criticism is negative, it;s about pointing out the flaws. saying something positive is complimenting. Giving criticism…
I disagree. According to Cambridge dictionary : "the act of giving your opinion or judgment about the good or bad qualities of something or someone, especially books, films, etc." Criticism does also have a meaning which implies the two aspects (not necessarily only the bad aspect). People usually understands criticism as something always negative. But it is not the case if you look more into it, especially when you want to do a "constructive" criticism.
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lol I think so too.
PS : It's like you have two camps : - The disappointed fans : BURN the director, the cast, the scriptwriter ! BURN the show ! - The adoring fans : HATERS go away ! You are MEAN ! If you don't want to take sides, you're seen as a betrayer on both sides *_*
Ok, I'm exaggerating a little bit because I'm sure there are some users who seem more casual and more serene too here.
About criticism....(also, this is a general point of view, I'm not personally "attacking" some of you here...). Criticism is usually both negative and positive too. It is balanced. I think there is definitely a problem if the criticism is ONLY negative or ONLY positive. Because otherwise how can you improve yourself if you only point out the negative (it will dishearten or discourage those who are criticized) or only point out the positive (they will rest on these laurels) ?
I'm sorry but I don't think you're in the right place for this message. You can't accuse the people who comment…
Really I do think you've taken my comment in the wrong way....
I was just expressing a fear ("I'm just hoping etc.") I have and I was wondering if we should not also reflect on ourselves as "fans" OR "viewers" OR "spectators" ?
Also I do think that the line can be easily crossed, even "here" : the negative criticism can easily turn into something ugly, just like the mindless adoration (positive criticism) can easily turn into something ugly....
Why ?
Because when people are too emotional (and there are emotional comments here, I disagree with you concerning this point), it can easily turn into something else than a healthy discussion.
Also the only thing I adress in this comment towards some of the people here is this : "But the series is not THAT BAD though." It is not a masterpiece, it is not great but it is not also the worst BL series I've ever seen.
I'm just stating that (maybe) we should not be so monolithic in our comments. In a way, this kind of thinking is similar to a "fan" frame of mind (as "disappointed" fans, venting their frustration here or as "adoring" fans praising their idols and easily sensitive when someone dares to have a slightly different opinion). I disagree with you also on this point.
I heard some people had been doing that on twitter? I hope not because sending actual hate to a person is definitely…
Yes, unfortunately, it is ALWAYS like that. -sigh- I hope some people learn the difference between valid, mature and respectful criticism and retaliation (because you "spoiled" their fun or because it doesn't go the way you want).
I said I could write a better story. Well ... First of all, don't make everyone gay. This is not realistic. Two…
It would have been nice if they have written differently and more coherently the script, for sure. But something bothers me in your comment. For instance : "First of all, don't make everyone gay. This is not realistic. "
But the creator or his crew are not exactly our "servants".
"I said I could write a better story"
Why are we belittling the creator to make ourselves noticed ?
I really think we should, as viewers, as fans, reflect on ourselves too. Those shows are problematic (and you've appropriately shown it here and in previous comments). But viewers can be problematic too.
Are you a toxic viewer or fan ? Here some tips.... 1. Possessiveness : "the toxic fans feel like they own the content they're fans of, that it belongs to them, and only to them". 2. Entitlement : "Since in their mind, they [the fans] have a sense of ownership of the thing they are fans of, the creators of that thing must do whatever they the fans demand." 3. The feeling of superiority : "Toxic fans feel superior to other fans who are less intense/obsessive, who are often labeled 'casuals'."
What is a non-toxic fan or viewer ? 1. "A good fan will respect, admire, and praise something or someone, without attempting to control the persons behind the thing they like." 2. "A good fan, on the other hand, may request something or think 'it would be nice if they went in this direction', but accepts that sometimes creators won't do what they want." 3. "Healthy fans accept non-fans and don't mind the fact that different people watch or like different things".
OK, OK, people, I agree the two last episodes were not stellar and I am quite disappointed too. I was also really annoyed yesterday. But the series is not THAT BAD though. I'm just hoping it won't turn into a huge witch hunt against the crew on Internet and social media...Please, no toxicity.... Why does it turn always like this ? When something doesn't go the way you want, you have to adopt the mob mentality and bully the artists or the creators...to MAKE THEM PAY.... They are not your servants, people.... THIS IS ALSO PROBLEMATIC The wrongdoing is not only from the crew side but from the audience (or a part of it) side too....Some of them are damn too controlling... Again I'm not saying the series is perfect...
Director's tweet today"My Twitter under fire | I never run away, I read all feedback ,both compliments and blame…
* Facepalming * Knowing twitter stans, the criticism must have been mature, well-balanced....Gosh...I didn't like the two last episodes but I like the previous episodes...I just hope he won't have death threats....
I agree. Because Bright has previous experience already, not many people talked about his acting, but I feel the…
I'm wondering the same thing lol If the last 3 episodes were filmed before the previous ones....that would explain the awkwardness now lol The hair ! That's it ! A motivation to watch again the series lol
I like the storyline of Man and Type, it's kinda realistic. Man represents the huge percentage of this generation,…
I'm not a fan of this couple though...Man basically asking Type to be his boyfriend in front of everyone...Let's hope Type's working place is comprehensive and quite accepting...Man is selfish. He doesn't deserve Type. In fact, I was really mad at him when he speaks so "freely" in front of Type's colleagues... Unless I've fastforwarded too much the episode and I've missed something lol
I don't think they feel awkward playing as gay characters, that would be visible in the start of the series and…
Yes, perhaps it is because of that. Because I do think there was some kind of chemistry at the beginning. So I don't know why it is like that now -sigh- unless this was filmed before all the previous episodes...
Since ep.11, it seems to me the series has completely changed...and the flaws are becoming more visible and damage the whole feeling of 2gether.
I really like the series up until ep. 10 (more or less). But now, it feels really flat. Such a shame. I think they should have ended the series when Tine agreed to be Sarawat's boyfriend.
One day, I hope we'll have a series more polished from the beginning to the end ?
"the act of giving your opinion or judgment about the good or bad qualities of something or someone, especially books, films, etc."
Criticism does also have a meaning which implies the two aspects (not necessarily only the bad aspect). People usually understands criticism as something always negative. But it is not the case if you look more into it, especially when you want to do a "constructive" criticism.
PS : It's like you have two camps :
- The disappointed fans : BURN the director, the cast, the scriptwriter ! BURN the show !
- The adoring fans : HATERS go away ! You are MEAN !
If you don't want to take sides, you're seen as a betrayer on both sides *_*
Ok, I'm exaggerating a little bit because I'm sure there are some users who seem more casual and more serene too here.
I was just expressing a fear ("I'm just hoping etc.") I have and I was wondering if we should not also reflect on ourselves as "fans" OR "viewers" OR "spectators" ?
Also I do think that the line can be easily crossed, even "here" : the negative criticism can easily turn into something ugly, just like the mindless adoration (positive criticism) can easily turn into something ugly....
Why ?
Because when people are too emotional (and there are emotional comments here, I disagree with you concerning this point), it can easily turn into something else than a healthy discussion.
Also the only thing I adress in this comment towards some of the people here is this : "But the series is not THAT BAD though." It is not a masterpiece, it is not great but it is not also the worst BL series I've ever seen.
I'm just stating that (maybe) we should not be so monolithic in our comments. In a way, this kind of thinking is similar to a "fan" frame of mind (as "disappointed" fans, venting their frustration here or as "adoring" fans praising their idols and easily sensitive when someone dares to have a slightly different opinion). I disagree with you also on this point.
PS (edit) : Also, seeing how many people like your comment...I think I hit a nerve lol... It is quite telling...
But the creator or his crew are not exactly our "servants".
"I said I could write a better story"
Why are we belittling the creator to make ourselves noticed ?
I really think we should, as viewers, as fans, reflect on ourselves too.
Those shows are problematic (and you've appropriately shown it here and in previous comments). But viewers can be problematic too.
1. Possessiveness : "the toxic fans feel like they own the content they're fans of, that it belongs to them, and only to them".
2. Entitlement : "Since in their mind, they [the fans] have a sense of ownership of the thing they are fans of, the creators of that thing must do whatever they the fans demand."
3. The feeling of superiority : "Toxic fans feel superior to other fans who are less intense/obsessive, who are often labeled 'casuals'."
What is a non-toxic fan or viewer ?
1. "A good fan will respect, admire, and praise something or someone, without attempting to control the persons behind the thing they like."
2. "A good fan, on the other hand, may request something or think 'it would be nice if they went in this direction', but accepts that sometimes creators won't do what they want."
3. "Healthy fans accept non-fans and don't mind the fact that different people watch or like different things".
Source : Rachael Lefler : https://reelrundown.com/misc/5-Factors-that-Can-Cause-Toxic-Fandom-to-Arise
Why does it turn always like this ?
When something doesn't go the way you want, you have to adopt the mob mentality and bully the artists or the creators...to MAKE THEM PAY....
They are not your servants, people....
THIS IS ALSO PROBLEMATIC
The wrongdoing is not only from the crew side but from the audience (or a part of it) side too....Some of them are damn too controlling...
Again I'm not saying the series is perfect...
In fact, I was really mad at him when he speaks so "freely" in front of Type's colleagues...
Unless I've fastforwarded too much the episode and I've missed something lol
So I don't know why it is like that now -sigh- unless this was filmed before all the previous episodes...
I really like the series up until ep. 10 (more or less). But now, it feels really flat. Such a shame. I think they should have ended the series when Tine agreed to be Sarawat's boyfriend.
One day, I hope we'll have a series more polished from the beginning to the end ?