Lol, BoF scarred me so bad, (it was my 4th I spose?).... it turned me of k-dramas completely! xD
Oh no I'm not offended at all! Plus tbh your opinion is vastly more supported than those of us who love BoF against our will, reason and morals 🤣🤣 Agree on the younger people, I find it scary.
Lol, BoF scarred me so bad, (it was my 4th I spose?).... it turned me of k-dramas completely! xD
Boys Over Flowers is still a first Kdrama for a lot of people and winning new fans to this day. My podcast episode on BoF accounts for 70% of the total listens for all of our episodes. I'm boggled by that stat to be honest, it's crazy how beloved BoF was and is. It's still winning new fans and some of them are very young.
Mixed bag:Tu is brilliant, esp. because it's her first acting role. The way complex emotions play out in her face…
I find it fascinating how polarizing Bright is. In 2gether, the whole production wasn't great. I mean his hair changed length from scene to scene 😆. And the writing was terrible and made no sense. But whenever Bright was on screen I was hooked. He has that it factor that's independent of his actual acting talent.
I do want to give him credit for the scene in the arena with Gorya ready to shave her head. I think he did a great job there with portraying Thyme's conflicting emotions. He did fall short in the airport scene but it didn't register for me until I read everyone complaining about it and went back to rewatch the scene. Whatever he was serving there was still better than Dew.
I’m curious, what does everyone think of the acting? Let’s just talk about that of f4.
Mixed bag:
Tu is brilliant, esp. because it's her first acting role. The way complex emotions play out in her face and eyes is amazing. Plus she radiates strength in a very realistic way. She's not superhuman or cartoonishly powerful, just a very real young woman who is scared sometimes but still does the right thing.
Bright is fine. I don't really understand the hate he gets. Is he Shakespeare trained level? No but is he able to handle what's required of the role? Yes. Plus he's got that special something/charisma that's needed to sell you on this deeply problematic character.
Dew honestly is a weak spot for me. He's a newbie and unlike Tu not a naturally gifted actor. He wears beige and his performance is mostly beige though he did alright in the scene where he gets angry at Gorya for begging Mira to stay.
Win isn't selling me as a playboy yet. I really loved him in 2gether so maybe this is a hangover for me but he's too cute/soft for me to think of him as a predatory player. But I'm waiting to be won over later.
I love Nani, his part is small but he's got a nice, loose energy and pops on screen.
The supporting cast is excellent. Cindy is terrifying as a cold blooded businesswoman with contempt for her son. Maria has nice chemistry with Bright, their scenes feel very realistic in terms of an older sister looking out for her little brother.
Shoutout to Prim for already making a big impression in her brief scene with Win. She's channeling way more strength than previous versions of the character.
Another shoutout to June who is communicating volumes about Hana with very subtle facial expressions and body language. She's probably the strongest actress among the younger crowd.
Something I love about F4 Thailand is it's brought out my people, the ones who are addicted to the HYD franchise yet understand how deeply problematic and effed up it is and are willing to dive into desconstructing the narrative and examining it closely. I feel like the writers must also be fans because they so clearly understand the appeal of the original story and what they needed to change to make it relevant today. It's hella fun to see more and more people discovering the show and freaking out over how good it is.
Aww I loved that part! I thought it was a super sweet gesture and it felt natural to the characters.They seem…
Even though he shoved her (the asshole) the kiss still works for me because Gorya is the reason he's following Mira. She shoved him back and forced him out of his passivity to finally do something. And Gorya still cares for him and is happy he's going after what he wants. Also remember he did step in and keep her from being sexually assaulted and stopped her from shaving her own head so even tho that shove was terrible she still has reasons to crush on him.
"I think in Japanese ver, it's more about character development and Thai ver is more about unveiling the tough/bully…
"In the Japanese version, didn’t he even say something along the lines of “She deserves it” when someone brings up the almost-sexual assault?" << YES HE DID and it's unforgivable
Re: Dao Ming Si, it's interesting to think about the definition of toxicity because he was so jaw droppingly violent but not sadistic if that makes any sense. He had no self control and exploded way too often but he didn't seem to get off on it while Domyouji seemed to take pleasure in it.
Anyway, we're going to see Thyme's violent side again but I'm wondering when and how it will be handled. I hope we don't see him attempt to assault Gorya, that will kill the character for me and I really enjoy him right now.
I feel like this ver is more focused on the F4 friendship than other versions AND I LOVE IT. Maybe that has something…
"I think in Japanese ver, it's more about character development and Thai ver is more about unveiling the tough/bully facade and both work so well! " << This is so well put!
It also explains why I never warmed up the Domyoji because I was never convinced by his transformation. He's the only version of the character who was okay with the FL almost getting sexually assaulted and he never apologizes or expresses any remorse for his terrible behavior at the beginning. ANYWAY I needed to get that off my chest 😆
It's crazy that I'm so obsessed with every version of this story because in most of them I hate the ML to the end. The only one where I didn't was 2001 Meteor Garden because the ML does express remorse for his behavior and Jerry Yan is fantastic at bringing out the character's vulnerability. But I am absolutely loving what F4T is doing with Thyme, I am completely on board with watching this character change, grow and redeem himself.
So people (including me) have been talking about episode 3 feeling rushed so I watched 2005 HYD episode 3 to compare and you know what? It feels rushed there too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There's no reason for Tsukushi to go running to Domyoji that soon. I guess it will have to be one of those handwaving moments in a drama that has a lot of them.
my first time seeing this actor and the 4th adaption of this story i'm watching.. I do not see a problem so far…
The chemistry is excellent and Barbie Tsu as the female lead has a similar quality to Tu in that she's tough but real and vulnerable. I also really like Victor Chou as the Rui character
I do want to give him credit for the scene in the arena with Gorya ready to shave her head. I think he did a great job there with portraying Thyme's conflicting emotions. He did fall short in the airport scene but it didn't register for me until I read everyone complaining about it and went back to rewatch the scene. Whatever he was serving there was still better than Dew.
Tu is brilliant, esp. because it's her first acting role. The way complex emotions play out in her face and eyes is amazing. Plus she radiates strength in a very realistic way. She's not superhuman or cartoonishly powerful, just a very real young woman who is scared sometimes but still does the right thing.
Bright is fine. I don't really understand the hate he gets. Is he Shakespeare trained level? No but is he able to handle what's required of the role? Yes. Plus he's got that special something/charisma that's needed to sell you on this deeply problematic character.
Dew honestly is a weak spot for me. He's a newbie and unlike Tu not a naturally gifted actor. He wears beige and his performance is mostly beige though he did alright in the scene where he gets angry at Gorya for begging Mira to stay.
Win isn't selling me as a playboy yet. I really loved him in 2gether so maybe this is a hangover for me but he's too cute/soft for me to think of him as a predatory player. But I'm waiting to be won over later.
I love Nani, his part is small but he's got a nice, loose energy and pops on screen.
The supporting cast is excellent. Cindy is terrifying as a cold blooded businesswoman with contempt for her son. Maria has nice chemistry with Bright, their scenes feel very realistic in terms of an older sister looking out for her little brother.
Shoutout to Prim for already making a big impression in her brief scene with Win. She's channeling way more strength than previous versions of the character.
Another shoutout to June who is communicating volumes about Hana with very subtle facial expressions and body language. She's probably the strongest actress among the younger crowd.
Re: Dao Ming Si, it's interesting to think about the definition of toxicity because he was so jaw droppingly violent but not sadistic if that makes any sense. He had no self control and exploded way too often but he didn't seem to get off on it while Domyouji seemed to take pleasure in it.
Anyway, we're going to see Thyme's violent side again but I'm wondering when and how it will be handled. I hope we don't see him attempt to assault Gorya, that will kill the character for me and I really enjoy him right now.
It also explains why I never warmed up the Domyoji because I was never convinced by his transformation. He's the only version of the character who was okay with the FL almost getting sexually assaulted and he never apologizes or expresses any remorse for his terrible behavior at the beginning. ANYWAY I needed to get that off my chest 😆
It's crazy that I'm so obsessed with every version of this story because in most of them I hate the ML to the end. The only one where I didn't was 2001 Meteor Garden because the ML does express remorse for his behavior and Jerry Yan is fantastic at bringing out the character's vulnerability. But I am absolutely loving what F4T is doing with Thyme, I am completely on board with watching this character change, grow and redeem himself.