I'm sorry but did you really consider that CLOY has a happy ending ?
Yes. Given their circumstances, it would be forced if he stayed in SK since he was not the kind of person who would defect. And she wouldn't be safe in NK. So their meeting in Switzerland was already set up and made perfect sense.
It's organic (well set up and developed all the way to the happy ending), it isn't forced. Example of organic HEA: My ID Is Gangnam Beauty, CLOY. Example of forced HEA: Tale of the Nine Tailed (breaks its own rules to force it)
It isn't at the expense of characters who deserve their HEA too. See above. Gangnam/CLOY did it right, TOTNT and True Beauty did not though TB at least didn't kill anyone or break the universe.
Audience members will be satisfied if HEA fulfills first 2 requirements. Otherwise, expect tomatoes and eggs flying the drama's way.
love triangels in general are rarely done right and true beauty is one that did it bad
Very true. Love triangles are generally useless. The story is always set for X and Y to end up together which makes the presence of Z obsolete. And if Z somehow proves just as worthy or more, audience is unhappy with X and Y endgame so what was the point again?
In TB, drama came from FL's insecurities not from love triangle since there was never a proper triangle. ML has always been an obvious endgame. Every endgame trope rolled in one: met as children? check. Saved her life? Check. Fell in love with her when she looked her least pretty? Check. Steadfastly resisted prettier girls, lived in celibacy during 2 year separation? Check. Etc. One has to wonder why there was 2d ML since he didn't drive the story forward and didn't create an actual triangle but was just a really popular pretty face on the margin of the plot. I mena, we are all grateful for him cause he was a standout but storywise he was very extraneous.
yeahh i agree, but i feel really bad for her too. she struggled so much and after how bad she was bullied i definitely…
Problem is, the show gave plenty of evidence time and time again that both guys liked her the way she was, bare face and all. so her insecurity should have ended in the first half of the show instead of being stretched to the very last one. There was ZERO reason to doubt Soo-ho who proven liked her bare face defended her X times, and ZERO reason to doubt Seo Jun after the took on everyone who mocked her when he face was revealed. Yet because the drama essentially lost dramatic edge early on, they had to stretch her disbelief beyond the point of logic to keep things (faux) dramatic. Yuck.
If I were FL from True Beauty, I would totally understand if both boys dumped me. I was so annoyed by how wishy-washy she was, how much she was leading them on under pretense that she totally didn't believe either could be really interested in her. It was really painful to watch in regards to Han Seo Jun who really cared, spent 2 years respecting Soo-Ho's absence, got glimpse of hope when she agreed to go on dates with him only to get back with Soo-ho. Sorry but this was the worst FL in a love triangle since Bella from Twilight. Terrible writing and the actress's dumbstruck shtick got old after Episode 4 with 12 to go.
Most drama roles are not demanding. They are shallow cliches more or less. Not exactly HBO in its prime.
No excuse for him from you since you don't like his performance. Which is fine. For example, I think that LDW is unwatchable but many fans think he's acting God lol. Same here. To many fans, CEW is a good actor. I honestly don't think he's below drama standard. His acting is perfectly in line with what's expected of a drama actor: look pretty when crying on cue, clenching fists in anger, staring into space, looking infatuated. He nails that. Also, I checked ratings for various dramas and he has decent pull with the audience, better than fellow idols Rowoon and Siwan (who was up for the same role). His shows had better ratings. So obviously people think he's doing a good job, good enough to keep watching him.
Most drama roles are not demanding. They are shallow cliches more or less. Not exactly HBO in its prime.
if roles aren't demanding it really doesn't matter whether something is least demanding of undemanding or most demanding of undemanding. Also, he's 23 and that age doesn't give actors many options. Most actors of that age play teenagers or ML's son. Hardly rocket science. I'd take those over "wants to find love to end his cursed immortality" type of role aka quasi demanding role that is all about OTT melodrama.
Movies are where you stretch acting muscle. Dramas are what telenovelas are in South America. Escapism not high art.
many ppl love him bc of his looks and this is not sth new when you watch kdramas lol but he's an idol who just…
This is BS. First of all, dramas are no rocket science, sorry to be blunt but what passes as good acting in dramas is really just a few basics repeated to tedium: actor cries buckets even if a character would never given the period they lived in when stoicism and repressed emotions were mandatory for men (I'm looking at you hysterical crybabies' from Joseon and Goryeo sageuks); actor makes a loooong pause after being asked a question, stares into space and stares and stares and stares (this is supposed to be introspective), actor does comedy by appearing clueless and saying What? and Ah? every 3 min. And yes, actors who do this 1000 times over are praised as best talent ever a ha ha ha ha ha ha. So no, CEW is not bad or just a pretty face since he nails all 3 requirements of drama acting.
he is! I've never seen an actor so beautiful. And considering he's popular in Asia, speaks English really well, and Hollywood wants Asian markets, I'm surprised they hasn't come knocking yet. At least Netflix or Amazon collab with K partners if not a fully fledged American production.
"hip exorcist priest with bubbly personality and dark past raised in USA but watching K dramas so that he doesn't forget his language"
This is so out there but in a good way. I'm really hyped for this character. The drama synopsis itself sounds like Goblin knock off which means a risk it's another Tale of the None Tailed (hot mess). But this character synopsis elevates the whole thing. Too bad that ML is a generic hero trying to end his cursed immortal life (cry me a river) thanks to love of a good woman (eyeroll). I'd dump this trash and make it all about Hot As Hell Hip Exorcist Priest who kicks monster/demon butts and take names while being bubbly and adorable. Nice departure for CEW if he accepts the offer.
Tale of nine tailed is a mess we don't want that!! Haha let's forget about it
true though it isn't like Netflix never produced a fantasy mess. The Cursed, The Order are terrible, while I'm biased toward The Witcher, tribes of Europa and Winx due to being entertaining with notable eye candy in male department, those shows are pretty messy too. TOTNT was messy and boring with terrible SFX, neither thing unusual for Netflix's 5th-tier shows. Not that I want anything like TOTNT just saying it isn't below Netflix league considering what else they produce.
Extracurricular was very good, but why a saison 2?I'm more interested by "My name" made by the same director
yeah there was nothing about Extracurricular ending that screamed S2. In fact, the story was finished. It was cautionary tale that ended with The moral of the story is_____.
This is Netflix, they have to appeal not only kdramas fans abut also fans of your usual tv show. They already…
"The romance that was based on conversation and feelings rather than attraction, but I am sorry to tell you, even that becomes boring after a while. The tiger mom cliche, the misunderstandings, the "I know from our childhood".... All of that becomes boring after a while."
Yep. At first, chaste-ness of K dramas was refreshing. The fish kiss, the sleeping in the same bed fully clothed and not having sex or even making out, the fretting whether to hold hands or not. But after awhile it became ridiculous. 16 years old contemplating to hold hands? fine I guess, little unrealistic but whatever. 30somethings? get the heck out of here!
Point being, cliches repeated too many times become as stale as any, whether they are K drama cliches or Hollywood cliches. So in this example with chasteness, I started to imagine K Bridgerton. So if Netflix steams up the content, more power to them. So many K actors are fabulously ripped why keep all that goodness hidden? Not to mention many K movies are really raunchy so that's up Netflix alley.
Hype for genre offerings! Hopefully all are binge (full season drop) and not staggered weekly releases. DP, All of Us Are Dead, Hellbound, Kingdom: Warrior of Ashin, Squid Game and The Silent Sea are a must for me.
I don't think it's an overstatement. It is very obvious that the "finale" tried to cover up that their star wasn't…
Your English is fine. I've heard that K drama episodes are filmed weekly so that writers could adapt writing to audience demands. Which explains why so many of them start as one thing but end up as something completely different and worse. This drama started as X Files and ended as Twilight.
I get where you're coming from with the leads. For me, it felt less like asshole characters and more like bad…
The thing about Rang that I found unforgivable is that he had a great arc that should have culminated with his becoming a better Hyung to Blacky/Soo-ho than Yawn was to him. However, they gave the family arc to Shin-Joo and Yu Ri, who, as delightful as they were, never added up to anything. I was never under impression that either of these side characters needed the family closure more than Rang. I never understood why Rang couldn't make family with Yu Ri but it had to be a side of side subplots with a side of side male characters. It's weird that they tried to sabotage such a strong character at every turn yet he succeeded in spite of those efforts. Oh well.
It's organic (well set up and developed all the way to the happy ending), it isn't forced. Example of organic HEA: My ID Is Gangnam Beauty, CLOY. Example of forced HEA: Tale of the Nine Tailed (breaks its own rules to force it)
It isn't at the expense of characters who deserve their HEA too. See above. Gangnam/CLOY did it right, TOTNT and True Beauty did not though TB at least didn't kill anyone or break the universe.
Audience members will be satisfied if HEA fulfills first 2 requirements. Otherwise, expect tomatoes and eggs flying the drama's way.
In TB, drama came from FL's insecurities not from love triangle since there was never a proper triangle. ML has always been an obvious endgame. Every endgame trope rolled in one: met as children? check. Saved her life? Check. Fell in love with her when she looked her least pretty? Check. Steadfastly resisted prettier girls, lived in celibacy during 2 year separation? Check. Etc. One has to wonder why there was 2d ML since he didn't drive the story forward and didn't create an actual triangle but was just a really popular pretty face on the margin of the plot. I mena, we are all grateful for him cause he was a standout but storywise he was very extraneous.
Movies are where you stretch acting muscle. Dramas are what telenovelas are in South America. Escapism not high art.
This is so out there but in a good way. I'm really hyped for this character. The drama synopsis itself sounds like Goblin knock off which means a risk it's another Tale of the None Tailed (hot mess). But this character synopsis elevates the whole thing. Too bad that ML is a generic hero trying to end his cursed immortal life (cry me a river) thanks to love of a good woman (eyeroll). I'd dump this trash and make it all about Hot As Hell Hip Exorcist Priest who kicks monster/demon butts and take names while being bubbly and adorable. Nice departure for CEW if he accepts the offer.
Yep. At first, chaste-ness of K dramas was refreshing. The fish kiss, the sleeping in the same bed fully clothed and not having sex or even making out, the fretting whether to hold hands or not. But after awhile it became ridiculous. 16 years old contemplating to hold hands? fine I guess, little unrealistic but whatever. 30somethings? get the heck out of here!
Point being, cliches repeated too many times become as stale as any, whether they are K drama cliches or Hollywood cliches. So in this example with chasteness, I started to imagine K Bridgerton. So if Netflix steams up the content, more power to them. So many K actors are fabulously ripped why keep all that goodness hidden? Not to mention many K movies are really raunchy so that's up Netflix alley.