Does anyone know what the television ratings are for F4 Thailand so far in the countries where it's airing? On YouTube, the first episode is at 1.8 million views as of today.
Thyme: As someone who really hated all the other versions of the ml in the other one Thyme is quite refreshing…
MJ was the least developed character in other versions so having him become the Greek chorus to the action is pretty genius. He's the one who calls out a lot of the problematic aspects of the story like the kidnapping being literally illegal, hello.
Actually stylist is doing a very good job fits are significant and cool af
There's a difference between fashion and costuming though. This is a complaint I heard about The Devil Wears Prada, that actual magazine editors would not dress that way. But it was movie costuming for an audience that isn't sophisticated about fashion. Also, IMO the only one who's really dressed ridiculously is Thyme. The animal prints he wore in the first scene were meant to evoke a Roman Colosseum where innocent people are being torn apart so yes it's silly but it's also thematically appropriate.
Re: Cindy. Woman doesn't need a single line or a word to scare the shit out of you. Her glare, & her disapproving…
She's also the only version of the mother who actively pushes her son to rule the school and says if he can't rule the school he can't lead their business empire. And she refers to red cards in the interview in ep 1 which directly ties her to the bullying and abuse at the school. I was so taken with that because there's a capitalist critique in there along with Thyme's origin story. The cruelty needed to become rich and stay rich.
Thyme's style is supposed to look sort of ridiculous. That's been true in every version of HYD. The Korean version…
The animal print is there for a reason though. He's supposed to be a predator in the stadium when we're introduced to him. Yes it's over the top but I thought it worked really well. It's not fashionable but it's thematic.
It's on Dramacool but unfortunately the print is crappy. Also, someone edited together the kiss scenes from all the versions up to Boys Over Flowers: https://youtu.be/AcjcmnZhWtg
I was always a big fan of BOF and am really enjoying this version a lot.Thyme is really cute but can somebody…
Thyme's style is supposed to look sort of ridiculous. That's been true in every version of HYD. The Korean version is famous for the crazy hair and clothes.
Really? In the first version I watched, with ZERO hindsight into what was in store for us in the future episodes,…
I think it's very simple. Ren/Dew is incredibly handsome and so far he's been shot from Gorya's POV so for example when he saves her from SA and then the sprinklers go off and he's backlit standing in a spray of water literally glowing as he smiles at Gorya. No wonder people are shipping him! The visuals are shock and awe. Also, Thyme hasn't come into his own yet, first he's scary and then he's a goober. You're not supposed to be rooting for him at this point, that comes later as he evolves and grows as a person.
They didnt, theyre more of spectator and just having fun, cus they know they cant stop thyme anyway but MJ subtly…
I think they realize that Gorya isn't giving in and the longer it drags out the more it will hurt their reputations and turn the school against them. Another factor is it's clear Ren cares about her so the longer Thyme continues trying to enforce the red card, the bigger the rift between them. Also the more they see Gorya standing up to Thyme the more she earns their respect.
The F4 are so wealthy and famous that they can't be forced to wear uniforms to school unlike all the other students. This has been true of all the versions that are set in high school.
I love love love how the drama calls out slut shaming. Instead of having Gorya loudly proclaim her virginity like the FL's in all the other versions, she screams from the rooftop "So? What if I've been with 10 guys and gotten pregnant? It's my business. It's a modern age!" I was fist pumping through that scene. Also how Kavin and MJ told Thyme "You kidnapped her? That's illegal? You could go to jail?" Like the writers are fully aware of how problematic the story is and they can't take out all the problematic elements but they can call it out as part of the narrative, it's brilliant.
He became an ass like way later tho when ml and fl started to get together
Agree with all but Lei has an interesting character in 2001 MG. He does all the things you say but then he stops flirting with Shancai and becomes a loyal friend to her. It's nice, actually. Their relationship deepens in a way that makes sense.
i love the Taiwanese and the 2018 Chinese version. For this version, the first episode has a bit too much violence,…
I love the Taiwanese version too but I thought it was at least as violent as Thailand. There's the scene where Shancai is fighting off a ring of boys and gets bruised and punched before Daoming Si shows up to rescue her. And before that he assaults her in the stairwell 😲
Just remembered something hilarious: Gorya's boss at the flower shop makes fun of the F4's name by saying "There's a thin line between cool and cheesy." I loved that because there's no way you can have a remake and not call them the F4 but Flower Four is kind of ridiculous. It's a way to stay in line with the drama's iconic past but also poke fun at the things that didn't age well.
I've seen almost every version of Hana Yori Dango and I've even recorded a podcast episode on the Korean version so when I saw the trailer for this version I was really excited. And that excitement was justified because the first episode was great. Here's what I liked:
- The lead actors fit their roles really well. Tu was impressive as Gorya, she felt strong but vulnerable and real. Bright as Thyme is legit scary and yet you can see the character's vulnerability as well. I didn't like the actor who played Ren as much though but he's very nice to look at.
- The way social media was integrated into the story. I was especially chilled when Thyme says the F4 gives the students anonymous accounts in real life. So well done and a great way to update the story.
- The dark and gritty tone of the bullying scenes. I like that they leaned into how incredibly violent and frightening it is. The setting for the bullying was great too, it was like a Roman coliseum, especially in that first scene where Thyme is wearing a leopard print coat over a tiger striped shirt. That sense of danger makes Gorya's interactions with Thyme scarier than in almost any other version except maybe 2001 Meteor Garden. That raises the stakes. Is it messed up? Oh absolutely but the story is problematic at its core and I think the writers and director understand that and are leaning into it.
- I like that the boss at the female lead's job is a gay man and that her family is more supportive of her and not just using her to get rich like in other versions. The scene where her father gives her the shoes was heartfelt and touching.
It's too bad they're only releasing one episode a week but I'm excited to see where the story goes and how Gorya's relationships with Ren and Thyme evolve.
- The lead actors fit their roles really well. Tu was impressive as Gorya, she felt strong but vulnerable and real. Bright as Thyme is legit scary and yet you can see the character's vulnerability as well. I didn't like the actor who played Ren as much though but he's very nice to look at.
- The way social media was integrated into the story. I was especially chilled when Thyme says the F4 gives the students anonymous accounts in real life. So well done and a great way to update the story.
- The dark and gritty tone of the bullying scenes. I like that they leaned into how incredibly violent and frightening it is. The setting for the bullying was great too, it was like a Roman coliseum, especially in that first scene where Thyme is wearing a leopard print coat over a tiger striped shirt. That sense of danger makes Gorya's interactions with Thyme scarier than in almost any other version except maybe 2001 Meteor Garden. That raises the stakes. Is it messed up? Oh absolutely but the story is problematic at its core and I think the writers and director understand that and are leaning into it.
- I like that the boss at the female lead's job is a gay man and that her family is more supportive of her and not just using her to get rich like in other versions. The scene where her father gives her the shoes was heartfelt and touching.
It's too bad they're only releasing one episode a week but I'm excited to see where the story goes and how Gorya's relationships with Ren and Thyme evolve.