A rant...And sorry but I won't be nice in my words. I'm pissed off. And maybe this will be inappropriate, but it's too late lol If you really care about SA victims, why are you more focused on Johnny and your need for "consequences" (="revenge") than Akin's emotions and trauma in the series ? In fact, you don't really care about victims but more about your satisfaction on seeing someone being punished. I dare say your "entertainment". Johnny can go to hell and I'll gladly skip his scenes and forget him. I'll gladly skip his "redemption" arc too. I don't care. I don't really expect that much, since the original source material was not a model in terms of portrayal of "consent". You have to be really naive to expect something else (and what are you doing here then ?). I was anyways planning to skip that series at the beginning. Not really my cup of tea. And I was surprised. Caught. I was pulled in by this series. Because of only one character. Akin. And I'm just sooooo grateful there is such a character in a series (and such an actor able to portray so much emotions). He's the most precious. And he's the VOICE I'm choosing. Not yours. Because who are you to speak for others ? Who are you to speak about the trauma of others ? Don't speak in my name. So here is my "humble" point of view : - A "little" progress is better than no progress at all. - "Antagonizing" people won't change their views too. If you really think you can change attitudes and mentalities (like the victim blaming, the stereotypes, the "culture") by arguing like that....All I'm saying is : good luck !
and that was how the SA was brushed under the rug as usual..... with a pat on the wrist. what a let down!I get…
I don't think you can say "and that was how the SA was brushed under the rug as usual..... with a pat on the wrist. " This is a little reductive;
What do you make of Akin breaking down ? Of Jin apologizing again and again ? Jin saying it's not Akin fault ?
Sure, maybe it doesn't "fit" your "perfect" view on the "subject". But you are basically not taking into account the emotions of Akin. You are in fact basically also brushing under the rug the emotions that Akin has just shown in episode 7 (and before).
I'll never understand though people expecting something else, when you know that the original source material is, in fact, already quite "problematic". Even if the series seems to have tone it down a lot and is having its own point of view. It's like expecting flowers and nice things from a dark and twisted serial-killer original story...
I'm afraid to watch the episode now...and maybe I'll wait for the next episode before. I just hope "that" scene is not too graphic and not too long...I'll skip it...can someone tell me when it starts and when it ends ? And seeing the comments below, at least this seems like a series which doesn't show "this" as something "sexy", like so many shows...a sa victim not talking and being ashamed ? the reaction of your close ones ? the fact you still need to work with your abuser ? this looks like uncomfortably realistic.
this series is growing on me… but damn, the camera work - or lack thereof - is really a letdown. i’m not asking…
The camera work feels different for sure in this one. I'm not an expert to say if it's good or bad but I find this quite refreshing. So I really like it.
So at last I've just finished this. I've mixed feelings about the series. The plot was too caricatural for me and sometimes does not make sense, especially towards the end, regarding the actions of Jaemin for exemple. Very dramatic, but for what purpose ? The acting also feels sometimes "emotionless or exaggerated. Something is lacking. However I really like the OST and how they use it in the scenes.
I was laughing a lot in this episode. I cannot take this seriously. So dramatic. The CGI. The cheesy lines. The long scenes about the abs... But fun. Nakan is interesting.
Still a nice series. But some mixed feelings now : 1) I feel like that since episode 3, we've been losing track of what makes this series shine, that is to say the dynamics between Thame and Po's characters (the chemistry is great !). Po's character seems also less "present" in those last episodes, which is a pity because he's such an interesting character, with his own conflicts too. I really hope we'll have more episodes which focus more on his character too. 2) The dynamics in the group could have been very interesting too but I feel like this is not the case, because of two main problems : - I have a problem with the way the other members of the group usually say their lines in the series, like they are reciting their lines, mostly. It feels monotonous. The acting is lacking. They are not "bad" but you can see the difference with the side characters for exemple... - Another problem is that, since there is a real "idol" group behind, they won't make something in the plot which will "tarnish" their image. Unfortunately, I think it'd have been more interesting for the plot if one of the member of the group was not presented as "good" as he is. After all this is idol business, and this is a highly competitive environment. It seems highly improbable that one of them does not want at least to have a "solo" career...You have surely ambitious people. In idol industry (and artists) in general, it's a huge battle of egos...
If you really care about SA victims, why are you more focused on Johnny and your need for "consequences" (="revenge") than Akin's emotions and trauma in the series ?
In fact, you don't really care about victims but more about your satisfaction on seeing someone being punished. I dare say your "entertainment". Johnny can go to hell and I'll gladly skip his scenes and forget him. I'll gladly skip his "redemption" arc too. I don't care. I don't really expect that much, since the original source material was not a model in terms of portrayal of "consent". You have to be really naive to expect something else (and what are you doing here then ?). I was anyways planning to skip that series at the beginning. Not really my cup of tea. And I was surprised. Caught. I was pulled in by this series. Because of only one character. Akin.
And I'm just sooooo grateful there is such a character in a series (and such an actor able to portray so much emotions). He's the most precious. And he's the VOICE I'm choosing. Not yours. Because who are you to speak for others ? Who are you to speak about the trauma of others ? Don't speak in my name.
So here is my "humble" point of view :
- A "little" progress is better than no progress at all.
- "Antagonizing" people won't change their views too. If you really think you can change attitudes and mentalities (like the victim blaming, the stereotypes, the "culture") by arguing like that....All I'm saying is : good luck !
What do you make of Akin breaking down ? Of Jin apologizing again and again ? Jin saying it's not Akin fault ?
Sure, maybe it doesn't "fit" your "perfect" view on the "subject". But you are basically not taking into account the emotions of Akin. You are in fact basically also brushing under the rug the emotions that Akin has just shown in episode 7 (and before).
Which is quite ironic too.
this looks like uncomfortably realistic.
1) I feel like that since episode 3, we've been losing track of what makes this series shine, that is to say the dynamics between Thame and Po's characters (the chemistry is great !). Po's character seems also less "present" in those last episodes, which is a pity because he's such an interesting character, with his own conflicts too. I really hope we'll have more episodes which focus more on his character too.
2) The dynamics in the group could have been very interesting too but I feel like this is not the case, because of two main problems :
- I have a problem with the way the other members of the group usually say their lines in the series, like they are reciting their lines, mostly. It feels monotonous. The acting is lacking. They are not "bad" but you can see the difference with the side characters for exemple...
- Another problem is that, since there is a real "idol" group behind, they won't make something in the plot which will "tarnish" their image. Unfortunately, I think it'd have been more interesting for the plot if one of the member of the group was not presented as "good" as he is. After all this is idol business, and this is a highly competitive environment. It seems highly improbable that one of them does not want at least to have a "solo" career...You have surely ambitious people. In idol industry (and artists) in general, it's a huge battle of egos...