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Thanks for weighing in, I love your entire comment! It's interesting that Kavin can't directly pressure Gorya because Bright is protecting her but also because she's so strong he realizes his BS won't work on her. So he goes after the person he perceives as the weak link but whoops she's not about his BS either. I'm also dying to see how they handle his ex and whether or not he'll have a romance with Kaning (it's not present in all the versions)

So I wanna talk about Kavin as he's written and how Win is playing him because I'm loving what they're doing with the character. At first I wasn't won over because I didn't think Win was giving off player energy but that scene with Kaning and MJ made me realize that Kavin may be the scariest member of F4 because he's the most cold blooded and calculating. When Thyme found out you could feed a family on 500 baht he was shocked but not judgmental. Kavin weaponized the cost of that 4000 baht meal he tried to feed Kaning. He knows exactly how privileged he is and doesn't think twice about using it to bully a tiny schoolgirl (which is why it's such a thrilling moment when Kaning pushes back). Win is playing it really well. He's smooth and superficially pleasant but he's cold in the eyes and it feels like he is capable of some darksided shit. It's very good writing and performing.

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I know that antis are common in Kpop fandom and also with stars like Lee Min Ho but I've never experienced in real time like this before and it's wild. I don't understand why Bright triggers this kind of response.

I am loving the adaptation but I see the point you're making. I think there's a few things going on: one is that the show is only 16 episodes and there's a huge amount of plot from the original story to shove in there so there's not enough time for the kind of showing you're talking about. It also means that there are plot points that have to be hit regardless of whether they make sense (a lot of it makes no sense at all in the original manga and previous adaptations)

Another thing is that the original is so hugely problematic that there's no way to tell the story in the present day without addressing the issues and that will make it feel a little preachy. Specific to the 500 baht scene, I didn't see it as Gorya taking responsibility for reforming Thyme but as Thyme opening his eyes to how ordinary people live. He's the one who has to do the work.

The only bad thing with cutting the fiance short is that in most versions she's an entertaining character who could've been a great wife for the ML...but he had the unshakeable love for the FL. So I've always enjoyed her part of the story a lot.

I have a Twitter group chat going with the people I'll be recording a podcast episode with on F4T in February so they are getting a big dose but they aren't as obsessed as I am. In fact two of them are BoF haterz so I'm super curious about what they'll say about the new version.

And I'm switching between tabs as I do client work and also check the forum lmao. This whole thing has been crack for me.

He's for sure way less toxic. In other versions he either force kisses the FL or tries to sexually assault her when he's jealous. And in the manga and Taiwanese adaptation he slaps her across the face. F4T went hard on the bullying in the first two episodes but since then he's hasn't been abusive to the FL even though he admits he basically forced her into a date.

If you want to see Bright and Win in the drama that made them famous you could try 2gether while you wait. That's what I did when F4T had a two week break. It's nowhere near as good as F4T, in fact the writing and directing are just bad, but their chemistry is fire.

So you got me digging again and the ratings for most Thai dramas are much lower than F4 Thailand. The only drama I could find that is rated higher is Bad Buddy which is a popular BL drama. So my perception was totally off. This has been interesting!

Korean dramas are very deliberately made for export and have more viewers outside the country than within it, so your point about Jdramas makes a lot of sense.

😢 Feel sorry for both of them

I'm fascinated that Bright comes in for the hate but not Win. But then Bright was the bigger star coming out of 2gether so I guess that means more attention of all kinds. But yeah Bright is a super polarizing celeb. It reminds me a lot of Lee Min Ho, ironically.

You know what? I decided to look up ratings for other dramas I've seen (mostly Korean) and they are hovering about the same as this except for the really exceptional dramas like My Mister. So you're right, it's not that low. My perception was it was lower than it should be because there were so many negative comments here when the first two episodes aired.

Tu and Bright are so young and have to deal with a jaw dropping amount of online negativity. Tbh I'm in awe of their poise. Neither of them is publicly bothered about it which is impressive.

Unfortunately there's a significant number of people who dislike Bright because of 2gether and that seems to be driving down the rating which is really too bad because as you said I think the quality of this production is very high. Online fan communities are weird y'all.

Love all of this and specific to this: "And of course, as she was stripping off his clothes, she was stripping off his layers of deflection and arrogance as well. " His leopard skin jacket came off and he was wearing a floral shirt, love the metaphor there (aside from the sexiness of the scene 😆)

Another funny moment: when Glakao shouts YES SIR at his mother when she tells him to get the tea

The only part that didn't land for me was saying Ren is a good person. He's only nice to certain people but when he's angry he's capable of doing things like shoving Gorya. Plus he's going to kiss the girl his best friend is in love with and I already preemptively hate him for that