two would be different than it was with his marriage. (Just like the dynamic between him and Ha Ra if they go for it again would be different than the first time. So even if he were full time father, it would be different if the relationship with KSH is different and more equal.
(That being said, I don't think it would be wise of him to get into a relationship with KSH due to the circumstances and situation. On this, I would be on FL's side. It would be downright callous of him to start a romantic relationship with KSH because she was the one he faked an affair with. I just don't think it would be callous if it were simply a single mother he starts a relationship and becomes a step-dad. But with KSH, it would be a-hole behavior, imo. )
You ask why not just explain it to Ha Ra at that time, but it's not so easy and she herself admitted it. She would have fought him about it back then, but realizes more now. He admitted it only because he was forced to, he wasn't planning on admitting.
In some ways, it's probably the the years she spent thinking he cheated, and the nature of his admission that made her believe it and also understand it. (Maybe even relief that he didn't cheat.) If he had said it back then she may not have been as understanding and self-reflecting.
And they showed the dynamics even in the fourth episode. She gave him everything to carry and he never really argued. She just has the domineering personality over him. Yeah, he was wrong for lying about an affair, but they showed her going crazy and being unethical in the third episode for a reason. It's very difficult and tiring to try to argue and bring it up with her, and his personality also is one who would try to avoid it.
This is not to say he is faultless. He obviously never shared his past trauma with the FL. But the marriage issues aren't really related to his trauma, with the exception of maybe horror movie and sleeping issues as you mention is the comment below, but the core issue was the domineering vs accepting roles.
I truly hope they don't back off from this distinction. While he may have some past trauma, I feel like putting it all on past trauma is lazy and overwrites what Ha Ra also acknowledged. She wanted to bring a baby into a relationship in order to fix the relationship. She did feel inherently there were some problems, but never thought them through--and thought the solution was a child.
But she really did want that baby, and even now feels like perhaps she wouldn't have regretted a child even if they still ended in divorce.....
The breaking point for him was that he knew bringing in a child into this marriage was going to make him miserable. Marriage was already exhausting, and then bring in a baby.
He told people he didn't want kids in his particular situation, not that he was totally against having kids. He knew how tiring it is, and bringing that situation into the marriage which was already tiring him out is what was his breaking point. Pretty much in every sentence he talks about it, he mentions it's having kids in his marriage situation.
There is obviously some other history with him probably losing a young sibling or such, but he never really stated out right he himself didn't/never wanted kids. Only time it could be interpreted that way was when he asked KSH why not just live her life carefree, and when KSH hints to it when she says now that he's over it, to be father to her kid.
But he himself, his reason he gave was that idea of a baby in that stressful marriage was his breaking point.